Comments on: Learning Language Not Necessarily Learning Culture http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/18/learning-language-not-necessarily-learning-culture/ Korea... in Blog Format Fri, 9 Jan 2009 06:16:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: FD http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/18/learning-language-not-necessarily-learning-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-113756 FD Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:43:52 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/18/learning-language-not-necessarily-learning-culture/#comment-113756 The phenomena explicated in the article could account for the genesis of many of the posts and comments on this blog. The phenomena explicated in the article could account for the genesis of many of the posts and comments on this blog.

]]> By: Fantasy http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/18/learning-language-not-necessarily-learning-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-113499 Fantasy Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:45:59 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/18/learning-language-not-necessarily-learning-culture/#comment-113499 Poor thing... Poor thing…

]]> By: eunsung http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/18/learning-language-not-necessarily-learning-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-113494 eunsung Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:48:11 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/18/learning-language-not-necessarily-learning-culture/#comment-113494 I know a girl from YanJi who speaks native Korea, but doesn't know who King SeJong is. I know a girl from YanJi who speaks native Korea, but doesn’t know who King SeJong is.

]]> By: dokdoforever http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/18/learning-language-not-necessarily-learning-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-113472 dokdoforever Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:37:57 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/18/learning-language-not-necessarily-learning-culture/#comment-113472 An entertaining article about the Western academic Pulvers' inability to understand the culture of his Japanese cab driver despite being fluent in Japanese. But I think Ampontan's critique tells more about Pulvers' general cluelessness about relating to non-linguists than something generalizable about people failing to learn foreign cultures. Pulvers would probably just as likely turn off a NY cabbie, or most people, by debating Polish male animate nouns. No doubt that language contains lots of cultural content. Look at all the different titles for various relatives in Korean - it tells you alot about 1)how important family is here, and 2)the heirarchical nature of confucian based family relations in Korea. An entertaining article about the Western academic Pulvers’ inability to understand the culture of his Japanese cab driver despite being fluent in Japanese. But I think Ampontan’s critique tells more about Pulvers’ general cluelessness about relating to non-linguists than something generalizable about people failing to learn foreign cultures. Pulvers would probably just as likely turn off a NY cabbie, or most people, by debating Polish male animate nouns. No doubt that language contains lots of cultural content. Look at all the different titles for various relatives in Korean - it tells you alot about 1)how important family is here, and 2)the heirarchical nature of confucian based family relations in Korea.

]]> By: Fantasy http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/18/learning-language-not-necessarily-learning-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-113462 Fantasy Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:07:10 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/18/learning-language-not-necessarily-learning-culture/#comment-113462 The AMPONTAN post is right on spot. Reminds me of Germans who speak and write excellent English - but nevertheless have a profound aversion agianst the US, not only against the Bush administration (which would be understandable, after all), but against American culture itself. Because the casual friendliness in the US is regarded as "superficial"... These people usually like Ireland, Australia or New Zealand, though... The AMPONTAN post is right on spot. Reminds me of Germans who speak and write excellent English - but nevertheless have a profound aversion agianst the US, not only against the Bush administration (which would be understandable, after all), but against American culture itself. Because the casual friendliness in the US is regarded as “superficial”…

These people usually like Ireland, Australia or New Zealand, though…

]]> By: dda http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/18/learning-language-not-necessarily-learning-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-113450 dda Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:15:08 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/18/learning-language-not-necessarily-learning-culture/#comment-113450 <blockquote>I mean, Polish, for instance, has elaborate case endings for adjectives, and even has a special one for the nominative plural of male animate nouns!</blockquote>Mwahaha, if this guy is able to replicate accurately this sentence in Japanese, then the Japanese hackie's answer <em>Still, Japanese is the most difficult language</em> makes sense, since the argument probably didn't make any sense at all for him, and such a difficult sentence with so many difficult words, come on... And let's not get started with replacing every occurrence of Japan[ese] with Korea[n] either.. :-) But a foreign student supporting himself as a hackie, in Korea, now that would be cool!

I mean, Polish, for instance, has elaborate case endings for adjectives, and even has a special one for the nominative plural of male animate nouns!

Mwahaha, if this guy is able to replicate accurately this sentence in Japanese, then the Japanese hackie’s answer Still, Japanese is the most difficult language makes sense, since the argument probably didn’t make any sense at all for him, and such a difficult sentence with so many difficult words, come on…

And let’s not get started with replacing every occurrence of Japan[ese] with Korea[n] either.. :-)

But a foreign student supporting himself as a hackie, in Korea, now that would be cool!

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