What If Yankee Really Does Go Home?

If you subscribe to the Korea Economic Reader (subscribe at Tom Coyner’s homepage), you will have seen the Oct 6 piece in the WSJ by Nick Eberstadt, Aaron Friedberg and Christopher Griffin discussing a Yankee-free Korea. It’s a goodie, so if you haven’t read it, please do.

23 Comments

  1. cmm your flag
    Posted October 22, 2007 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    The answer to this is simple:
    There’d be a lot fewer foreign penises being abhorred here.

  2. Posted October 22, 2007 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    When US GIs leave, Korea will end as a nation.

    When two Koreas combine, it will not be Korea any more.

    It will be a small Chinese hitman, hired by real China to attack Japan, America and EU.

    Korean women will belong to the Chinese.

  3. Posted October 22, 2007 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    When two Koreas combine, the United Korea will immediately enact the law that prohibit its citizens from leaving the country.

    They will say that this law is necessary to stop outflow of wealth.

    The country will be closed from travelling in or out except Seoul. Just like what NK is doing, all Seoulites will be kicked out of the capital city replaced by Kim Jongil’s people.

    Seoul will be just like PyongYang. Every move choreographed by Korean Community party. A gigantic lie.

    Dark days are coming.

  4. Posted October 22, 2007 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    After jumping through multiple hoops, I can now comment.

    Please don’t link to things you need a damn subscription to read…

    The WSJ for example…

  5. elvislovechild your flag
    Posted October 22, 2007 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    Baduk, I always enjoy your comments. Having visited your (sadly, not updated) blog, I notice that none of your predictions for 2007 have happened. You still have a couple of months and hope springs eternal ( I think you’ll be half right about the U.S. attacking Iran thing).
    With such a sterling track record, you should immediately be hired as a pundit for Fox news and CNN. A fellowship at the American Enterprise Institute will undoubtedly follow.

  6. CriticalThinker your flag
    Posted October 22, 2007 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    I was able to see the article using Google News. Try this link:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/.....lenews_wsj

  7. Posted October 22, 2007 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    Or Brookings.

  8. Posted October 22, 2007 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    No doubt Roh would love to be responsible for a deal that eventually leads to a confederation and the expulsion of USFK; but that’s not going to happen. The election is less than two months away, and any deal with North Korea won’t last at any rate.

    South Korea’s current policy makers do indeed differ with the U.S. on the nature of the North Korean threat; again a new administration will be in the Blue House in three months.

    But if the U.S. does leave what will happen is not that hard to imagine, and they come to some of the exact same conclusions I did last year (ROK going nuclear, etc. - post here).

  9. Posted October 22, 2007 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Read the Google cached article at AIE here.

  10. cm your flag
    Posted October 22, 2007 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    CriticalThinker, it’s the same thing - subscription needed.

  11. Graham your flag
    Posted October 22, 2007 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    Perhaps you’ll need to subscribe.

  12. Posted October 22, 2007 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    Use the link in #9.

  13. exexpatPete your flag
    Posted October 22, 2007 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    #9 Thank you monsieur.

    Good article - not many surprises.

  14. Posted October 23, 2007 at 4:27 am | Permalink

    #5,

    I second that and would also call Baduk’s predictions BS. There should be an unwritten rule in the hole that the more serious the subject, the most serious the comments should be. Otherwise we should all be free to call it BS.

  15. Posted October 23, 2007 at 6:10 am | Permalink

    When I first wrote that Hwang is a lier and “somatic nuclear transfer” to make human clone is not possible, people laughed at me. Koreans, especially, thought that I was crazy for suggesting the prestigeous Seoul National University professor is flat manufacturing scientific data.

    They wrote, how can a mere individual like me doubt the international journal Science editorial staff who sent Hwang’s article to three independent experts before publishing.

    Well, the rest is history.

    I admit that my predictions are somewhat premature. However, it is only a matter of time that my predictions will come true.

    I was an Intelligent officer stationed in Korea. I have worked with Korean military in upper echelon officer level.

    Mark my words. “When US military leaves Korea, Korea is dead. Dead. Ka-put!”

  16. Posted October 23, 2007 at 6:15 am | Permalink

    I am writing this in the hope that you will tell your friends and neighbors about the importance of US Forces in Korea.

    Yes, you guys are truly protecting Korea. And, Korean people.

    Be proud. Be very proud. You are saving lives.

    Influence anyone you can. Tell them about the “Killing Field” that is coming when the US pulls out of Korea.

  17. cmm your flag
    Posted October 23, 2007 at 8:33 am | Permalink

    @15 but SNU isn’t prestigious… only to Koreans.

  18. Posted October 23, 2007 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    While I think baduk is generally a shocking fool, in this thread I agree with his prediction.

    Korea has a history of capital controls which are still hanging on even to this day, of controls on the movements of its people (ask anyone you know how hard it used to be to get a passport), and of hysterical reactions to “emergencies.” And unification with the North will definitely prompt an emergency, especially if it’s sudden. Seoul will covet every bit of “national wealth” it can lay hands on to pay for the immediate costs. Anyone with half a brain (luckily, I have less brain than that!) will want to get out of Dodge in that scenario. I would expect a stupid policy announcement like the one baduk predicts.

    But I’m not a citizen here. Instead of being forced to stay, maybe I’ll be kindly asked to vacate the premises — taking my abhorrent penis with me but leaving behind the apartment and meager savings I’ve pillaged from the unfortunate masses.

  19. Posted October 24, 2007 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Brendon Carr,

    You immediately assume that when two Koreas unite SK will be in control. I rather think it will be NK in control with strong SK Commie support.

    The United Korea will be a dictatorial system, sort of like Napoleonic regime after French revolution.

    Like Russia, mobs will control cities and politics. NK soldiers will go underground and form the biggest mob in Asia. It may even topple Yakuza and Tongs.

    More killings, more confusion.

    All foreigners will get kicked out to purify Korean blood. Boxers will own the cities.

  20. iheartblueballs your flag
    Posted October 24, 2007 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    There’s a titanic gap between a) The reasonable Carr prediction that a oneblood-crazed SK unificationista gov’t could get overzealous in seizing private assets as a “peace” or “unification” tax, resulting in significant outflow of capital, and b) Baduk’s lunatic fringe of envisioning KJI’s private army taking over Seoul, kicking out 15 million people, and turning it into a Pyeongyang South complete with mass gymnastics on the hour and Communist manifestos in every shop window.

    That gap is the difference between rational discourse and a rabid, barking Art Bell conspiracy nut without the slightest grasp on reality, who cries wolf on the hour and claims the sky is falling every half hour (no offense baduk).

    It’s also quite a coincidence that baduk has the singular result of his Hwang prediction seared into his brain and brings it up every other post, yet can’t seem to recall the hundreds of thousands of other doomsday predictions he’s made over the last couple years that were not only completely, ridiculously, utterly wrong, but flat out fucking insane.

    And if someone doesn’t start a blog called Abhorrent Penis soon, I will be forced to.

  21. Breaktrack your flag
    Posted October 25, 2007 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    The US should go home. Koreans should be ready to defend themselves by now. It’s time the US stop wasting money and people on an ungrateful nation.

  22. Posted October 25, 2007 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    Actually, I agree with Baduk on most of his predictions for this scenario save who will be in control. I don’t believe Northern elements will control unified Korea.

    North Korean labor, however, will stream southward (and South Korean capital will simultaneously stream northward), further displacing South Korea’s already-struggling semi-skilled and unskilled labor classes. These people, together with a hard-core criminal set that is being nurtured up north, will form an angry and desperate underclass.

    Couple that with Koreans’ natural tendencies to see themselves as victims, to hate foreigners, and to express discontent violently, and we will undoubtedly see Boxer-style unrest in the streets of Seoul sometime during the turbulent post-Unification years. I hope my kids are grown before the pogroms start.

  23. peninsular aborigine your flag
    Posted October 26, 2007 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Baduk, As much as I admire your work and consider you the conscience of this blog, I have to admit that your powers of divination leave something to be desired. Please look at your own blog’s predictions for this year. You remind me of me - I once took a multiple choice test in advanced Korean and scored significantly (statistically) below probability. Your prognosticatory skills are of a piece with that.

    Anyway, keep slogging.

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