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	<title>Comments on: Presidential poll of the week:  It&#8217;s Lee v. Lee</title>
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		<title>By: Breaktrack</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/08/presidential-poll-of-the-week-its-lee-v-lee/#comment-117099</link>
		<dc:creator>Breaktrack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does height have to do with athleticism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does height have to do with athleticism?</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/08/presidential-poll-of-the-week-its-lee-v-lee/#comment-116972</link>
		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and his (Lee Hoi Chang's) sons are short.  They're not atheletic

judging by a photo, they were less than 5'4''.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and his (Lee Hoi Chang&#8217;s) sons are short.  They&#8217;re not atheletic</p>
<p>judging by a photo, they were less than 5&#8242;4&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/08/presidential-poll-of-the-week-its-lee-v-lee/#comment-116971</link>
		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Jackson, just because a court said Kim Dae Up lied and served time doesn't mean Lee Hoi Chang's sons did not do wrong.

None of them went to goon dae.  

Both of them claimed a BMI of less than 17.

Both of them managed to pull off prestigious degrees and reproduce successfully biologically with that frame.

he's a fucker and so are his sons.  His father, who is deceased is a known Japanese collaborator.

I don't have much of a right to condemn him, either.  I highly suspect mine were also collaborators, and 3/5 of my father's side went to goon dae.  0/3 of my mother's side went to goon dae.  In all cases, money was involved.

hidden secret in South Korea.  Well to do, do not go to goon dae. 

My father was called an idiot for having chosen to serve in goon dae when he clearly had the opportunity not to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Jackson, just because a court said Kim Dae Up lied and served time doesn&#8217;t mean Lee Hoi Chang&#8217;s sons did not do wrong.</p>
<p>None of them went to goon dae.  </p>
<p>Both of them claimed a BMI of less than 17.</p>
<p>Both of them managed to pull off prestigious degrees and reproduce successfully biologically with that frame.</p>
<p>he&#8217;s a fucker and so are his sons.  His father, who is deceased is a known Japanese collaborator.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have much of a right to condemn him, either.  I highly suspect mine were also collaborators, and 3/5 of my father&#8217;s side went to goon dae.  0/3 of my mother&#8217;s side went to goon dae.  In all cases, money was involved.</p>
<p>hidden secret in South Korea.  Well to do, do not go to goon dae. </p>
<p>My father was called an idiot for having chosen to serve in goon dae when he clearly had the opportunity not to.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/08/presidential-poll-of-the-week-its-lee-v-lee/#comment-116962</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11  OK, I see where you are coming from now.  

McCain probably would have been the early front runner had it not been for 9-11 raising Giuliani's status.  I have seen a couple of recent polls that have him passing Thompson to get back into second place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11  OK, I see where you are coming from now.  </p>
<p>McCain probably would have been the early front runner had it not been for 9-11 raising Giuliani&#8217;s status.  I have seen a couple of recent polls that have him passing Thompson to get back into second place.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Like Brendon Carr described, it seems McCain “stood behind winner George Bush on the principle that the party primary is a done deal and [the GOP] should unite behind the party’s candidate.”

But this did not really “cement his stature as leader and make him the odds-on favorite for the following open election.” So my question was does the United States really work this way.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

McCain is really a special case. He's volatile and prone to outbursts. His campaign is poorly run and has squandered his positioning. And he's already 71, on the edge of being too old to be President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Like Brendon Carr described, it seems McCain “stood behind winner George Bush on the principle that the party primary is a done deal and [the GOP] should unite behind the party’s candidate.”</p>
<p>But this did not really “cement his stature as leader and make him the odds-on favorite for the following open election.” So my question was does the United States really work this way.</p></blockquote>
<p>McCain is really a special case. He&#8217;s volatile and prone to outbursts. His campaign is poorly run and has squandered his positioning. And he&#8217;s already 71, on the edge of being too old to be President.</p>
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		<title>By: Breaktrack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breaktrack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want Hines Ward to run for and win the presidency. According to the newspapers he is Korean after all. Choi Hong-man would be my second choice if I had to make one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want Hines Ward to run for and win the presidency. According to the newspapers he is Korean after all. Choi Hong-man would be my second choice if I had to make one.</p>
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		<title>By: user-81</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/08/presidential-poll-of-the-week-its-lee-v-lee/#comment-116899</link>
		<dc:creator>user-81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy Jackson in #10:&lt;blockquote&gt;No, he won’t. McCain lost in 2000. That certainly doesn’t give him any special claim to the 2008 nomination. LMB is the GNP nomineed, selected in a more or less open process.

Actually, I would like to know the logic behind that statement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I was commenting on Brendon Carr's statement in #4:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;If Korea worked the way the United States does&lt;/b&gt;, a stand by Park Geun-hye on the principle that the party primary is a done deal and “conservative forces” should unite behind the party’s candidate would cement her stature as leader and make her odds-on favorite for the 2012 election.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Like Brendon Carr described, it seems McCain "stood behind winner George Bush on the principle that the party primary is a done deal and [the GOP] should unite behind the party's candidate." 

But this did not really "cement his stature as leader and make him the odds-on favorite for the following open election." So my question was does the United States really work this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy Jackson in #10:<br />
<blockquote>No, he won’t. McCain lost in 2000. That certainly doesn’t give him any special claim to the 2008 nomination. LMB is the GNP nomineed, selected in a more or less open process.</p>
<p>Actually, I would like to know the logic behind that statement.</p></blockquote>
<p>I was commenting on Brendon Carr&#8217;s statement in #4:<br />
<blockquote><b>If Korea worked the way the United States does</b>, a stand by Park Geun-hye on the principle that the party primary is a done deal and “conservative forces” should unite behind the party’s candidate would cement her stature as leader and make her odds-on favorite for the 2012 election.</p></blockquote>
<p>Like Brendon Carr described, it seems McCain &#8220;stood behind winner George Bush on the principle that the party primary is a done deal and [the GOP] should unite behind the party&#8217;s candidate.&#8221; </p>
<p>But this did not really &#8220;cement his stature as leader and make him the odds-on favorite for the following open election.&#8221; So my question was does the United States really work this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7 "Didn’t Lee lose the last election in large part because one of his sons did not service in the military? Wouldn’t that still be an issue this time around?"

That turned out to be a lie and the guy who brought those charges up did jail time and paid a fine for libel: http://www.minjukorea.com/cgi-local/note/read.cgi?board=opi&#38;y_number=2143
BTW, memories of the Kim Dae-eop affair is one reason why most LMB supporters are still with him despite the BBK accusations.

#9 "If the United States worked that way, wouldn’t McCain be the frontrunner?"

No, he won't.  McCain lost in 2000.  That certainly doesn't give him any special claim to the 2008 nomination.  LMB is the GNP nomineed, selected in a more or less open process.

Actually, I would like to know the logic behind that statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 &#8220;Didn’t Lee lose the last election in large part because one of his sons did not service in the military? Wouldn’t that still be an issue this time around?&#8221;</p>
<p>That turned out to be a lie and the guy who brought those charges up did jail time and paid a fine for libel: <a href="http://www.minjukorea.com/cgi-local/note/read.cgi?board=opi&amp;y_number=2143" rel="nofollow">http://www.minjukorea.com/cgi-.....umber=2143</a><br />
BTW, memories of the Kim Dae-eop affair is one reason why most LMB supporters are still with him despite the BBK accusations.</p>
<p>#9 &#8220;If the United States worked that way, wouldn’t McCain be the frontrunner?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, he won&#8217;t.  McCain lost in 2000.  That certainly doesn&#8217;t give him any special claim to the 2008 nomination.  LMB is the GNP nomineed, selected in a more or less open process.</p>
<p>Actually, I would like to know the logic behind that statement.</p>
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		<title>By: user-81</title>
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		<dc:creator>user-81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"If Korea worked the way the United States does, a stand by Park Geun-hye on the principle that the party primary is a done deal and “conservative forces” should unite behind the party’s candidate would cement her stature as leader and make her odds-on favorite for the 2012 election."

If the United States worked that way, wouldn't McCain be the frontrunner?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mccain#2008_Presidential_Bid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Korea worked the way the United States does, a stand by Park Geun-hye on the principle that the party primary is a done deal and “conservative forces” should unite behind the party’s candidate would cement her stature as leader and make her odds-on favorite for the 2012 election.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the United States worked that way, wouldn&#8217;t McCain be the frontrunner?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mccain#2008_Presidential_Bid" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.....ential_Bid</a></p>
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		<title>By: babarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>babarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I don't know the details of it well, I think the allegation was that his son cheated the system because of his father, but it has been found groundless later in court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I don&#8217;t know the details of it well, I think the allegation was that his son cheated the system because of his father, but it has been found groundless later in court.</p>
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