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		<title>By: dokdoforever</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/07/tbs-needs-help/#comment-112023</link>
		<dc:creator>dokdoforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kanglish writers are always shocked, too, to find out how much of their writing has to be completely re-written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kanglish writers are always shocked, too, to find out how much of their writing has to be completely re-written.</p>
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		<title>By: globalvillageidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/07/tbs-needs-help/#comment-112021</link>
		<dc:creator>globalvillageidiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, who cares if the work you're being given at the last minute is in any way related to the job you're supposed to be doing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, who cares if the work you&#8217;re being given at the last minute is in any way related to the job you&#8217;re supposed to be doing?</p>
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		<title>By: globalvillageidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/07/tbs-needs-help/#comment-112020</link>
		<dc:creator>globalvillageidiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14 Hugh, I've had similar experiences myself.  (Probably most of us here have also had the pleasure.)  Why do a really good job over a two or three week period when you can do a mediocre-at-best job with only 12 or 24 hours remaining before the deadline, right?  Who needs any additional information to explain the larger context or finer points of a document when all you have to do is make it good English?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14 Hugh, I&#8217;ve had similar experiences myself.  (Probably most of us here have also had the pleasure.)  Why do a really good job over a two or three week period when you can do a mediocre-at-best job with only 12 or 24 hours remaining before the deadline, right?  Who needs any additional information to explain the larger context or finer points of a document when all you have to do is make it good English?</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/07/tbs-needs-help/#comment-112018</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mato made me laugh with this:
"Isn’t there at least one company in this whole crazy peninsula who has another modus operandi than this? I used to think it was just a hagwan thing when I worked at a hagwan. But now that i have a job where I both work in a relatively large company and contact lots of other companies all day every day I realize that its par for the course here."

I've realized it too.  Last month the CEO of my company, not my direct boss, comes up and plops an enormous English document on my desk.

CEO - "I need you to proofread this, I told I client we'd proofread it as a bonus (said document has nothing at all to do with our business with the client)

Hugh - "Uh, but... proofreading is not really my job, I've got about 5 other projects I'm behind on and..."

CEO - (indulgently, as if addressing a retard) "It's easy for you, you're a native speaker.  Just get it to me by the end of the day, I'm meeting him (the client) for dinner."

Hugh - gulp. "Today?  This is pretty big.  When did he give you this?'

CEO - "Oh, a few weeks ago.  Gotta go, thanks!"

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Apart from this story, hope the job turns out better than it sounds to anyone who takes it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mato made me laugh with this:<br />
&#8220;Isn’t there at least one company in this whole crazy peninsula who has another modus operandi than this? I used to think it was just a hagwan thing when I worked at a hagwan. But now that i have a job where I both work in a relatively large company and contact lots of other companies all day every day I realize that its par for the course here.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve realized it too.  Last month the CEO of my company, not my direct boss, comes up and plops an enormous English document on my desk.</p>
<p>CEO - &#8220;I need you to proofread this, I told I client we&#8217;d proofread it as a bonus (said document has nothing at all to do with our business with the client)</p>
<p>Hugh - &#8220;Uh, but&#8230; proofreading is not really my job, I&#8217;ve got about 5 other projects I&#8217;m behind on and&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>CEO - (indulgently, as if addressing a retard) &#8220;It&#8217;s easy for you, you&#8217;re a native speaker.  Just get it to me by the end of the day, I&#8217;m meeting him (the client) for dinner.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hugh - gulp. &#8220;Today?  This is pretty big.  When did he give you this?&#8217;</p>
<p>CEO - &#8220;Oh, a few weeks ago.  Gotta go, thanks!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Apart from this story, hope the job turns out better than it sounds to anyone who takes it.</p>
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		<title>By: Linkd</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/07/tbs-needs-help/#comment-112017</link>
		<dc:creator>Linkd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a business point of view, there could hardly be a worse daytime slot. If my assumption is correct that the only radio listeners left in the modern world are people in their cars, then 830 am is precisely when they're supposed to be arriving at work - which in practice means that the 15 minutes between 830 and 845 is when they're finishing parking, bolting for the elevator and arriving at their desks. 

Audience: drivers of freshly-empty cabs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a business point of view, there could hardly be a worse daytime slot. If my assumption is correct that the only radio listeners left in the modern world are people in their cars, then 830 am is precisely when they&#8217;re supposed to be arriving at work - which in practice means that the 15 minutes between 830 and 845 is when they&#8217;re finishing parking, bolting for the elevator and arriving at their desks. </p>
<p>Audience: drivers of freshly-empty cabs.</p>
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		<title>By: Baek du boy</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/07/tbs-needs-help/#comment-112015</link>
		<dc:creator>Baek du boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7 Agree with your sentiments and have experienced such first hand in Korea, but no need to shoot down this post without looking at it for what it is worth.

It is not full time or real job, the employer may want someone to do it as a hobby or a bit of fun that could lead to more opportunities in the future, or something to put on the resume.

Most likely the person who takes the job will be getting paid illegally and outside their visa anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 Agree with your sentiments and have experienced such first hand in Korea, but no need to shoot down this post without looking at it for what it is worth.</p>
<p>It is not full time or real job, the employer may want someone to do it as a hobby or a bit of fun that could lead to more opportunities in the future, or something to put on the resume.</p>
<p>Most likely the person who takes the job will be getting paid illegally and outside their visa anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: rjh</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/07/tbs-needs-help/#comment-112014</link>
		<dc:creator>rjh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll bite. Do you have to be in Seoul?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll bite. Do you have to be in Seoul?</p>
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		<title>By: mateomiguel</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/07/tbs-needs-help/#comment-112013</link>
		<dc:creator>mateomiguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is a Man Not Entitled to the Sweat of His Own Brow?

“No, says the man in Washington, it belongs to the poor.”
“No, says the man in the Vatican, it belongs to God.”
“No, says the man in Moscow, it belongs to everyone.”
"No, says the man in Korea, it belongs to your coworkers."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is a Man Not Entitled to the Sweat of His Own Brow?</p>
<p>“No, says the man in Washington, it belongs to the poor.”<br />
“No, says the man in the Vatican, it belongs to God.”<br />
“No, says the man in Moscow, it belongs to everyone.”<br />
&#8220;No, says the man in Korea, it belongs to your coworkers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mins0306</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/07/tbs-needs-help/#comment-112012</link>
		<dc:creator>mins0306</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there's also this, which is a favorite in any Korean organization;

"We are all in the same boat"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there&#8217;s also this, which is a favorite in any Korean organization;</p>
<p>&#8220;We are all in the same boat&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mins0306</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/07/tbs-needs-help/#comment-112010</link>
		<dc:creator>mins0306</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to Wedge's comment, there's one more;

"My problem is also your problem, but your problem is not my problem"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to Wedge&#8217;s comment, there&#8217;s one more;</p>
<p>&#8220;My problem is also your problem, but your problem is not my problem&#8221;</p>
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