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		<title>By: cmm</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/03/asia-business-etiquette-101/#comment-116337</link>
		<dc:creator>cmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@16 Said chaebol doesn't really force it's Korean people in Korea to do "one shots" in company drinking parties anymore.  What has Korean culture come too :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@16 Said chaebol doesn&#8217;t really force it&#8217;s Korean people in Korea to do &#8220;one shots&#8221; in company drinking parties anymore.  What has Korean culture come too <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/03/asia-business-etiquette-101/#comment-116334</link>
		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Does Samsung in Saudi Arabia force its moslem Saudi managers to do “one shots” in company drinking parties?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They generally need to be restrained not forced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does Samsung in Saudi Arabia force its moslem Saudi managers to do “one shots” in company drinking parties?</p></blockquote>
<p>They generally need to be restrained not forced.</p>
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		<title>By: dokdoforever</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/03/asia-business-etiquette-101/#comment-116332</link>
		<dc:creator>dokdoforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys point out Biegel's naivety, but isn't Shigeta just as guilty of cultural ignorance?  When you launch a foreign subsidiary your company becomes
subject to the laws and customs of that other country.  Does Samsung in Saudi Arabia force its moslem Saudi managers to do "one shots" in company drinking parties?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys point out Biegel&#8217;s naivety, but isn&#8217;t Shigeta just as guilty of cultural ignorance?  When you launch a foreign subsidiary your company becomes<br />
subject to the laws and customs of that other country.  Does Samsung in Saudi Arabia force its moslem Saudi managers to do &#8220;one shots&#8221; in company drinking parties?</p>
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		<title>By: Jing</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/03/asia-business-etiquette-101/#comment-116331</link>
		<dc:creator>Jing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ampontan you are as predictable as a 3-legged dog. Between whining about how X,Y,Z do not understand Japan, the undieing passive-aggressive bitching regarding China and Korea, and waxing lyrical about podunk folk festivals no one gives a flying f*ck about I think i've got you figured down to a T.

The plaintiff obviouslly was not culturally aware enough to realize the issues regarding bath houses in Japan, but guess what, not everyone is entirely comfortable with sitting naked in a tub with their boss. And the Czech prostitutes? Clearly the man doesn't understand Japanese culture, but lets just look past that shall we.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ampontan you are as predictable as a 3-legged dog. Between whining about how X,Y,Z do not understand Japan, the undieing passive-aggressive bitching regarding China and Korea, and waxing lyrical about podunk folk festivals no one gives a flying f*ck about I think i&#8217;ve got you figured down to a T.</p>
<p>The plaintiff obviouslly was not culturally aware enough to realize the issues regarding bath houses in Japan, but guess what, not everyone is entirely comfortable with sitting naked in a tub with their boss. And the Czech prostitutes? Clearly the man doesn&#8217;t understand Japanese culture, but lets just look past that shall we.</p>
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		<title>By: jameslayne</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/03/asia-business-etiquette-101/#comment-116305</link>
		<dc:creator>jameslayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can i sue my company for NOT taking me to see any hookers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can i sue my company for NOT taking me to see any hookers?</p>
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		<title>By: Maekchu</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/03/asia-business-etiquette-101/#comment-116302</link>
		<dc:creator>Maekchu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do I go to fill out an application to work for this company?   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do I go to fill out an application to work for this company?   <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: TomCoyner</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/03/asia-business-etiquette-101/#comment-116257</link>
		<dc:creator>TomCoyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be really interesting to get Dentsu’s side of this story.  The last lunch I had this past week in Tokyo was with a very senior executive of Dentsu at the top of their Shimbashi headquarters.  I’ve known this man and his family since university days and I would be hard pressed to imagine him, for example, pressuring an American executive into the below-described activities.  

What this clearly reminds me of is what happened to Hitachi in California some 25 years ago.  They had an HR manager who thought he had a scheme to retire early from his Compton, California job.  He went out of his way to hire Asian immigrants at the expense of Afro- and Latin American workers who predominated in the surrounding Watts and Compton communities while becoming active in the Urban League and visiting Afro-American churches.

When he had a major unbalance of too many Asian immigrant assembly workers and had documented the Japanese management's preference to hire Asian applicants, he told a couple of Black job applicants that he was sorry but Hitachi prefers to hire Asians.

The applicants then reported the incident to government authorities, of course, and Hitachi had a major set of wrongful employment suits on its hands.  In the meantime, this scumbag portrayed himself as being the poor whistle blower who also was a victim when he got fired as HR manager.  He then sued Hitachi.  While he probably didn't get as much as he had hoped, I'm afraid that Hitachi probably settled on some amount.  I don't know since the final matter was kept confidential.

My point, of course, is the American executive is probably no idiot but rather a very cynical dude who is probably trying to set Dentsu up for what looks like to be spin at tort law's Wheel of Fortune - a real hallmark of American life.

I suspect there is much more to this story than that is alleged in the newspaper's account.  While the Japanese are hardly angels, they do attract some of America's worst sleaze on to payrolls -- often at the executive levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be really interesting to get Dentsu’s side of this story.  The last lunch I had this past week in Tokyo was with a very senior executive of Dentsu at the top of their Shimbashi headquarters.  I’ve known this man and his family since university days and I would be hard pressed to imagine him, for example, pressuring an American executive into the below-described activities.  </p>
<p>What this clearly reminds me of is what happened to Hitachi in California some 25 years ago.  They had an HR manager who thought he had a scheme to retire early from his Compton, California job.  He went out of his way to hire Asian immigrants at the expense of Afro- and Latin American workers who predominated in the surrounding Watts and Compton communities while becoming active in the Urban League and visiting Afro-American churches.</p>
<p>When he had a major unbalance of too many Asian immigrant assembly workers and had documented the Japanese management&#8217;s preference to hire Asian applicants, he told a couple of Black job applicants that he was sorry but Hitachi prefers to hire Asians.</p>
<p>The applicants then reported the incident to government authorities, of course, and Hitachi had a major set of wrongful employment suits on its hands.  In the meantime, this scumbag portrayed himself as being the poor whistle blower who also was a victim when he got fired as HR manager.  He then sued Hitachi.  While he probably didn&#8217;t get as much as he had hoped, I&#8217;m afraid that Hitachi probably settled on some amount.  I don&#8217;t know since the final matter was kept confidential.</p>
<p>My point, of course, is the American executive is probably no idiot but rather a very cynical dude who is probably trying to set Dentsu up for what looks like to be spin at tort law&#8217;s Wheel of Fortune - a real hallmark of American life.</p>
<p>I suspect there is much more to this story than that is alleged in the newspaper&#8217;s account.  While the Japanese are hardly angels, they do attract some of America&#8217;s worst sleaze on to payrolls &#8212; often at the executive levels.</p>
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		<title>By: MigukNamja</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/03/asia-business-etiquette-101/#comment-116244</link>
		<dc:creator>MigukNamja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Iceberg

My mistake. Good catch.</description>
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<p>My mistake. Good catch.</p>
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		<title>By: Iceberg</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/03/asia-business-etiquette-101/#comment-116210</link>
		<dc:creator>Iceberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MigukNamja

You're confusing Sharapova with Anna Kournikova.  While both are hotties, it is Kournikova who has never won anything of significance.  Sharapova has won two grand slam titles and in 2005 was ranked number one in the world for awhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MigukNamja</p>
<p>You&#8217;re confusing Sharapova with Anna Kournikova.  While both are hotties, it is Kournikova who has never won anything of significance.  Sharapova has won two grand slam titles and in 2005 was ranked number one in the world for awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: virtual wonderer</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/03/asia-business-etiquette-101/#comment-116208</link>
		<dc:creator>virtual wonderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can just imagine...

"Biegel-san, do you like sushi?"

"Yes Mr. Ta-(insert syllables here)-ra, I love sushi... but..."

"Biegel-san, we have to treat our clients.  gazillions of yen depend on this."

"But Mr. Ta--ra... the plate... the plate is a naked WOMAN!"

"Biegel-san, we asked you hear, because the company also cares about your... happiness as well."

"If that's true, can I send back the dish and ask one with a more masculine persuasion?"

"...  you are fired."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can just imagine&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Biegel-san, do you like sushi?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes Mr. Ta-(insert syllables here)-ra, I love sushi&#8230; but&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Biegel-san, we have to treat our clients.  gazillions of yen depend on this.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But Mr. Ta&#8211;ra&#8230; the plate&#8230; the plate is a naked WOMAN!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Biegel-san, we asked you hear, because the company also cares about your&#8230; happiness as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If that&#8217;s true, can I send back the dish and ask one with a more masculine persuasion?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;  you are fired.&#8221;</p>
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