Comments on: Koreans Taking Over the UN? http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/ Korea... in Blog Format Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:35:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: peninsular aborigine http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114614 peninsular aborigine Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:14:25 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114614 It really is a delight to see Ban rather than the kleptocrat Kofi in that position - I still maintain his being there now is a portent suggesting something big in the wind vis-a-vis NK. It really is a delight to see Ban rather than the kleptocrat Kofi in that position - I still maintain his being there now is a portent suggesting something big in the wind vis-a-vis NK.

]]> By: slim http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114486 slim Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:36:29 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114486 The people I spoke to were referring not so much to Annan cronies, but to seconded diplomats and others who ran peacekeeping and other emergency operations. Again, it is still the UN, so the "grain of salt" advice applies. The people I spoke to were referring not so much to Annan cronies, but to seconded diplomats and others who ran peacekeeping and other emergency operations. Again, it is still the UN, so the “grain of salt” advice applies.

]]> By: Janus http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114482 Janus Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:42:15 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114482 Kofi's kronies had "expertise?" well, I guess if you count expertise in graft, obfuscation, and appeasement then yes, kofi had the all stars. Kofi’s kronies had “expertise?”

well, I guess if you count expertise in graft, obfuscation, and appeasement then yes, kofi had the all stars.

]]> By: snow http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114468 snow Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:44:47 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114468 "Everyone wants their fair share of the loot and the sinecures. What else is new at the world’s most corrupt institution?" Yes, and it's those 'selfish' Americans (who only look after their own interests) who are paying a huge chunk of the bills. C'mon UN, put more hacks on the payroll, the Yankees and a few other rich suckers will eventually foot the bill. “Everyone wants their fair share of the loot and the sinecures. What else is new at the world’s most corrupt institution?”

Yes, and it’s those ’selfish’ Americans (who only look after their own interests) who are paying a huge chunk of the bills. C’mon UN, put more hacks on the payroll, the Yankees and a few other rich suckers will eventually foot the bill.

]]> By: captbbq http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114460 captbbq Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:11:45 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114460 (note: I had five links to sources in my post, so evidently this triggered a spam block, moderator: please delete this post, my number 14 and my number 18, and if its OK, approve 17 please. sorry I'll know next time) What do you know, as of June 2007 the Philippines had 600 soldiers deployed in UN peacekeeping missions While “6 months before Ban Ki Moon” took office” (how much more cherry picked can you get?) Korea had relatively few from between 9-34. I can’t find exact figures, but it works out something like this: - 393 deployed in total right now… - 350 of those are in Lebanon which started in July 2007 and an unspecified number were deploy to East Timor in August 2006 after the time frame mentioned by the article - 2 in Liberia, 7 in Georgia (both from 2003) and ? in Northern Sudan(from 2005; not Dafur) at the time mentioned by the article That means there were somewhere between 10-34 ROK peacekeppers deployed and ~600 Filipinos at the time in question. based on that, I find it highly likely that whoever made this argument is including peacekeepers in its 54-759 figure… so in other words if Ban Ki Moon or the Washington post is using this disparity in July of 2006 to justify how Korea is under represented in the UN they are smoking the wrong stuff, because its the Korean Government is responsible for sending peacekeepers… (note: I had five links to sources in my post, so evidently this triggered a spam block, moderator: please delete this post, my number 14 and my number 18, and if its OK, approve 17 please. sorry I’ll know next time)

What do you know, as of June 2007 the Philippines had 600 soldiers deployed in UN peacekeeping missions

While “6 months before Ban Ki Moon” took office” (how much more cherry picked can you get?) Korea had relatively few from between 9-34. I can’t find exact figures, but it works out something like this:

- 393 deployed in total right now…

- 350 of those are in Lebanon which started in July 2007 and an unspecified number were deploy to East Timor in August 2006 after the time frame mentioned by the article

- 2 in Liberia, 7 in Georgia (both from 2003) and ? in Northern Sudan(from 2005; not Dafur) at the time mentioned by the article

That means there were somewhere between 10-34 ROK peacekeppers deployed and ~600 Filipinos at the time in question. based on that, I find it highly likely that whoever made this argument is including peacekeepers in its 54-759 figure… so in other words if Ban Ki Moon or the Washington post is using this disparity in July of 2006 to justify how Korea is under represented in the UN they are smoking the wrong stuff, because its the Korean Government is responsible for sending peacekeepers…

]]> By: captbbq http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114453 captbbq Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:06:53 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114453 Why are my comments moderated and others not? I eliminated the obscenities... a comment length issue? maybe too many linked sources are causing them to be automatically blocked? Why are my comments moderated and others not? I eliminated the obscenities… a comment length issue? maybe too many linked sources are causing them to be automatically blocked?

]]> By: slim http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114445 slim Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:49:12 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114445 The rap at the 2007 UNGA has some overlap with the WAPO article, but boils down to complaints not so much about Ban, but about the #2 Mr Kim mentioned in the report. They include: --Having sacked a lot of the people from the Kofi Annan era who had necessary expertise in key conflict areas and peacekeeping in general. --"Koreans only" secrecy at some key junctures. --Ban's Korean team lacks broad international experience and vision. I don't find these surprising, but I second the Marmot's view of UN bureaucrats and take the self-interested complaints some make with a grain of salt. On Ban, the consistent complaint is hard-to-understand English and non-existent French. Some accuse him of being too close to and too solicitous of the Americans. The rap at the 2007 UNGA has some overlap with the WAPO article, but boils down to complaints not so much about Ban, but about the #2 Mr Kim mentioned in the report. They include:
–Having sacked a lot of the people from the Kofi Annan era who had necessary expertise in key conflict areas and peacekeeping in general.
–”Koreans only” secrecy at some key junctures.
–Ban’s Korean team lacks broad international experience and vision.

I don’t find these surprising, but I second the Marmot’s view of UN bureaucrats and take the self-interested complaints some make with a grain of salt.

On Ban, the consistent complaint is hard-to-understand English and non-existent French. Some accuse him of being too close to and too solicitous of the Americans.

]]> By: Fantasy http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114444 Fantasy Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:40:06 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114444 I rather thought of the latter than the former... I rather thought of the latter than the former…

]]> By: Sperwer http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114442 Sperwer Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:19:19 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114442 Fantasy: Such people? meaning the war wounded? - yeah, lots; they even had special recreation areas for them, so regular folks wouldn't be grossed out seeing the wear and tear of battle on the human body. I saw such a beach resort near Radolfzell-am-Bodensee. meaning people who didn't get it? - yeah, a lot of them too Fantasy:

Such people?

meaning the war wounded? - yeah, lots; they even had special recreation areas for them, so regular folks wouldn’t be grossed out seeing the wear and tear of battle on the human body. I saw such a beach resort near Radolfzell-am-Bodensee.

meaning people who didn’t get it? - yeah, a lot of them too

]]> By: Fantasy http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114439 Fantasy Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:48:24 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/22/koreans-taking-over-the-un/#comment-114439 Should have read: And by that time... Should have read:

And by that time…

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