Nobel prizes are pretty much worthless. KDJ essentially purchased his, and no Gore gets one for being the high priest of a daft environmental cult. At this rate they’ll give one to KJI after a peace treaty is concluded.
I was disappointed when America elected ‘charismatic’ George Bush instead of sensible Al Gore in 2000. If Al Gore had been elected, we wouldn’t have Iraqi War, America would have signed the Kyoto Protocol, and the dollar would be worth more than what it is now. I’m glad he won the Nobel Prize.
Democrats were up for the Iraq invasion as well. You seem to forget that Clinton and Kerry both signed on. The World Intel agencies all had the same conclusion. US, Russian, German, French, British, Italian, etc.
Weak dollar does not mean a weak economy.
People would love to forget that George W. Bush pulled the world and the USA out of a recession with !gasp! “TAX CUTS”, and low interest rates.
Oh, my God !
You mean, home ownership, stock values increased and unemployment decreased WHILE Bush was President and WHILE there is a 2 front war being handled with less EU and international support than the Vietnam War and the Korean War and even World War II?
Al Gore deserved it. And if he would only run, I would vote for him for Pres.
One thing IS for sure….America and the world would be a LOT better off if Gore had entered the White House instead of Bush in 2001.
Richardson, “daft environmental cult”? Have you even WATCHED “An Inconvenient Truth”?? Exactly what was DAFT about it? Oh, but wait, you’re the same guy who once implied on another thread on this blog that global warming, if the phenomenon even existed, wasn’t caused by human activities.
Amazing the denial and ignorance that some Republicans are STILL exhibiting about global warming.
JK, without Bush’s taxcuts, this world would have gone thru a major recession. The bull market with Clinton’s cycle was over, and compound that with 911, increasing costs of business and bankrupting airlines, the world as we know it SHOULD HAVE been thru at least 10 years of recession without someone, someone smart at the position of US President doing something the Democrats would NEVER do.
Tax cuts.
Tax CUTS?
Yeah, tax cuts.
This has been played around and spinned around in many circles, branding it another way to make the rich, richer.
Really?
Well, don’t question the results, my friend.
My misguided friend.
There is a big difference when I put on that “w” in front of my name. It’s like a badge.
Look at everything the Dems are talking about. Canceling those tax cuts is a GIVEN.
Raising more taxes is a GIVEN.
They spin this around by saying we’re only taking from people making $200K +.
That’s a spin.
You know why?
I’ll tell you. Or you can read one of Robert Kiyosaki’s economics for dummies series. Middle class always pays the heart of govt revenue. It’s impossible to fill the need just by tapping on the few % who really make it big. Impossible. Mathematically and realistically.
They’re gonna go after property taxes, sales taxes, state income taxes, you name it. You watch.
They’re already doing that.
Just yesterday, Chicago Mayor Daly announced his project for the city, and it definately guaranttees a tax raise all around Chicago. Property, sales, most likely fuel, maybe your cable and phone bill, I mean they’ll find a way to take a % out of every orifice in your life.
Thus, I come to this logical conclusion that Republicans will be around forever. FOREVER.
because people will FOREVER become sick of a certain amount of socialism and high taxes.
ONLY China? Well, China is the largest total producer of greenhouse gases, but the responsibility is squarely on all developed and developing nations that use fossil fuels.
Per the Christian Science Monitor to say it’s only China is much too simplistic. Americans still produce the most greenhouse gases per capita.
“…I was disappointed when America elected ‘charismatic’ George Bush instead of sensible Al Gore in 2000. If Al Gore had been elected…America would have signed the Kyoto Protocol…”
Actually, babarian, the US did “sign” the Kyoto Protocol. None other than your hero VP Gore actually executed the physical signing:
“…On November 12, 1998, Vice President Al Gore symbolically signed the protocol. Both Gore and Senator Joseph Lieberman indicated that the protocol would not be acted upon in the Senate until there was participation by the developing nations….”
However, I think what you meant to say is that the US coulda/ woulda/ shoulda “ratified” the Kyoto Protocol.
But hold on! Even in the face of the “planetary emergency” (a direct quote from today’s latest Gore pronunciamento), VP Gore’s administration failed to act!
“….The Clinton Administration never submitted the protocol to the Senate for ratification.”
Now why do you suppose that is? No, wait, never mind — I already know your answer. It was the invisible hand of the sinister neocons! They bound heroic Al to the rocks like Prometheus, even as he struggled (and still struggles) to bring fire to suffering mankind.
(Oops, a bad choice of analogies on my part — Prometheus released far too many carbon atoms into the atmosphere, being as he was the original “global warmer”. But — let’s stick with the classical. Say rather that Prince Al drives his environmental chariot across the skies like the sun god Apollo, bringing light to the darkness that is contemporary America!
There! We managed to use an environmentally and politically correct — but still classically vigorous — “solar” analogy. Much more soothing, wouldn’t you say?)
Rockies boy, I see that you have jumped on the Rockies Wagon.
I hope it’s not a fad to expire on Nov 1, 2007. Doesn’t have a SELL BY date, right?
Be fair. You weren’t sporting that until they were winning. And winning big. So, therefore, you have jumped on a wagon. I’m not judging you. I’m saying how it is. Just don’t jump off it, okay? In your heart, you know you care more about the Broncos.
Gore boy is just a facade.
Arafat, Mandela, Viet Cong general, the list goes on and on.
I agree with Richardson.
If Kim Jong Il pulled a peace move, Nobel Peace Prize commtt will give him a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE.
UAW is a selfish organization that has crippled Detroit for about 20 years and counting.
It is good for America that the UAW loses its hold completely on US auto manufacturers, and then, and only then would they have a chance to take back the lead from Toyota.
Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai’s US auto workers can’t belong in the UAW. But, they have plants in the southern US. They’re doing fine.
Here is a strange note: I got some spam from a company whose product I bought through Amazon.com but I never gave them my e-mail. Amazon.com supposedly claims they will never give away my information but apparently someone at Amazon certainly is doing so!
Isn’t there some sort of law about this sort of thing?
“Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai’s US auto workers can’t belong in the UAW. But, they have plants in the southern US. They’re doing fine.”
Hyundai’s plant isn’t doing fine. If you’ve been keeping up with recent events here, the plant has found itself idled. It has nothing to do with its workers not being UAW members. They just can’t seem to sell enough cars in a competitive and soon-to-be (already?) in recession market.
If you want to see some really screwed up auto unions, check out Kia and Hyundai Motors here in Korea. Striking - very often violent striking - is quite literally a yearly event, and even worse, the unions like to involve themselves in every political issue under the sun. You never see layoffs or plant closures of the scale of those in the US and Canada. Maybe if the UAW encouraged its members to assault execs, commit suicide, or firebomb police vehicles, this would change…
“Gore gets one for being the high priest of a daft environmental cult”
I wouldn’t be so quick to label those concerned with global warming as being members “of a daft environmental cult”. Even if some of those involved in the movement are a little on the strange side, what’s wrong with taking issue with how human beings have trashed our planet for the last couple of hundred years? Pollution is already biting much of the planet in the ass, and it stands to reason that something like global warming could too.
I guess some people once regarded warnings about the dangers of smoking with similar skepticism. However, I venture to guess that most of those original doubters have since been convinced that there may have been something to all the hype. You can still find the odd scientist/lobbyist who is willing to reserve himself a place in hell and go to bats for Marlboro and friends, but they are now a fringe minority. (I foolishly have the occasional smoke, but I’m not going to argue against overwhelming scientific evidence and claim it isn’t harmful!)
Actually, Gore WAS elected in 2000 (by 500,000 votes), Bush family cronies on the Supremem Court threw the election to Dubya by covering the Republican cheating in Florida. Gore biggest fault was not fighting that miscarriage. And notice who benefits from Bush’s ’strong economy?” Inequality is increasing in the US thanks to Bush’s tax cuts for the rich. Bush’s has been the most corrupt, mendacious, and venal administration in the history of the Republic. Why so many of you guys are happy to be led by such a moronic jerkoff is beyond me.
linkd. It is unfortunate for America’s medical schools, but I am a medical student.
3rd year.
Unfortunately, for America, I passed my Step 1, like 90% of my peers did, and most likely, I’ll pass Step 2 and 3 and heaven forbid, I’ll have a license.
Nope, sorry. Too preposterous. Can’t fathom it. You simply have TOO MUCH TIME. Every other med student I’ve known takes 2 weeks to answer a non-life-or-death email. And they’re smart.
“Nobel prizes are pretty much worthless. KDJ essentially purchased his, and no Gore gets one for being the high priest of a daft environmental cult.”
Worthless? I’m sure you wouldn’t mind having one.
There is nothing daft claiming that global warming is a threat. We were already discussing it in the late 80’s early 90’s, but then we thought that the change was due to a phenomenon of the natural carbon cycle. The theory was that there is a cyclic increase and decrease of the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere linked to deep water currents and water temperature in the oceans. The more the oceans get warmer, the more dissolved carbon dioxide they release (kind of like opening up a can of soda and leaving it in the sun). The more carbon dioxide is released, the more the atmospheric temperature is affected, which contributes to increasing the water temperature of the oceans. It’s a vicious cycle. Back then, scientists believe that the cycle took 75 years to be complete and that the atmospheric temperature should have plateaued in the early 90’s…but it hasn’t.
abcdefg, well before that you had bassist Ray Ahn of legendary Aussie punk band the Hardons who is of Korean ancestry. Here he is rocking out with Henry Rollins doing a cover of AC/DC’s ‘Let There Be Rock’.
Nobel Peace Prize, what a crock of shite. Exactly what he has done I cannot fathom, even more galling than the monumental draining of public money required to do this unknown thing in the first place.
“Democrats were up for the Iraq invasion as well. You seem to forget that Clinton and Kerry both signed on. The World Intel agencies all had the same conclusion. US, Russian, German, French, British, Italian, etc.”
Based on the fact that the majority of the US population believed the BS intel that the Bush government fabricated about the WMD, the ‘unpatriotic’ baiting that followed 9/11 (remember the Dixie Chicks?), I can see how they could have made that mistake. At least, they admit it was a mistake, the Bush government hasn’t.
It’s not really honest-to-God frothing if we have to have your permission first — but thanks anyway.
2) “Actually, Gore WAS elected in 2000 (by 500,000 votes)…”
I’ll see your 500,000 votes and raise you 2,500,000 (3 million popular votes being Bush’s margin of victory in 2004).
3) “Gore['s] biggest fault was not fighting that miscarriage…”
He did fight it, up to the Supreme Court. Exactly what do you contend Gore should have done after that decision went against him? Or is that too “moronic” a question for you to bother answering?
Gore could have come back and run again in 2004 — without having to win in Florida. The popular vote is not the determining factor, as I’m sure you already know; all Gore needed to do was carry the same states he had won in 2000, while making the additional effort this time to win his own home state of Tennessee.
I guess the planetary emergency had not yet reached critical mass in 2004 and making money was more important to Gore. Not that I really blame him; running for President is such an ordeal now that the lesser gods in the political pantheon will be able to summon the will for only one attempt at grasping the thunderbolt.
Gore may have gotten ripped off in Florida in 2000, but it should never have been that close in the first place. It was his election to lose. Why he didn’t take Clinton out on the campaign trail with him is something I’ll never understand. (Was Bill not willing or was Al too concerned with coming across as his own man?) It probably would have made the difference.
RE: #14: “Rockies boy, I see that you have jumped on the Rockies Wagon.
I hope it’s not a fad to expire on Nov 1, 2007. Doesn’t have a SELL BY date, right?
Be fair. You weren’t sporting that until they were winning. And winning big. So, therefore, you have jumped on a wagon. I’m not judging you. I’m saying how it is. Just don’t jump off it, okay? In your heart, you know you care more about the Broncos.”
wjk, not a rockies bandwagoner. back when i lived in the states in mid-90s, boulder (near denver) was home while i was in grad school at CU. i have been a suffering Rox fan since ‘93, so not a bandwagoner. just took a damn week for my gravatar to change from che&fidel.
and, yes, i love the broncos (and the nuggets and avalanche) and will never jump off any denver/colorado bandwagon.
I’d love to be the high priest of any cult. Seems there are sheep for the harvesting everywhere you look. It sounds easier than trying to wrangle English out of these kids…
WJK single, no kids, and still lives at home with his mommy.
#14 “I said it before, but I hate China. Perhaps more than the Japanese.”
Fantastic, glad you could bring your xenophobic ass to the States. Thanks for making it hard for the good Koreans. Yeah, heaven forbid you actually become a doctor, granted you might just lie about it, buy a fake degree, or better yet hang out at a Uni like Azia did.
I hope you choke (on you exams) like the Mets. Granted you’ll probably just cheat off one of you friends.
Some of you may remember my difficulties a month or so ago obtaining an F-2 visa. The weirdest thing happened. On our third attempt they finally accepted my application. They may have just been tired of my wife getting in their faces every two weeks or so. I was all buoyant, fairly sure that if they took it, all of the issues they’d had with my application had been absolved.
Of course, you always have doubts.
I went back after Chusok to pick up my passport, Alien Registration Card and the final verdict. I handed the lady the receipt and she went a few feet behind her to a desk, found my stuff as if they’d been waiting for me, and handed it to me. I checked my passport first and found that nothing had been altered. No evidence of an improved status. I looked at my card and it too looked the same. Still had my present hagwon and the big E-2 on the front. I was ready to raise a little hell and then I looked on the back. They’d imprinted F-5 on the back. I stood there dazed for a few minutes then tried to ask the girl if this was for real. She didn’t really get my concern. I tried a few other people there including the information desk and they all seemed puzzled by my inquiries. I guess they couldn’t imagine anybody getting an F-5 and having a beef with it. I suppose they’re right.
I’m still bewildered. I didn’t even apply for an F-5. And what constitutes an F-5? Shouldn’t it say something on my passport? Apparently, according to a recent article in the Times, I’m only about the 80th American to get one. I only have two weeks left at my present job, what then? I’m forever branded with their address on the only evidence of my new status? Shouldn’t there be some other piece of documentation for all this?
There’s a thing sponsored by the Seoul Help Center at ShiChung this Sunday. I’m thinking of asking them.
@ Maddlew, looks like you’re a permanent resident now. If you weren’t an F-2 holder previously–for 5 years apparently–you jumped the queue. You ought to hurry back to inform immigration of its mistake
Rockies just won 3-2 a few seconds ago (1145 PM PDT US).
3 up 3 down in the bottom of the 11th. In the top of the 11th the D-back closer walked three in a row (!) after an infield single (that was essentially an accidental bunt). That was the winning run.
Don’t usually follow baseball closely during the long season but I often get interested in the playoffs because you can see some really good games. The Rockies showed brilliant defensive play; the TV commentor said that this is the first time a playoff team has won its first 5 postseason games in a row since the 1976 Cincinnati Reds.
Ha Ha! Good one!
Yea, seouldout, I think they changed the F-2 to F-5 waiting period to two years but, certainly, I got a bump.
There’s a chance that they did it just so they would never encounter my wife again. It’s kinda funny. All my friends think she’s so sweet and demure.
The previous times we had these women who were there again this time, and whose turn it was to take us. However, they tried to busy themselves with nothing when they saw us waiting. The guy who opened up just after and took us looked up and had a look on his face that said perhaps our reputation preceded us. My wife got right in his face and said, “You asked us to do this and we did it. Then you told us to get this, here it is. This is the third time we’ve been in here. I think it’s time you did what you said you’d do.” The guy just started stamping things like crazy. He looked intimidated. I’ve never gotten that reaction from an official here.
So how is a global pseudo-scientific religious movement related to world peace? What are those Norskis smoking?
The world’s climate changes all the time, has been doing it since Day 1, and will continue to do so whether we walk this planet or not.
Remember the big threat of the 70s? The media were crying that we were on the cusp of a new ice age, because of mankind’s pollution. Sorry, but I don’t buy the crap.
I think I’ve figured out the problem. What native North Americans call a med student is someone who has actually been accepted into a medical college, and whose courses are credited toward an MD degree. A third-year undergrad in some bioscience discipline will sometimes be referred to as PRE-MED, but their courses are credited to a BS degree (wink). wjk has displayed about this level of knowledge of bioscience (during the interminable abortion argument during 추석). Korean overseas premed students often skip this distinction when asked what they’re studying.
Med school admission, in addition to MCAT scores, requires both a sane interview and a coherent essay. These two facts pretty much prove my doubts.
#40 - Congratulations on the F5 Maddlew! I have one - so does a friend of mine - and it makes life a lot easier here, especially when you are here with a wife and kid(s). Sounds like your wife really kicked some ass down there, and rightfully so.
Maddlew, both your ID card and passport should indicate the new F5 visa status. They wrote 영구 along with the new visa in my passport to indicate that I was here “eternally”. Both the visa in the passport and ID card can confuse people here occasionally because there is no expiration date. At banks or at places where you are cashing a check and need to show your ID, people initially might not know how to deal with it.
I deleted the blog because I am taking an online course this fall and will probably take another in the spring, so I got rid of a few distractions, including the blog.
@bum:
You must be the only commenter here who believes that wjk is a med student. Med students are busy. Consider how much time and how many posts wjk makes at the Hole, nevermind the level at which he thinks and communicates.
Well … it was inevitable, given that, for selecting Nobel Peace Prize winners, they’ve been (for some years now, perhaps since even before Arafat’s award) using the same algorithm…
bum, you should probably apply to your ASU and U Arizona programs. Score as high as possible on the MCAT, keep your GPA high as the sky, get those 3 letters, I’d say research worry about last, because they screen for MCAT and GPA.
I’m gunning for a good internal medicine program and specializing in hem/onc.
Idiot, it does say YeongKu on the back of my Alien Registration Card but nothing in my passport. Zilch, nada. Nothing new in my passport. That’s what worries me. What happens at airports? Well, what happens when I get a new job? I’ll always have a card that has the address and a reference to this present one which is soon to be obsolete. Certainly, my passport should somehow reflect my new status.
gray, don’t worry about it. Spend some time reading the threads and then join in. Try to avoid the personal attacks which some fall into. Reduce invective to a minimum. You’re going to see almost everything here but ridiculous behavior tends to get slapped. It’s sort of self policing but ocassionally the powers-that-be come in to stifle people. They usually deserve it.
Try to respond rather than react. That’s as good a piece of advice as I can muster. Do what you want. If you say something that strikes a nerve people will let you know. That isn’t necessarily bad. Alot is ignored.
I post mostly to vent. Most of what I say is ignored. Maybe I’m just too vanilla. It is cathartic, however. What you’ll see, read and hear on the peninsula will often leave you scratching your head. It helps to write about it even if you are just a tree falling in the woods.
That’s cool information. Thanks. As long as we’re hopping continents, did you know that the founder of modern rock music in China is a Korean? I forget his name though.
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Anyway, I already like jazz standards a lot and this Korean American guy is playing one of my faves with a colorfulness and a sensitivity to timbre that I don’t often see on youtube:
It’s late. The chicken is cold. Benny Goodman
has nothing in common with Al Gore. What did you expect from comment #62. Frankly, it all veered away within the top 10.
Although, I am “up and at em” this bright and promising day.
Open Comment - “Have a great day!”, you sleepy heads.
No, I would in fact not be happy to get a Nobel Peace Prize (assuming I did anything to deserve one) and be included with the likes of KDJ, Carter, Arafat (well maybe I do qualify!), and now Gore. The money would be great, but no thanks to that tainted prize. Really.
Based on the fact that the majority of the US population believed the BS intel that the Bush government fabricated about the WMD. . .
That is sooo tired. Bush did not give the Democrats the intel, CIA did. They had the same intel that the Republicans did. The ‘Bush lied’ mantra is pure revisionist BS. If Bush lied, so did every Democrat that made similar statements for the war, as well as the intel services of all first world countries;
“A zebra does not change its spots.” - Al Gore, attacking President George Bush in 1992.
Al Gore praising the Chicago Bulls: “I tell you that Michael Jackson is unbelievable, isn’t he. He’s just unbelievable.”
“$1 trillion is a million billion dollars”
The one person who would have been an even greater comedian than George Bush, and for my egocentric self-serving pleasure I would have LOVED to have him as president. More laughs. More wacky fun. Let the good times roll!
“That is sooo tired. Bush did not give the Democrats the intel, CIA did. They had the same intel that the Republicans did. The ‘Bush lied’ mantra is pure revisionist BS. If Bush lied, so did every Democrat that made similar statements for the war, as well as the intel services of all first world countries;”
No, Bush and co. gave everybody - Republicans, Democrats, and anybody else you can think of - the “spin” on the CIA’s intel.
You need to ask the following: First of all, was the CIA being encouraged or pressured to come up with intel to support the adminstration’s desired conclusions? Was the CIA’s intel not later manipulated by the administration to suggest that Iraq was actively engaged in a WMD program, thus providing an excuse for an invasion they were intent on carrying out? Is the CIA ever really in the position to dispute - especially in public - how its intel is possibly being twisted by an administration it serves?
I guess that deliberately emphasizing some of the most dubious pieces of intel while ignoring or downplaying more concrete evidence in one’s sales pitch for war isn’t outright lying, but most crooked salespeople don’t lie outright so much as bend the truth, sometimes to the point where it can no longer be seen.
“Read the PDF I posted (no, I didn’t write it - a Clinton era CIA analyst did).”
I did read it. Some very good points are made. Please, reread my post. I never claimed Bush made it all up or that they directly gave anybody the intel. I wrote that they took the CIA intel, especially the parts that looked appealing to them, and spun it to fit their desired conclusions.
“You people are getting sucked into your own revisionist fantasies.”
The biggest revisionist fantasy about the whole unfortunate event is that now we’ve still got a war, but the original excuse for starting one - WMD - has been replaced with new reasons - democracy, freedom, fighting Al Qaeda, etc.
I guess that I expect a little more from the “good guys”. I haven’t given up, but it is disappointing.
My buddy applied for his F-5, the clerk was impressed by his ability to use a few basic sentences in Korean. Gets a phone call two weeks later,”Your paperwork for your Korean citizenship is ready”.
#44,
LOL. My wife once made a cop cry because he had been rude to us. Long story, but the guy had been rude to me/us because I’m a ‘foreigner’.
#57,
Don’t worry about the airport. Your visa is in their database. Besides, you should have your alien registration card with you. You can always ask them to print you a new card with the F-5 printed in the front if it makes you feel better.
I am planning to do a lot of travelling in the next couple of years.
To fully enjoy those gains you’ll be limited to the States and those countries that peg their respective currencies to the US dollar, ex. Venezuela, Panama, Eritrea, Saudi Arabia.
#57 and #69, It seems like F-5s are handled a little differently from officer to officee (or from office to office - mine was done in Incheon). My visa in the passport is F-5 with “영구” added in pen. My Alien ID Card has F-5 on the front, but no extra “영구” stipulation added to the back. Neither has an expiry date, which seems reasonably as the visa in question is supposed to be permanent. As someguy wrote, I also think that the visa in the passport is supposed to trump the card (which, according to some, may not be essential for some visa holders these days) at the airport, so Maddlew might want to consider having something added to his actual passport to be safe. Always a pain in the ass to head down to an Immigration office, but better safe than sorry, right?
Yeah, I could head on back to immigration but then I’m sort of manifesting seouldout’s joke from #42.
My wife says I should shut-up and quit worrying. If they did indeed issue an F-5 to me it will be in their computer data-base. I just don’t want to go to the airport one day and they insist on confiscating my card because of the expiration date on the E-2 on the front which has been their standard procedure to this point.
I’ll work it out. Thanks everyone for your input and advice. I guess I’m not a tree falling in the woods.
Oh, and wjk, I believe you, dude. To quote John Huston in Chinatown, “In the right circumstances, a man is capable of almost anything.”
Hey, and that’s good news that you haven’t had to do any pap smears on men.
“Idiot, it does say YeongKu on the back of my Alien Registration Card but nothing in my passport. Zilch, nada. Nothing new in my passport. That’s what worries me. What happens at airports? Well, what happens when I get a new job? I’ll always have a card that has the address and a reference to this present one which is soon to be obsolete. Certainly, my passport should somehow reflect my new status.”
Maddlew, don’t worry about it not being stamped in your passport. Besides my very first E2, I’ve never had my passport stamped. A few years back when I first renewed my F2, it was merely indicated by the new date in a space on the back of the alien card. I was worried about going through immi at airports too, but have never had a problem. And if anyone looks confused, I point to the F2 note written in felt marker and to the renewal date below and it’s been all fine. You just must always have your alien card with you for such things.
“The biggest revisionist fantasy about the whole unfortunate event is that now we’ve still got a war, but the original excuse for starting one - WMD - has been replaced with new reasons - democracy, freedom, fighting Al Qaeda, etc.”
These were always a part of the reasoning for going to war from the beginning. According to Friedman, the Bush admin chose to focus on the WDM as being an easier way to sell the war to the public (many are not so keen on using war to promote democracy/freedom in distant lands, myself included). And I always believed from the beginning that it was all about reshaping the situation in the Middle East, with the US ‘in’ there, as Friedman also talked about long before the war began.
Thanks Snow, everybody’s been alot of help. There’s always that voice in your head that says things are too good to be true. So you wait for the gnome to come out of an unmarked door to bap you on the head with a Louisville Slugger. I don’t think the gnome’s there this time.
That said, baduk, there is absolutely no reason to drive 40 miles to a mall in a 6000 lb truck with an eight litre V-8 under the hood to buy a gallon of milk. As much as it enriches my country, it also enriches America’s so called “enemies” and finances their “terrorism.”
Our “conservative” government recently started taxing big SUVs to the tune of $4000 Canadian Dollars a shot if they consume more than 18l/100km. It is a revenue neutral programme, in that if you buy a car with a rating of less than 7l/100km you get a rebate of $2000. It is not nearly enough but a good start. Hybrids are good for $4500 in rebates in British Columbia.
I would prefer if we in Canada adopted a taxation system similar to that of Eorope, where a Cadillac STS, for example, would be taxed at a rate of $30,000 a year. But we haven’t come that far yet. Started at least, though.
wjk is right: I have made myself ridiculous. What on earth am I doing spouting off on the internet with assertions that can’t be proven? wjk: I owe you an apology. While my intention was not “wjk is a liar” (which would state a certainty) so much as “it is unlikely that his claim is true” (a belief). I certainly implied the first, and am sorry for that. Unable to prove my belief, I must of course admit the possibility that you are a med student.
I believe that patients want doctors who speak from a position of knowledge and sound judgement, not ideology. I believe that patients want to be listened to, not lectured at. I believe that patients appreciate doctors who do not position themselves as experts on everything. I believe that patients appreciate clarity more than misdirection, and I believe that when patients have opinions different from their doctors’, that they prefer to be met with rational reasoning rather than mockery.
And I believe that med schools are usually very good at selecting such people.
I don’t know how much less free we are than you, baduk, but there is certainly nothing like a “Patriot Act” or an “Office of Homeland Security.” And don’t come back with the “All the terrorists come from Canada” crap because you know it is not true. All of the 9-11 highjackers were in the USA legally and 15 of them were your Saudi “allies.”
Personally, I am all in favour of American people driving SUVs at 75mph and financing people in houses they cannot afford. The more the better. Those SUV are filled with Canadian gas and the houses built with Canadian wood.
Here’s to a GOP win in 2008! You can continue starting and fighting wars you cannot win while buying up our commodities to make the weapons.
baduk, I was taught the same thing when I was a biochemistry major in an environmental chemistry course. But the Prof said global warming THEORY may have some validity.
Kimchipig, if you are going south, and spending money on US stores, didn’t Bush ultimately cause you to spend your income in the US of A? You might want to cancel travel plans. I assume you’re not traveling to Europe.
Linkd, I consider myself a professional of professionals. Gong and Sa, Public and Private, I clearly separate.
@ sonagi
*shrug* benefit of the doubt + possibility of good time management. Also, difference of opinion does not mean difference in intelligence.
@ wjk
appreciate the advice… research experience doesn’t have significant weight in your opinion?
@ baduk
“We let people do anything they want. Drive 75 miles per hour in their SUV. Just feel the breeze. As long as they can pay for it.”
Except in the residential/school area.
I don’t know how true global warming hypothesis (wjk, wouldn’t calling it a scientific theory give near-100% validity?) is, not having taken any ecology/environmental science courses (and probably won’t)… But you know, I don’t think reducing CO2 emission could hurt - gotta find that magical solution to approaching fuel crisis sooner or later…
*shrug* benefit of the doubt + possibility of good time management. Also, difference of opinion does not mean difference in intelligence.
Ordinarily, I, too, take personal background and experiential claims at face value, but wjk’s absurd insistence that he is a med student is laughably rejected by almost everyone here. We scoff at his wild fantasies not because we disagree with him on most issues but because his posts and English language usage are not indicative of someone highly educated and intelligent. The joker smilingly professes to have given pap smears, but not to Muslim women or men, and is going to do a 6-wk ob-byn internship before he specializes in internal medicine. Does this make sense to you? He boasts of an IVY league degree, but read his fukn posts. Does he write like one? Honest to pete, bum, I have fourth grade ESL students who write more sophisticated English than he does. I’m not talking about his rabid political thoughts but his English usage.
If you would actually entertain the notion that he is an Ivy League grad and med student, please post your email address, and I’ll sell it to some Nigerian spammers for a cut of the money they fleece out of you.
sonagi, lady, all 3rd year med students have to do family medicine, peds, ob-gyn, internal medicine, psych, surgery clerkships, with electives, and it’s called a rotation. There are 4th year rotations, too.
What I was talking about was getting a residency in internal medicine.
doesn’t register, right? I don’t think it does. I don’t expect it to.
FYI, when I took my MCAT, I got a O in Writing. AP Writing exams? 4’s and 5’s. Did fine with the SAT 1 and 2. By the way, they say Writing is the least important section on the old MCAT I took. Verbal, Bio Sci, Phy Sci, way more important.
Sonagi, you better fight your life against Nicklby. Bush is holding you guys accountable, so that public school graduates can actually demonstrate they can read, write, and do arrthimetic.
You’re an English teacher? Really? All my teachers loved my writing. My high school teacher loved me.
I’m not exactly writing for a grade here, am I?
Yeah, I’ve done the digital rectal exam on countless men, too. What I can tell you is that a lot of guys think it’s okay to wipe their butt cracks and not wash their hands. And then, they want to shake your hands afterwards. Wash your hands, people. I always wash mine, and almost never touch my face.
Muslim women usually don’t want men to examine them. Why come to America, then?
buminkorea, yeah, it’s probably a hypothesis, not a theory. That was the perspective from the environmental chemist, and probably another environmental chemist who taught the same thing to baduk.
GPA and MCAT, that’s how they screen out.
Medical research, physician shadowing, medically related volunteer work, that’s additional stuff.
If you had the additional stuff without the MCAT and GPA to put you in the game in the first place, then you’re not in the game. Unless you pulled out the minority card. You don’t have it, by birth. How unfair is that?
that said, you want to have done a little bit of all the additional stuff prior to your med school interview, so you can talk about it.
to put it another way, you can do the additional stuff later, and it’s not graded. If you publish your research, fantastic !
MCAT, GPA, you get a number. GPA becomes resistant to change after a few quarters or semesters.
if you’re really bright and going also for the PhD, by all means do the research as long as it doesn’t interfere with your GPA.
You need to.
if you’re doing research or volunteering, and your GPA is dropping, then stop doing that stuff and concentrate on your grades.
It is true that med students complete rotations, but how is it that you are going to begin an ob/gyn rotation and you’ve already given pap smears. Oh, let me guess. You enjoyed poking a cold, steel speculum into a woman’s nook and cranny so much as a third year student that you decided to repeat the rotation in your fourth year.
Sounds like you’ve picked up a lot of details about med school from your smart cousin with a bright future.
Hey WJK, where did you do your first year elective? Next fortnight I am heading to Severance Hospital to do mine.
Also I heard you don’t start seeing patients and learning physical examinations till 2nd year, is that true? (at my australian uni we start first year, the only point of value for the school really is it’s clinical traning program)
And when can you sit the UMLE, I’ve heard after 2nd year, but that seems ridiculous? In fairness we don’t have a licensing exam, but we do have exams to get into whatever college(speciality) we select and then a fair amount of assessment to get through to finish our registrar years.
@ Sonagi: everything you here about med students is created by med students for sympathy it is really just normal uni by about 130%, not so much of a step up, infact 3rd but particulalry 4th years have been said to be almost holidays (9-5 really with maybe an hour or two of study a night). And everything WJK says checks out. Maybe it’s because no one wants to be a doctor in Australia because plumbers get paid as much as non-specialist, but they let anyone in here, infact we have about 30 Canadians in a class of 370 (which is a stupid number of students for a med school). Infact we have a guy that has been convicted of a misdemeanour of attempted sexual abuse of a minor that has still not been kicked out (judges discretion). Compared to that WJK is a saint.
@ Bum from Korea, if at first you don’t suceed, come to Australia. Our clinical training is on par with North America, our lecturers are poorly organised and rarely relevant though. But we let anyone in!!!! And it is only AU$42,000 (indexed at CPI). We have a fair amount of Americans and Canadians that just missed out because of the hypercomopetiveness of med school entry in North America.
Maddlew, while I don’t have an F5 visa and never will, I have have several resident cards updated on the back with changes that included once change of status [E-7 to D-8], and never had a problem. At least not those you envision. Since E-7 was printed on the front, I spent my last year in Korea telling, at Immigration in IIA, “아닙니다. D−８입니다. 뒷면 보세요…” Never once did an immigration dude [or dudine] check the back. I guess you’ll have to do the same… until you get a new card [which is a good idea I think].
Man, I love liberals. Every liberal guy I know drives his Prius into his driveway and then starts up the grill and then glares at my non-hybrid vehicle. What a bunch of hypocrites–and gutless. Global warming-huh. We had about a hundred or so ice ages before the arrival of man did we not? Well then, I guess the Earth gets colder and warmer all on its own you pancake eating liberals.
Kimchipig, if you are going south, and spending money on US stores, didn’t Bush ultimately cause you to spend your income in the US of A? You might want to cancel travel plans. I assume you’re not traveling to Europe.
Does this actually make sense? Cancel travel plans? I was in the USA yesterday to play golf.
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Pathetic. First Carter, now this. And I’m a Bush-hater.
Nobel prizes are pretty much worthless. KDJ essentially purchased his, and no Gore gets one for being the high priest of a daft environmental cult. At this rate they’ll give one to KJI after a peace treaty is concluded.
I was disappointed when America elected ‘charismatic’ George Bush instead of sensible Al Gore in 2000. If Al Gore had been elected, we wouldn’t have Iraqi War, America would have signed the Kyoto Protocol, and the dollar would be worth more than what it is now. I’m glad he won the Nobel Prize.
bullshit, babarian.
Democrats were up for the Iraq invasion as well. You seem to forget that Clinton and Kerry both signed on. The World Intel agencies all had the same conclusion. US, Russian, German, French, British, Italian, etc.
Weak dollar does not mean a weak economy.
People would love to forget that George W. Bush pulled the world and the USA out of a recession with !gasp! “TAX CUTS”, and low interest rates.
Oh, my God !
You mean, home ownership, stock values increased and unemployment decreased WHILE Bush was President and WHILE there is a 2 front war being handled with less EU and international support than the Vietnam War and the Korean War and even World War II?
No, way, WJK, you lying Neo-Con !
WJK: What exactly is a Neo-Con?
KAs in American Indie rock:
From Masses to Monuments (playing live in Osaka, Japan):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HOCYcwlDE4
(the drummer is Korean)
VHS Or Beta playing live for Conan O’Brien Show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QChbt5SrJRU
(the lead singer is Korean)
Correction: “From Monuments to Masses”
Al Gore deserved it. And if he would only run, I would vote for him for Pres.
One thing IS for sure….America and the world would be a LOT better off if Gore had entered the White House instead of Bush in 2001.
Richardson, “daft environmental cult”? Have you even WATCHED “An Inconvenient Truth”?? Exactly what was DAFT about it? Oh, but wait, you’re the same guy who once implied on another thread on this blog that global warming, if the phenomenon even existed, wasn’t caused by human activities.
Amazing the denial and ignorance that some Republicans are STILL exhibiting about global warming.
JK, without Bush’s taxcuts, this world would have gone thru a major recession. The bull market with Clinton’s cycle was over, and compound that with 911, increasing costs of business and bankrupting airlines, the world as we know it SHOULD HAVE been thru at least 10 years of recession without someone, someone smart at the position of US President doing something the Democrats would NEVER do.
Tax cuts.
Tax CUTS?
Yeah, tax cuts.
This has been played around and spinned around in many circles, branding it another way to make the rich, richer.
Really?
Well, don’t question the results, my friend.
My misguided friend.
There is a big difference when I put on that “w” in front of my name. It’s like a badge.
Look at everything the Dems are talking about. Canceling those tax cuts is a GIVEN.
Raising more taxes is a GIVEN.
They spin this around by saying we’re only taking from people making $200K +.
That’s a spin.
You know why?
I’ll tell you. Or you can read one of Robert Kiyosaki’s economics for dummies series. Middle class always pays the heart of govt revenue. It’s impossible to fill the need just by tapping on the few % who really make it big. Impossible. Mathematically and realistically.
They’re gonna go after property taxes, sales taxes, state income taxes, you name it. You watch.
They’re already doing that.
Just yesterday, Chicago Mayor Daly announced his project for the city, and it definately guaranttees a tax raise all around Chicago. Property, sales, most likely fuel, maybe your cable and phone bill, I mean they’ll find a way to take a % out of every orifice in your life.
Thus, I come to this logical conclusion that Republicans will be around forever. FOREVER.
because people will FOREVER become sick of a certain amount of socialism and high taxes.
global warming’s culprit is one. Only ONE.
China.
that’s it, really.
US has been reducing emissions.
They signed no treaty, but it’s night and day from what a industrial factory town looks like between USA and China.
Stop the Spin. Did you see dirty China in Al Gore’s movie, JK?
I think I’ll rent that movie tonight. And if I don’t see one word of China mentioned, I’ll never believe a word you say.
oh, holy shit, do you mean to tell me that, NOW, the nobel peace prize has, too, been rendered an overrated piece of crap?
that’s just too much bad news for me to handle this time of night after this much to drink….
more later.
That ship sailed long ago when they gave it to Yasser Arafat.
# 9,
ONLY China? Well, China is the largest total producer of greenhouse gases, but the responsibility is squarely on all developed and developing nations that use fossil fuels.
Per the Christian Science Monitor to say it’s only China is much too simplistic. Americans still produce the most greenhouse gases per capita.
#3 babarian:
“…I was disappointed when America elected ‘charismatic’ George Bush instead of sensible Al Gore in 2000. If Al Gore had been elected…America would have signed the Kyoto Protocol…”
Actually, babarian, the US did “sign” the Kyoto Protocol. None other than your hero VP Gore actually executed the physical signing:
“…On November 12, 1998, Vice President Al Gore symbolically signed the protocol. Both Gore and Senator Joseph Lieberman indicated that the protocol would not be acted upon in the Senate until there was participation by the developing nations….”
However, I think what you meant to say is that the US coulda/ woulda/ shoulda “ratified” the Kyoto Protocol.
But hold on! Even in the face of the “planetary emergency” (a direct quote from today’s latest Gore pronunciamento), VP Gore’s administration failed to act!
“….The Clinton Administration never submitted the protocol to the Senate for ratification.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.....ted_States
Now why do you suppose that is? No, wait, never mind — I already know your answer. It was the invisible hand of the sinister neocons! They bound heroic Al to the rocks like Prometheus, even as he struggled (and still struggles) to bring fire to suffering mankind.
(Oops, a bad choice of analogies on my part — Prometheus released far too many carbon atoms into the atmosphere, being as he was the original “global warmer”. But — let’s stick with the classical. Say rather that Prince Al drives his environmental chariot across the skies like the sun god Apollo, bringing light to the darkness that is contemporary America!
There! We managed to use an environmentally and politically correct — but still classically vigorous — “solar” analogy. Much more soothing, wouldn’t you say?)
wangkon, I’m talking about what IS responsible for the CHANGE.
What changed since say, 1997?
Are we driving more gas guzzlers?
We did. From 1997 to 2001, hell yeah, we did. What do I mean by we?
THEY DID. I was driving a 1.6 liter that sucked ass in acceleration.
Clearly, clearly, clearly, the change is due to China.
China needs to clean up, instead of making up excuses.
People in Korea have suffered far longer and earlier for polluted Chinese products.
The US suffers with some lead toys, dog and cat food that kills dog and cats, and there is an uproar, and China finally reacts.
I hate China.
I said it before, but I hate China. Perhaps more than the Japanese.
Paul H. That was great.
Rockies boy, I see that you have jumped on the Rockies Wagon.
I hope it’s not a fad to expire on Nov 1, 2007. Doesn’t have a SELL BY date, right?
Be fair. You weren’t sporting that until they were winning. And winning big. So, therefore, you have jumped on a wagon. I’m not judging you. I’m saying how it is. Just don’t jump off it, okay? In your heart, you know you care more about the Broncos.
Gore boy is just a facade.
Arafat, Mandela, Viet Cong general, the list goes on and on.
I agree with Richardson.
If Kim Jong Il pulled a peace move, Nobel Peace Prize commtt will give him a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE.
I’ve been chirping about this for years.
Nobel peace prize = Political prize.
Hey, be fair, Europe. Give one to George W. Bush.
Viva, Bush !
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....pr_wh/bush
UAW is a selfish organization that has crippled Detroit for about 20 years and counting.
It is good for America that the UAW loses its hold completely on US auto manufacturers, and then, and only then would they have a chance to take back the lead from Toyota.
Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai’s US auto workers can’t belong in the UAW. But, they have plants in the southern US. They’re doing fine.
Detroit is reeling and crime is rising.
The Mets are liberals… ones that suck, at that.
Here is a strange note: I got some spam from a company whose product I bought through Amazon.com but I never gave them my e-mail. Amazon.com supposedly claims they will never give away my information but apparently someone at Amazon certainly is doing so!
Isn’t there some sort of law about this sort of thing?
How old are you wjk?
I’ve wondered the same thing, WangKon.
I’m in the 25-30 age bracket. Single. No children.
wjk never lies.
The part I love is his claim to be a med student. If that’s true, then Richardson is out campaigning door to door for Hilary right now.
“Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai’s US auto workers can’t belong in the UAW. But, they have plants in the southern US. They’re doing fine.”
Hyundai’s plant isn’t doing fine. If you’ve been keeping up with recent events here, the plant has found itself idled. It has nothing to do with its workers not being UAW members. They just can’t seem to sell enough cars in a competitive and soon-to-be (already?) in recession market.
If you want to see some really screwed up auto unions, check out Kia and Hyundai Motors here in Korea. Striking - very often violent striking - is quite literally a yearly event, and even worse, the unions like to involve themselves in every political issue under the sun. You never see layoffs or plant closures of the scale of those in the US and Canada. Maybe if the UAW encouraged its members to assault execs, commit suicide, or firebomb police vehicles, this would change…
“Gore gets one for being the high priest of a daft environmental cult”
I wouldn’t be so quick to label those concerned with global warming as being members “of a daft environmental cult”. Even if some of those involved in the movement are a little on the strange side, what’s wrong with taking issue with how human beings have trashed our planet for the last couple of hundred years? Pollution is already biting much of the planet in the ass, and it stands to reason that something like global warming could too.
I guess some people once regarded warnings about the dangers of smoking with similar skepticism. However, I venture to guess that most of those original doubters have since been convinced that there may have been something to all the hype. You can still find the odd scientist/lobbyist who is willing to reserve himself a place in hell and go to bats for Marlboro and friends, but they are now a fringe minority. (I foolishly have the occasional smoke, but I’m not going to argue against overwhelming scientific evidence and claim it isn’t harmful!)
Actually, Gore WAS elected in 2000 (by 500,000 votes), Bush family cronies on the Supremem Court threw the election to Dubya by covering the Republican cheating in Florida. Gore biggest fault was not fighting that miscarriage. And notice who benefits from Bush’s ’strong economy?” Inequality is increasing in the US thanks to Bush’s tax cuts for the rich. Bush’s has been the most corrupt, mendacious, and venal administration in the history of the Republic. Why so many of you guys are happy to be led by such a moronic jerkoff is beyond me.
Let the right wing mouth-frothing continue!
linkd. It is unfortunate for America’s medical schools, but I am a medical student.
3rd year.
Unfortunately, for America, I passed my Step 1, like 90% of my peers did, and most likely, I’ll pass Step 2 and 3 and heaven forbid, I’ll have a license.
Believe it.
Nope, sorry. Too preposterous. Can’t fathom it. You simply have TOO MUCH TIME. Every other med student I’ve known takes 2 weeks to answer a non-life-or-death email. And they’re smart.
“Nobel prizes are pretty much worthless. KDJ essentially purchased his, and no Gore gets one for being the high priest of a daft environmental cult.”
Worthless? I’m sure you wouldn’t mind having one.
There is nothing daft claiming that global warming is a threat. We were already discussing it in the late 80’s early 90’s, but then we thought that the change was due to a phenomenon of the natural carbon cycle. The theory was that there is a cyclic increase and decrease of the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere linked to deep water currents and water temperature in the oceans. The more the oceans get warmer, the more dissolved carbon dioxide they release (kind of like opening up a can of soda and leaving it in the sun). The more carbon dioxide is released, the more the atmospheric temperature is affected, which contributes to increasing the water temperature of the oceans. It’s a vicious cycle. Back then, scientists believe that the cycle took 75 years to be complete and that the atmospheric temperature should have plateaued in the early 90’s…but it hasn’t.
abcdefg, well before that you had bassist Ray Ahn of legendary Aussie punk band the Hardons who is of Korean ancestry. Here he is rocking out with Henry Rollins doing a cover of AC/DC’s ‘Let There Be Rock’.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mPNtLZWE6AQ
Nobel Peace Prize, what a crock of shite. Exactly what he has done I cannot fathom, even more galling than the monumental draining of public money required to do this unknown thing in the first place.
“Democrats were up for the Iraq invasion as well. You seem to forget that Clinton and Kerry both signed on. The World Intel agencies all had the same conclusion. US, Russian, German, French, British, Italian, etc.”
Based on the fact that the majority of the US population believed the BS intel that the Bush government fabricated about the WMD, the ‘unpatriotic’ baiting that followed 9/11 (remember the Dixie Chicks?), I can see how they could have made that mistake. At least, they admit it was a mistake, the Bush government hasn’t.
Ref #24 kunsanpcv:
1) “Let the right wing mouth-frothing continue!”
It’s not really honest-to-God frothing if we have to have your permission first — but thanks anyway.
2) “Actually, Gore WAS elected in 2000 (by 500,000 votes)…”
I’ll see your 500,000 votes and raise you 2,500,000 (3 million popular votes being Bush’s margin of victory in 2004).
3) “Gore['s] biggest fault was not fighting that miscarriage…”
He did fight it, up to the Supreme Court. Exactly what do you contend Gore should have done after that decision went against him? Or is that too “moronic” a question for you to bother answering?
Gore could have come back and run again in 2004 — without having to win in Florida. The popular vote is not the determining factor, as I’m sure you already know; all Gore needed to do was carry the same states he had won in 2000, while making the additional effort this time to win his own home state of Tennessee.
I guess the planetary emergency had not yet reached critical mass in 2004 and making money was more important to Gore. Not that I really blame him; running for President is such an ordeal now that the lesser gods in the political pantheon will be able to summon the will for only one attempt at grasping the thunderbolt.
Gore may have gotten ripped off in Florida in 2000, but it should never have been that close in the first place. It was his election to lose. Why he didn’t take Clinton out on the campaign trail with him is something I’ll never understand. (Was Bill not willing or was Al too concerned with coming across as his own man?) It probably would have made the difference.
Paul H., what’s with all the Greek god metaphors?
Barbarian:
“If Al Gore had been elected, we wouldn’t have Iraqi War,”
wjk:
“bullshit, babarian. Democrats were up for the Iraq invasion as well. You seem to forget that Clinton and Kerry both signed on.”
wjk, even before the invasion of Iraq in 2003, Al Gore was one of the most vocal opponents against it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....92302.html
RE: #14: “Rockies boy, I see that you have jumped on the Rockies Wagon.
I hope it’s not a fad to expire on Nov 1, 2007. Doesn’t have a SELL BY date, right?
Be fair. You weren’t sporting that until they were winning. And winning big. So, therefore, you have jumped on a wagon. I’m not judging you. I’m saying how it is. Just don’t jump off it, okay? In your heart, you know you care more about the Broncos.”
wjk, not a rockies bandwagoner. back when i lived in the states in mid-90s, boulder (near denver) was home while i was in grad school at CU. i have been a suffering Rox fan since ‘93, so not a bandwagoner. just took a damn week for my gravatar to change from che&fidel.
and, yes, i love the broncos (and the nuggets and avalanche) and will never jump off any denver/colorado bandwagon.
Sonagi, why did you close the site down?
because her blog was full of misinformation.
Linkd, I don’t lie.
I don’t need to prove it to you, either.
You are Korean. If I knew your face personally, I would even be comfortable with allowing you to log in and check my Step 1 score.
but, I won’t. You’re just a stranger to me as well.
the truth smiles upon wjk.
I’d love to be the high priest of any cult. Seems there are sheep for the harvesting everywhere you look. It sounds easier than trying to wrangle English out of these kids…
WJK single, no kids, and still lives at home with his mommy.
#14 “I said it before, but I hate China. Perhaps more than the Japanese.”
Fantastic, glad you could bring your xenophobic ass to the States. Thanks for making it hard for the good Koreans. Yeah, heaven forbid you actually become a doctor, granted you might just lie about it, buy a fake degree, or better yet hang out at a Uni like Azia did.
I hope you choke (on you exams) like the Mets. Granted you’ll probably just cheat off one of you friends.
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Some of you may remember my difficulties a month or so ago obtaining an F-2 visa. The weirdest thing happened. On our third attempt they finally accepted my application. They may have just been tired of my wife getting in their faces every two weeks or so. I was all buoyant, fairly sure that if they took it, all of the issues they’d had with my application had been absolved.
Of course, you always have doubts.
I went back after Chusok to pick up my passport, Alien Registration Card and the final verdict. I handed the lady the receipt and she went a few feet behind her to a desk, found my stuff as if they’d been waiting for me, and handed it to me. I checked my passport first and found that nothing had been altered. No evidence of an improved status. I looked at my card and it too looked the same. Still had my present hagwon and the big E-2 on the front. I was ready to raise a little hell and then I looked on the back. They’d imprinted F-5 on the back. I stood there dazed for a few minutes then tried to ask the girl if this was for real. She didn’t really get my concern. I tried a few other people there including the information desk and they all seemed puzzled by my inquiries. I guess they couldn’t imagine anybody getting an F-5 and having a beef with it. I suppose they’re right.
I’m still bewildered. I didn’t even apply for an F-5. And what constitutes an F-5? Shouldn’t it say something on my passport? Apparently, according to a recent article in the Times, I’m only about the 80th American to get one. I only have two weeks left at my present job, what then? I’m forever branded with their address on the only evidence of my new status? Shouldn’t there be some other piece of documentation for all this?
There’s a thing sponsored by the Seoul Help Center at ShiChung this Sunday. I’m thinking of asking them.
I guess this is kinda off topic (well, I guess you can’t be off topic in an open thread…)
Wjk, which way are you thinking about going after med school, and any advice for med school hopeful? ^^
Al Gore…typical. Kinda hope he runs again only to see him lose once more. Anyway, really only care about tonight’s England - France match. Here are some highlights from previous matches.
@ Maddlew, looks like you’re a permanent resident now. If you weren’t an F-2 holder previously–for 5 years apparently–you jumped the queue. You ought to hurry back to inform immigration of its mistake
Rockies just won 3-2 a few seconds ago (1145 PM PDT US).
3 up 3 down in the bottom of the 11th. In the top of the 11th the D-back closer walked three in a row (!) after an infield single (that was essentially an accidental bunt). That was the winning run.
Don’t usually follow baseball closely during the long season but I often get interested in the playoffs because you can see some really good games. The Rockies showed brilliant defensive play; the TV commentor said that this is the first time a playoff team has won its first 5 postseason games in a row since the 1976 Cincinnati Reds.
Ha Ha! Good one!
Yea, seouldout, I think they changed the F-2 to F-5 waiting period to two years but, certainly, I got a bump.
There’s a chance that they did it just so they would never encounter my wife again. It’s kinda funny. All my friends think she’s so sweet and demure.
The previous times we had these women who were there again this time, and whose turn it was to take us. However, they tried to busy themselves with nothing when they saw us waiting. The guy who opened up just after and took us looked up and had a look on his face that said perhaps our reputation preceded us. My wife got right in his face and said, “You asked us to do this and we did it. Then you told us to get this, here it is. This is the third time we’ve been in here. I think it’s time you did what you said you’d do.” The guy just started stamping things like crazy. He looked intimidated. I’ve never gotten that reaction from an official here.
So how is a global pseudo-scientific religious movement related to world peace? What are those Norskis smoking?
The world’s climate changes all the time, has been doing it since Day 1, and will continue to do so whether we walk this planet or not.
Remember the big threat of the 70s? The media were crying that we were on the cusp of a new ice age, because of mankind’s pollution. Sorry, but I don’t buy the crap.
wjk’s rambling, incoherent, self-referential, fundie schtick was far less annoying when it was called baduk.
At least he had some unintentional comedy mixed into his paranoid ranting.
Hello
It’s my first time posting here.
Are there any rules and regulations that I must stick to?
I think I’ve figured out the problem. What native North Americans call a med student is someone who has actually been accepted into a medical college, and whose courses are credited toward an MD degree. A third-year undergrad in some bioscience discipline will sometimes be referred to as PRE-MED, but their courses are credited to a BS degree (wink). wjk has displayed about this level of knowledge of bioscience (during the interminable abortion argument during 추석). Korean overseas premed students often skip this distinction when asked what they’re studying.
Med school admission, in addition to MCAT scores, requires both a sane interview and a coherent essay. These two facts pretty much prove my doubts.
PS: I am, in fact, not Korean.
#40 - Congratulations on the F5 Maddlew! I have one - so does a friend of mine - and it makes life a lot easier here, especially when you are here with a wife and kid(s). Sounds like your wife really kicked some ass down there, and rightfully so.
Maddlew, both your ID card and passport should indicate the new F5 visa status. They wrote 영구 along with the new visa in my passport to indicate that I was here “eternally”. Both the visa in the passport and ID card can confuse people here occasionally because there is no expiration date. At banks or at places where you are cashing a check and need to show your ID, people initially might not know how to deal with it.
@Sumo:
I deleted the blog because I am taking an online course this fall and will probably take another in the spring, so I got rid of a few distractions, including the blog.
@bum:
You must be the only commenter here who believes that wjk is a med student. Med students are busy. Consider how much time and how many posts wjk makes at the Hole, nevermind the level at which he thinks and communicates.
Well … it was inevitable, given that, for selecting Nobel Peace Prize winners, they’ve been (for some years now, perhaps since even before Arafat’s award) using the same algorithm…
Jeffery Hodges
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linkd, you’re ridiculous.
Pre-med?
No, no, my friend.
I am busy.
So what is it to you, if I write a few words here and there? I don’t watch any tv.
I don’t have one.
You know there are doctors who have a different stance on abortion.
Why are you asking a med student for a life or death situation?
You want a FREE second opinion from a person who doesn’t have a medical license?
I’m a little older than the avg med student.
MCAT, GPA, medical laboratory research, I even have a MS from a IVY league school for crying out loud.
It’s pretty much school policy for us to pass our first Step 1 boards to be able to see patients.
Believe it or not, and sucks for you, and reality smiles for me, I’ll be doing my OB-GYN clerkship for the next 6 weeks.
Oh my God ! WJK is allowed to do this crap !
Call the police !
Why?
sonagi, you’re a teacher and a writer?
Wow. How many times have you been WRONG about telling apart a WRITER’s VOICE?
Ha ha ha.
bum, you should probably apply to your ASU and U Arizona programs. Score as high as possible on the MCAT, keep your GPA high as the sky, get those 3 letters, I’d say research worry about last, because they screen for MCAT and GPA.
I’m gunning for a good internal medicine program and specializing in hem/onc.
Same shit(head), different day.
Idiot, it does say YeongKu on the back of my Alien Registration Card but nothing in my passport. Zilch, nada. Nothing new in my passport. That’s what worries me. What happens at airports? Well, what happens when I get a new job? I’ll always have a card that has the address and a reference to this present one which is soon to be obsolete. Certainly, my passport should somehow reflect my new status.
gray, don’t worry about it. Spend some time reading the threads and then join in. Try to avoid the personal attacks which some fall into. Reduce invective to a minimum. You’re going to see almost everything here but ridiculous behavior tends to get slapped. It’s sort of self policing but ocassionally the powers-that-be come in to stifle people. They usually deserve it.
Try to respond rather than react. That’s as good a piece of advice as I can muster. Do what you want. If you say something that strikes a nerve people will let you know. That isn’t necessarily bad. Alot is ignored.
I post mostly to vent. Most of what I say is ignored. Maybe I’m just too vanilla. It is cathartic, however. What you’ll see, read and hear on the peninsula will often leave you scratching your head. It helps to write about it even if you are just a tree falling in the woods.
“Weak dollar does not mean a weak economy.”
Well, there will always be die hards.
I would like to thank my American friends for voting GOP and driving SUVs to the Walmart.
Keep it up, please. I am planning to do a lot of travelling in the next couple of years.
i already did a pap smear. Multiple times.
The refusals come from Muslim women. No men.
@28 aaronm,
That’s cool information. Thanks. As long as we’re hopping continents, did you know that the founder of modern rock music in China is a Korean? I forget his name though.
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Anyway, I already like jazz standards a lot and this Korean American guy is playing one of my faves with a colorfulness and a sensitivity to timbre that I don’t often see on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcUX-M6zFk4
Considering the weather, the song above hits the spot.
It’s late. The chicken is cold. Benny Goodman
has nothing in common with Al Gore. What did you expect from comment #62. Frankly, it all veered away within the top 10.
Although, I am “up and at em” this bright and promising day.
Open Comment - “Have a great day!”, you sleepy heads.
Someguy;
No, I would in fact not be happy to get a Nobel Peace Prize (assuming I did anything to deserve one) and be included with the likes of KDJ, Carter, Arafat (well maybe I do qualify!), and now Gore. The money would be great, but no thanks to that tainted prize. Really.
That is sooo tired. Bush did not give the Democrats the intel, CIA did. They had the same intel that the Republicans did. The ‘Bush lied’ mantra is pure revisionist BS. If Bush lied, so did every Democrat that made similar statements for the war, as well as the intel services of all first world countries;
http://www.dprkstudies.org/doc.....eapons.pdf
And you can save your pseudo-scientific ramblings; I’m not drinking the Kool-Aid.
Here’s why I wish Al Gore were president:
“A zebra does not change its spots.” - Al Gore, attacking President George Bush in 1992.
Al Gore praising the Chicago Bulls: “I tell you that Michael Jackson is unbelievable, isn’t he. He’s just unbelievable.”
“$1 trillion is a million billion dollars”
The one person who would have been an even greater comedian than George Bush, and for my egocentric self-serving pleasure I would have LOVED to have him as president. More laughs. More wacky fun. Let the good times roll!
“That is sooo tired. Bush did not give the Democrats the intel, CIA did. They had the same intel that the Republicans did. The ‘Bush lied’ mantra is pure revisionist BS. If Bush lied, so did every Democrat that made similar statements for the war, as well as the intel services of all first world countries;”
No, Bush and co. gave everybody - Republicans, Democrats, and anybody else you can think of - the “spin” on the CIA’s intel.
You need to ask the following: First of all, was the CIA being encouraged or pressured to come up with intel to support the adminstration’s desired conclusions? Was the CIA’s intel not later manipulated by the administration to suggest that Iraq was actively engaged in a WMD program, thus providing an excuse for an invasion they were intent on carrying out? Is the CIA ever really in the position to dispute - especially in public - how its intel is possibly being twisted by an administration it serves?
I guess that deliberately emphasizing some of the most dubious pieces of intel while ignoring or downplaying more concrete evidence in one’s sales pitch for war isn’t outright lying, but most crooked salespeople don’t lie outright so much as bend the truth, sometimes to the point where it can no longer be seen.
Read the PDF I posted (no, I didn’t write it - a Clinton era CIA analyst did). Bush did not give congress the intel, the CIA did.
And did Bush influence the intel services of Germany, France, the UK, etc.?
You people are getting sucked into your own revisionist fantasies.
@abc #61:
The father of Chinese rock is Korean-Chinese Cui Jian.
“Read the PDF I posted (no, I didn’t write it - a Clinton era CIA analyst did).”
I did read it. Some very good points are made. Please, reread my post. I never claimed Bush made it all up or that they directly gave anybody the intel. I wrote that they took the CIA intel, especially the parts that looked appealing to them, and spun it to fit their desired conclusions.
“You people are getting sucked into your own revisionist fantasies.”
The biggest revisionist fantasy about the whole unfortunate event is that now we’ve still got a war, but the original excuse for starting one - WMD - has been replaced with new reasons - democracy, freedom, fighting Al Qaeda, etc.
I guess that I expect a little more from the “good guys”. I haven’t given up, but it is disappointing.
#40,
My buddy applied for his F-5, the clerk was impressed by his ability to use a few basic sentences in Korean. Gets a phone call two weeks later,”Your paperwork for your Korean citizenship is ready”.
#44,
LOL. My wife once made a cop cry because he had been rude to us. Long story, but the guy had been rude to me/us because I’m a ‘foreigner’.
#57,
Don’t worry about the airport. Your visa is in their database. Besides, you should have your alien registration card with you. You can always ask them to print you a new card with the F-5 printed in the front if it makes you feel better.
To fully enjoy those gains you’ll be limited to the States and those countries that peg their respective currencies to the US dollar, ex. Venezuela, Panama, Eritrea, Saudi Arabia.
#57 and #69, It seems like F-5s are handled a little differently from officer to officee (or from office to office - mine was done in Incheon). My visa in the passport is F-5 with “영구” added in pen. My Alien ID Card has F-5 on the front, but no extra “영구” stipulation added to the back. Neither has an expiry date, which seems reasonably as the visa in question is supposed to be permanent. As someguy wrote, I also think that the visa in the passport is supposed to trump the card (which, according to some, may not be essential for some visa holders these days) at the airport, so Maddlew might want to consider having something added to his actual passport to be safe. Always a pain in the ass to head down to an Immigration office, but better safe than sorry, right?
Yeah, I could head on back to immigration but then I’m sort of manifesting seouldout’s joke from #42.
My wife says I should shut-up and quit worrying. If they did indeed issue an F-5 to me it will be in their computer data-base. I just don’t want to go to the airport one day and they insist on confiscating my card because of the expiration date on the E-2 on the front which has been their standard procedure to this point.
I’ll work it out. Thanks everyone for your input and advice. I guess I’m not a tree falling in the woods.
Oh, and wjk, I believe you, dude. To quote John Huston in Chinatown, “In the right circumstances, a man is capable of almost anything.”
Hey, and that’s good news that you haven’t had to do any pap smears on men.
All those who believe (yes, believe) the earth warming is true can do something about it right now.
Instead of pointing fingers, just do things to reduce CO2 emission right now.
Ride bicycle to work. Use candle lights. Do not use electric heaters or air conditioners. Ie, live like a caveman.
Last time I checked, scientists were still not sure if the earth is warming and even if so it is due to CO2 emission.
I have a master’s degree in chemistry. I know these things.
“Idiot, it does say YeongKu on the back of my Alien Registration Card but nothing in my passport. Zilch, nada. Nothing new in my passport. That’s what worries me. What happens at airports? Well, what happens when I get a new job? I’ll always have a card that has the address and a reference to this present one which is soon to be obsolete. Certainly, my passport should somehow reflect my new status.”
Maddlew, don’t worry about it not being stamped in your passport. Besides my very first E2, I’ve never had my passport stamped. A few years back when I first renewed my F2, it was merely indicated by the new date in a space on the back of the alien card. I was worried about going through immi at airports too, but have never had a problem. And if anyone looks confused, I point to the F2 note written in felt marker and to the renewal date below and it’s been all fine. You just must always have your alien card with you for such things.
“The biggest revisionist fantasy about the whole unfortunate event is that now we’ve still got a war, but the original excuse for starting one - WMD - has been replaced with new reasons - democracy, freedom, fighting Al Qaeda, etc.”
These were always a part of the reasoning for going to war from the beginning. According to Friedman, the Bush admin chose to focus on the WDM as being an easier way to sell the war to the public (many are not so keen on using war to promote democracy/freedom in distant lands, myself included). And I always believed from the beginning that it was all about reshaping the situation in the Middle East, with the US ‘in’ there, as Friedman also talked about long before the war began.
Thanks Snow, everybody’s been alot of help. There’s always that voice in your head that says things are too good to be true. So you wait for the gnome to come out of an unmarked door to bap you on the head with a Louisville Slugger. I don’t think the gnome’s there this time.
That said, baduk, there is absolutely no reason to drive 40 miles to a mall in a 6000 lb truck with an eight litre V-8 under the hood to buy a gallon of milk. As much as it enriches my country, it also enriches America’s so called “enemies” and finances their “terrorism.”
Our “conservative” government recently started taxing big SUVs to the tune of $4000 Canadian Dollars a shot if they consume more than 18l/100km. It is a revenue neutral programme, in that if you buy a car with a rating of less than 7l/100km you get a rebate of $2000. It is not nearly enough but a good start. Hybrids are good for $4500 in rebates in British Columbia.
I would prefer if we in Canada adopted a taxation system similar to that of Eorope, where a Cadillac STS, for example, would be taxed at a rate of $30,000 a year. But we haven’t come that far yet. Started at least, though.
wjk is right: I have made myself ridiculous. What on earth am I doing spouting off on the internet with assertions that can’t be proven? wjk: I owe you an apology. While my intention was not “wjk is a liar” (which would state a certainty) so much as “it is unlikely that his claim is true” (a belief). I certainly implied the first, and am sorry for that. Unable to prove my belief, I must of course admit the possibility that you are a med student.
I believe that patients want doctors who speak from a position of knowledge and sound judgement, not ideology. I believe that patients want to be listened to, not lectured at. I believe that patients appreciate doctors who do not position themselves as experts on everything. I believe that patients appreciate clarity more than misdirection, and I believe that when patients have opinions different from their doctors’, that they prefer to be met with rational reasoning rather than mockery.
And I believe that med schools are usually very good at selecting such people.
Well, finally Al Gores name is where it belongs…
…on the same list with Yasser Arafat and Kim Dae Jung.
kimchipig,
That is difference between Canada and America.
America is the land of the Free.
We let people do anything they want. Drive 75 miles per hour in their SUV. Just feel the breeze. As long as they can pay for it.
Live and let live.
I don’t know how much less free we are than you, baduk, but there is certainly nothing like a “Patriot Act” or an “Office of Homeland Security.” And don’t come back with the “All the terrorists come from Canada” crap because you know it is not true. All of the 9-11 highjackers were in the USA legally and 15 of them were your Saudi “allies.”
Personally, I am all in favour of American people driving SUVs at 75mph and financing people in houses they cannot afford. The more the better. Those SUV are filled with Canadian gas and the houses built with Canadian wood.
Here’s to a GOP win in 2008! You can continue starting and fighting wars you cannot win while buying up our commodities to make the weapons.
And I am travelling next month.
baduk, I was taught the same thing when I was a biochemistry major in an environmental chemistry course. But the Prof said global warming THEORY may have some validity.
Kimchipig, if you are going south, and spending money on US stores, didn’t Bush ultimately cause you to spend your income in the US of A? You might want to cancel travel plans. I assume you’re not traveling to Europe.
Linkd, I consider myself a professional of professionals. Gong and Sa, Public and Private, I clearly separate.
@ sonagi
*shrug* benefit of the doubt + possibility of good time management. Also, difference of opinion does not mean difference in intelligence.
@ wjk
appreciate the advice… research experience doesn’t have significant weight in your opinion?
@ baduk
“We let people do anything they want. Drive 75 miles per hour in their SUV. Just feel the breeze. As long as they can pay for it.”
Except in the residential/school area.
I don’t know how true global warming hypothesis (wjk, wouldn’t calling it a scientific theory give near-100% validity?) is, not having taken any ecology/environmental science courses (and probably won’t)… But you know, I don’t think reducing CO2 emission could hurt - gotta find that magical solution to approaching fuel crisis sooner or later…
Ordinarily, I, too, take personal background and experiential claims at face value, but wjk’s absurd insistence that he is a med student is laughably rejected by almost everyone here. We scoff at his wild fantasies not because we disagree with him on most issues but because his posts and English language usage are not indicative of someone highly educated and intelligent. The joker smilingly professes to have given pap smears, but not to Muslim women or men, and is going to do a 6-wk ob-byn internship before he specializes in internal medicine. Does this make sense to you? He boasts of an IVY league degree, but read his fukn posts. Does he write like one? Honest to pete, bum, I have fourth grade ESL students who write more sophisticated English than he does. I’m not talking about his rabid political thoughts but his English usage.
If you would actually entertain the notion that he is an Ivy League grad and med student, please post your email address, and I’ll sell it to some Nigerian spammers for a cut of the money they fleece out of you.
Good luck getting into med school, bum.
sonagi, lady, all 3rd year med students have to do family medicine, peds, ob-gyn, internal medicine, psych, surgery clerkships, with electives, and it’s called a rotation. There are 4th year rotations, too.
What I was talking about was getting a residency in internal medicine.
doesn’t register, right? I don’t think it does. I don’t expect it to.
FYI, when I took my MCAT, I got a O in Writing. AP Writing exams? 4’s and 5’s. Did fine with the SAT 1 and 2. By the way, they say Writing is the least important section on the old MCAT I took. Verbal, Bio Sci, Phy Sci, way more important.
Sonagi, you better fight your life against Nicklby. Bush is holding you guys accountable, so that public school graduates can actually demonstrate they can read, write, and do arrthimetic.
You’re an English teacher? Really? All my teachers loved my writing. My high school teacher loved me.
I’m not exactly writing for a grade here, am I?
Yeah, I’ve done the digital rectal exam on countless men, too. What I can tell you is that a lot of guys think it’s okay to wipe their butt cracks and not wash their hands. And then, they want to shake your hands afterwards. Wash your hands, people. I always wash mine, and almost never touch my face.
Muslim women usually don’t want men to examine them. Why come to America, then?
buminkorea, yeah, it’s probably a hypothesis, not a theory. That was the perspective from the environmental chemist, and probably another environmental chemist who taught the same thing to baduk.
GPA and MCAT, that’s how they screen out.
Medical research, physician shadowing, medically related volunteer work, that’s additional stuff.
If you had the additional stuff without the MCAT and GPA to put you in the game in the first place, then you’re not in the game. Unless you pulled out the minority card. You don’t have it, by birth. How unfair is that?
that said, you want to have done a little bit of all the additional stuff prior to your med school interview, so you can talk about it.
to put it another way, you can do the additional stuff later, and it’s not graded. If you publish your research, fantastic !
MCAT, GPA, you get a number. GPA becomes resistant to change after a few quarters or semesters.
if you’re really bright and going also for the PhD, by all means do the research as long as it doesn’t interfere with your GPA.
You need to.
if you’re doing research or volunteering, and your GPA is dropping, then stop doing that stuff and concentrate on your grades.
It is true that med students complete rotations, but how is it that you are going to begin an ob/gyn rotation and you’ve already given pap smears. Oh, let me guess. You enjoyed poking a cold, steel speculum into a woman’s nook and cranny so much as a third year student that you decided to repeat the rotation in your fourth year.
Sounds like you’ve picked up a lot of details about med school from your smart cousin with a bright future.
Hey, everybody! wjk’s your man:
sonagi, when was your last pap smear?
You can get them from your family doctor, too.
Besides, they train us to do some properly before we go green inside a real one.
I’m the only medical student among all my cousins, Korea and the US.
wjk never lies.
I have approximately 25 cousins.
@74 Baduk, M.S. Chemistry: How is burning candles reducing CO2 emissions?
Hey WJK, where did you do your first year elective? Next fortnight I am heading to Severance Hospital to do mine.
Also I heard you don’t start seeing patients and learning physical examinations till 2nd year, is that true? (at my australian uni we start first year, the only point of value for the school really is it’s clinical traning program)
And when can you sit the UMLE, I’ve heard after 2nd year, but that seems ridiculous? In fairness we don’t have a licensing exam, but we do have exams to get into whatever college(speciality) we select and then a fair amount of assessment to get through to finish our registrar years.
@ Sonagi: everything you here about med students is created by med students for sympathy it is really just normal uni by about 130%, not so much of a step up, infact 3rd but particulalry 4th years have been said to be almost holidays (9-5 really with maybe an hour or two of study a night). And everything WJK says checks out. Maybe it’s because no one wants to be a doctor in Australia because plumbers get paid as much as non-specialist, but they let anyone in here, infact we have about 30 Canadians in a class of 370 (which is a stupid number of students for a med school). Infact we have a guy that has been convicted of a misdemeanour of attempted sexual abuse of a minor that has still not been kicked out (judges discretion). Compared to that WJK is a saint.
here=hear, man i suck
@ Bum from Korea, if at first you don’t suceed, come to Australia. Our clinical training is on par with North America, our lecturers are poorly organised and rarely relevant though. But we let anyone in!!!! And it is only AU$42,000 (indexed at CPI). We have a fair amount of Americans and Canadians that just missed out because of the hypercomopetiveness of med school entry in North America.
$42,000, per year
Maddlew, while I don’t have an F5 visa and never will, I have have several resident cards updated on the back with changes that included once change of status [E-7 to D-8], and never had a problem. At least not those you envision. Since E-7 was printed on the front, I spent my last year in Korea telling, at Immigration in IIA, “아닙니다. D−８입니다. 뒷면 보세요…” Never once did an immigration dude [or dudine] check the back. I guess you’ll have to do the same… until you get a new card [which is a good idea I think].
Man, I love liberals. Every liberal guy I know drives his Prius into his driveway and then starts up the grill and then glares at my non-hybrid vehicle. What a bunch of hypocrites–and gutless. Global warming-huh. We had about a hundred or so ice ages before the arrival of man did we not? Well then, I guess the Earth gets colder and warmer all on its own you pancake eating liberals.
Kimchipig, if you are going south, and spending money on US stores, didn’t Bush ultimately cause you to spend your income in the US of A? You might want to cancel travel plans. I assume you’re not traveling to Europe.
Does this actually make sense? Cancel travel plans? I was in the USA yesterday to play golf.
Troll alert.
Hello, Australian med studnet,
I haven’t chosen my elective yet. It’s in Feb, 08. I have to choose one from look