With the New York Philharmonic considering a performance in Pyongyang, both the WSJ and the NYT have run op-eds frowning on the idea.
In the WSJ, Terry Teachout doubts the concert will really move the hearts of the North Koreans:
Should the orchestra of Gustav Mahler, Arturo Toscanini and Leonard Bernstein be making music for a man like that? Some thoughtful observers think it’s worth a try. Music critic Greg Sandow, a contributor to the Journal, has argued on his blog that “if even a few North Koreans can see for themselves what the West is like, and if they can meet some Americans, there’s no telling how deep the effect might be. . ..a Western orchestra playing its heart out–as I’m sure the Philharmonic will–might well be a revelation.”
I take Mr. Sandow’s point, and I, too, believe devoutly in the life-changing power of Western art. But as he himself acknowledged, “Attendance at the Philharmonic’s concerts will be carefully controlled. And of course any concert in Pyongyang can’t possibly reach the North Korean people, because only the elite, for the most part, are allowed into Pyongyang.” Even if such a concert were to be telecast, the handful of North Koreans lucky enough to see it, isolated as they are from the rest of the world, might well conclude that by sending a great orchestra there, the U.S. was showing its support for the tyrants who rule them. That’s why I’ve come to the conclusion that should the Philharmonic choose to play in Pyongyang, it will be doing little more than participating in a puppet show whose purpose is to lend legitimacy to a despicable regime.
Meanwhile, in the NYT, a hard-hitting team of Richard Allen and Chuck Downs advises the New York Philharmonic to just say no:
If, as some starry-eyed commentators have suggested, the dictator’s willingness to let the Philharmonic perform demonstrates a new level of “openness,” then the orchestra should be able to make reasonable demands: that the orchestra alone set its program; that the performance be broadcast on state radio for everyone to hear; that the concert hall be open to the public, not just the elite; and that the Western press be allowed to attend. If the regime refuses these conditions, the Philharmonic should, in the name of artistic freedom, decline to perform in North Korea.
It matters not to me whether the New York Philharmonic will perform in North Korea. I think it’s kind of odd that the New York Philharmonic would want to perform in a place like North Korea. But then again, I guess it’s only a matter of time before Secretary of State Rice — or even President Bush — is paying tribute to the Court of Comrade Kim, so why not the New York Philharmonic?
UPDATE: At his blog, Mark Russell posted that a performance might be a good idea after all:
I just talked to Andrei Lankov (the obvious go-to guy for comparing North Korea and Russia), and he said that the North Koreans do take their classical music seriously. They have not politicized it the way the Soviet Union did (although they did ban the public performance of classical music for about 15 years, in the 1960s and 70s), and it is probably the least controversial part of high culture, accepted in a way that painting and the other Western fine arts art not.
So if classical music is relatively accepted in NK, how can performances by the New York Philharmonic help? Well, it is always good to show Americans in a positive way publicly in North Korea. If it could lead to a North Korean orchestra playing in the United States, so much the better. Since so much of NK is built in propaganda and lies, the more channels you have to bring in outside information and influences the better.
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The stuff about edifying the North Korean public with “high art” is jazz and about as silly as that Chung Dong-young guy hinting at the Absolute Idea as in that other thread. Those musicians have no reason for being in NK and have many obvous reasons not to be.
–There would be a good reason, but it wouldn’t be timely to go there just now. Maybe, like Bernstein and the NYP troupe did after the fall of the Berlin Wall, they whould go within a few decades, when or if. And even then it would still strike me as a bit incongruous. Hell, the NYP in Seoul would seem strange too.
To start with, this is a good news. Have I not been that madly busy this week, I would write a letter to the WSJ arguing with what I see as silly comments (sorry). Such things worked with the USSR. Yes, rock-n-roll worked better, but it was for the masses while the philharmonic orchestras were for the high-brow public. Cultural exchanges with the West were gradually undermining the official myths in the USSR, and the same effect will be reached in NK. Such things will show that the Americans are not a bunch of sadists who spend days and nights dreaming how to kill more Korean kids. And even if their concerts will be “closed”, this might have good effect as well. This will make elite members and (especially their children) eager to get an opportunity to attend, thus making an exposure to the Western culture even more prestigious. I have seen how well it worked in the USSR. It will work in NK. The arguments of the columnists cited above are remarkably non-sensical and ridiculous.
“abcdefg” your comment mentioning “Jazz” is downright ignorant, considering “Jazz”, the music. Maybe you will want to try again and use a better analogy.
Robert, this site is really, really sluggish using the “Preview” for comments.
“And even if their concerts will be “closed”, this might have good effect as well. This will make elite members and (especially their children) eager to get an opportunity to attend, thus making an exposure to the Western culture even more prestigious.”
I hadn’t thought about it that way, but I think you’re on to something. It has the potential to become quite the cultural event, which means that the elite will demand for more.
How exactly did concerts “work” in the Soviet Union? Do you seriously contend that they played any significant role in the collapse of the USSR? I’m not preemptorily dismissing that notion; but neither should you so dismissively send Teachout, Allen and Downs packing. Bad Form, what?
Good heavens no. The ’88 Olympics is credited with that.
Dear Sperwer, May be I was a bit too annoyed about those guys, being quite tired today, but nonetheless their logic seems a bit strange to me. They say something like that: “North Koreans are bad, so we’d rather leave them listennign to the Flower-Selling Girl, and when they are free we wil probably come there, to reward them for their good behaviour”. Well, first of all, people who will come to the concerts are not exactly torture specialists. Second, the more isolated the North koreans are, the longer they will believe in the lies their government has to tell them to stay in power.
Re concerts in the USSR. Of course, they were a very minor factor, one of thousands things which contributed to the gradual and slow change in perception of the West. As I have said, the hard rock perhaps played a greater role, but… Any major concert of Western band/orchestra was an event, especially in pre-detente era, that is, before the late 1960s. New musical ideas, to be sure, but also hint at the a different world. Re-de-humanization of the Evil Enemy, fist of all. Some opportunities to talk for the NK musicians one of the least politically reliable professional groups, if the Soviet experience tells something). Even few jokes will mean much. The NKoreans are hungry for uncensored information about the outside world.
So, the more contacts and exchanges, the better. Students. Orchestras, Socer teams. Every one targeting its own audience. None will be desicive, and all together will play a role.
Once again, I am in favour of both soft and hard measures. As a matter of fact, I was annoyed because I was tired, and I was tired because I has a tough deadline to write and record a column to be broadcast to North Korea tomorrow. By a “subversive station”, of course. But I think that NYP visit will work be working towards the same result – changing North Korea and North Koreans.
This has been coming for a while now. And I tend to agree with Mr. Lankov. The Philharmonic will make little difference, but it can’t hurt. Ordinary North Koreans will not even be told the NYP visited, and the small cadre of people who will see it are probably already aware of how far ahead the west is anyway.
But what harm can it do?
The North Korean elite takes this stuff very seriously. Their own operas are absolutely stunning (I was lucky enough to see True Daughter of the Party in Pyongyang).
There’s always going to be people who wil be outraged (see joshua over at onefreekorea) because either A. they’ll see it as an underserved reward to the regime and/or B. Cannot conceive of the benefits of engagement/exchange.
But it will hardly be a reward; for the NK hardliners, the skill of the NYP will be a bitter pill. And exchange/engagement already proved itself in the USSR, as Andre pointed out.
At the end of the day, why not?
I personally couldn’t give a hoot about the NY Phil going to North Korea when Paris Hilton is coming to South Korea in a week.
Get your priorities straight, people!
When I saw the headline I thought KJI had had them kidnapped…
@8: Perhaps you should actually go read Joshua’s most recent post.
Paris in Seoul? Any hope that there might be just one more state-sponsored abduction pukchoguro…?
Ordinary N Koreans will will probably be told of the event–as there is a good chance the regime may twist it around as saying the performance is a tribute to the regime. And look! Pyongyang is such an international city! But that is the only worry I have. No worry about it ‘adding legitimacy’ to the regime to the outside world.
If they do play, I hope they play their guts out and astound the audience, whether the elite or not. And I hope the musicians retain their streak of independence and strong-mindedness–as such top flight musicians can have–and give their minders fits on the trip.
“Maybe you will want to try again and use a better analogy.”
If you don’t want me to conclude you’re some doof or if the expression really bothers you, then next time try explaining why it does. What is “Jazz” to you and what do you think I think it is? Start there. I am a fan of jazz music, but I don’t read minds.
“abcdefg”, I don’t like hearing people mention “Jazz” in connection to some bs thing. I love the music and respect the tradition, thus it I hate hearing those corn pone sayings about “jazzing it up”, etc. when the meaning implies something that is negative. Surely you understand that?
The use of “jazz” as a slightly pejorative noun is one of the many standard usages and usually doesn’t necessarily imply disrespect for any form of jazz music.
5. Slang. insincere, exaggerated, or pretentious talk: “Don’t give me any of that jazz about your great job as an English teacher in Korea!”
From: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/jazz
(Ok, I admit I added that last dependent clause to the sample sentence…)
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