Comments on: Sorry… More Summit Notes http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/ Korea... in Blog Format Sun, 7 Sep 2008 05:54:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Supercklin » Archive » I haven’t been paying attention http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-116101 Supercklin » Archive » I haven’t been paying attention Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:52:26 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-116101 [...] I didn’t miss the giant waste of air also known as the 2007 inter-Korean Summit. It’s all show-boating politics and personal agendas from a DOA president on his way to burial and The Great Narcissist (imagine kidnapping your favorite director and forcing him to make film(s) just for you; it’d be like me abducting Jim Jarmusch). One could spend a few weeks reading all the bullshit pre and post fluff event pieces in the Korean press (important issues like ‘what car will Roh drive to Pyongyang?’) or absorb the lovely, detailed and sober (bullet) points here and here. [...] [...] I didn’t miss the giant waste of air also known as the 2007 inter-Korean Summit. It’s all show-boating politics and personal agendas from a DOA president on his way to burial and The Great Narcissist (imagine kidnapping your favorite director and forcing him to make film(s) just for you; it’d be like me abducting Jim Jarmusch). One could spend a few weeks reading all the bullshit pre and post fluff event pieces in the Korean press (important issues like ‘what car will Roh drive to Pyongyang?’) or absorb the lovely, detailed and sober (bullet) points here and here. [...]

]]> By: soondae http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-112186 soondae Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:38:45 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-112186 It was meant as a serious question, especially as some of the most vehement modern age Christian groups are in the south. And the question is not to be confined to christians only. I am sure there are many well-thought out answers, but I just have not heard them. Particulary when it comes to the suffering of the northern brethen. A guess, and my knowlege of the Old and New Testament is woefully inadequate, is that it has something to do with suffering down through three generations for the sins of a few. I'm also perplexed as to why the likes of KJI and, even more so, KIS, avowed atheists both, live(d)better lives than most people (as Snow states), if in fact there is a concerned deity watching over the show. How has this been explained off? It was meant as a serious question, especially as some of the most vehement modern age Christian groups are in the south. And the question is not to be confined to christians only. I am sure there are many well-thought out answers, but I just have not heard them. Particulary when it comes to the suffering of the northern brethen. A guess, and my knowlege of the Old and New Testament is woefully inadequate, is that it has something to do with suffering down through three generations for the sins of a few. I’m also perplexed as to why the likes of KJI and, even more so, KIS, avowed atheists both, live(d)better lives than most people (as Snow states), if in fact there is a concerned deity watching over the show. How has this been explained off?

]]> By: setnaffa http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-112066 setnaffa Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:26:17 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-112066 “How do the Christians explain this clown, and NK in general?” See Romans 1:18-32 for my understanding of most of the political problems we face today, including both KJI and Senator Craig (R-ID). Rather than quoting Milton like Paul did (and a great quote it was!), I'd suggest a careful study of the Bible (take your pick of translations at www.biblegateway.com) shows even the faithful (listed in Hebrews Chapter 11) were far from perfect (Noah got drunk and misbehaved, Abraham lied about his wife, Lot got drunk and misbehaved, David committed adultery and murder, etc.). Sin exists in the world since Adam and Eve disobeyed the only rule in the garden (Genesis Chapter 3). God is merciful and allows us enough time to repent (or not) before we get the opportunity to explain ourselves (2 Peter Chapter 3)... Rather than worrying about how well someone else is obeying the Bible, Christians are probably better off telling folks about the good news (like Matthew 28:16-32 commands) and striving to be a good example (like Romans 12:1-2). There's enough work there to keep anyone busy full time--at least in my life. And we're not to brag about any goodness we have (Ephesians 2:8-9) because it was not our efforts... Okay, back to work now... ;-) “How do the Christians explain this clown, and NK in general?”

See Romans 1:18-32 for my understanding of most of the political problems we face today, including both KJI and Senator Craig (R-ID).

Rather than quoting Milton like Paul did (and a great quote it was!), I’d suggest a careful study of the Bible (take your pick of translations at http://www.biblegateway.com) shows even the faithful (listed in Hebrews Chapter 11) were far from perfect (Noah got drunk and misbehaved, Abraham lied about his wife, Lot got drunk and misbehaved, David committed adultery and murder, etc.). Sin exists in the world since Adam and Eve disobeyed the only rule in the garden (Genesis Chapter 3). God is merciful and allows us enough time to repent (or not) before we get the opportunity to explain ourselves (2 Peter Chapter 3)…

Rather than worrying about how well someone else is obeying the Bible, Christians are probably better off telling folks about the good news (like Matthew 28:16-32 commands) and striving to be a good example (like Romans 12:1-2). There’s enough work there to keep anyone busy full time–at least in my life.

And we’re not to brag about any goodness we have (Ephesians 2:8-9) because it was not our efforts…

Okay, back to work now… ;-)

]]> By: Paul H. http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-112064 Paul H. Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:21:10 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-112064 "How do the Christians explain this clown, and NK in general?" Well, if this is a serious question, I wouldn't use the word "clown" (a perfectly respectable profession in my book). Other than that: "Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven". “How do the Christians explain this clown, and NK in general?”

Well, if this is a serious question, I wouldn’t use the word “clown” (a perfectly respectable profession in my book).

Other than that: “Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven”.

]]> By: soondae http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-112058 soondae Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:00:35 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-112058 #4 ''So why couldn’t an old bastard like KJI put away heavy amounts of drink, after all, he’s the leader of a country and has had anything and everything he’s wanted (girls, drink) his whole life (it’s disgusting that this piece of crap has lived better than most people, except for his probably great fear of having his head blown off-I hope he lives with that fear constantly).'' Agree. How do the Christians explain this clown, and NK in general? #4 ”So why couldn’t an old bastard like KJI put away heavy amounts of drink, after all, he’s the leader of a country and has had anything and everything he’s wanted (girls, drink) his whole life (it’s disgusting that this piece of crap has lived better than most people, except for his probably great fear of having his head blown off-I hope he lives with that fear constantly).”

Agree.

How do the Christians explain this clown, and NK in general?

]]> By: East Windup Chronicle » Blog Archive » Sunday Morning Chronicle http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-111987 East Windup Chronicle » Blog Archive » Sunday Morning Chronicle Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:13:03 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-111987 [...] Marmot’s Hole has an in-depth review of the summit between South Korean president Roh and the Dear Leader (Part 1 Part 2)  [...] [...] Marmot’s Hole has an in-depth review of the summit between South Korean president Roh and the Dear Leader (Part 1 Part 2)  [...]

]]> By: baduk http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-111956 baduk Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:12:08 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-111956 What jokers like Rho and Jo do not know is that Kim is a king. He has absolute power on who lives and who dies. Since these losers have never lived in NK, they dream about the wonderful life of Brotherhood. And, social justice (get the rich and kill 'em). They have never met a king - up to now. A king can kill anyone who he does not like. Even those on his side, when they fail. A king has an image to live up to. Rho and his cronies did something that they have no idea. They just thought a king would be happy if they bring these presents. Well, a king can get very angry when he realize he was conned. What jokers like Rho and Jo do not know is that Kim is a king. He has absolute power on who lives and who dies.

Since these losers have never lived in NK, they dream about the wonderful life of Brotherhood. And, social justice (get the rich and kill ‘em).

They have never met a king - up to now.

A king can kill anyone who he does not like. Even those on his side, when they fail. A king has an image to live up to.

Rho and his cronies did something that they have no idea. They just thought a king would be happy if they bring these presents.

Well, a king can get very angry when he realize he was conned.

]]> By: baduk http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-111955 baduk Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:04:43 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-111955 Even Kim Jongil may not understand that Rho is fucking him over by promising these wonderful things and not deliver. Korean congress is ready to defeat this agreement. No Korean company I know has come out to increase their investment in North Korea. Huyndai Asan is the only one. But, they have to do that anyway because their main business is NK tourism. Last time I checked the company was going broke anyway. No money. These things Rho promised are either pipe dreams or lies designed to make Kim look bad. A kind of con job. Korean Commies are cons anyway. You cannot trust any of these guys. When Kim finds out Rho pulled a quick one, he will demand Rho to personally live up to his end of the deal. Rho may have to commit suicide to atone for his sins - lying to the Great Leader of the 21st century, a demi-god. If he doesn't, Kim will send his assassins to do the job. Not only Rho but his family as well. Rho made a big mistake. He crossed the GodFather. Even Kim Jongil may not understand that Rho is fucking him over by promising these wonderful things and not deliver.

Korean congress is ready to defeat this agreement.

No Korean company I know has come out to increase their investment in North Korea. Huyndai Asan is the only one. But, they have to do that anyway because their main business is NK tourism. Last time I checked the company was going broke anyway.

No money.

These things Rho promised are either pipe dreams or lies designed to make Kim look bad. A kind of con job.

Korean Commies are cons anyway. You cannot trust any of these guys.

When Kim finds out Rho pulled a quick one, he will demand Rho to personally live up to his end of the deal.

Rho may have to commit suicide to atone for his sins - lying to the Great Leader of the 21st century, a demi-god.

If he doesn’t, Kim will send his assassins to do the job. Not only Rho but his family as well.

Rho made a big mistake. He crossed the GodFather.

]]> By: baduk http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-111952 baduk Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:50:53 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-111952 "Pay up" instead of "pay off". Kim DaeJung and Rho Muheyn should sell their houses, jewels, retirement pay and what have you to pay Kim Jongil. They promised these monies to Kim, not Korean public. Koreans had enough of these jokers. “Pay up” instead of “pay off”.

Kim DaeJung and Rho Muheyn should sell their houses, jewels, retirement pay and what have you to pay Kim Jongil.

They promised these monies to Kim, not Korean public.

Koreans had enough of these jokers.

]]> By: baduk http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-111951 baduk Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:47:31 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/10/05/sorry-more-summit-notes/#comment-111951 “roadmap” to implement his summit agreement with North Korea? In two months? Fucking A. Rho's promise only give Kim Jongil to take SK to cleaners. Kim will say "You guys promised. So pay off. Or else..." If you sell something to a GodFather, he will be very angry when SK doesn't deliver. It makes him look bad. He will feel cheated. Kim may order a hit on Rho's residence. For making him look bad. “roadmap” to implement his summit agreement with North Korea? In two months?

Fucking A.

Rho’s promise only give Kim Jongil to take SK to cleaners. Kim will say “You guys promised. So pay off. Or else…”

If you sell something to a GodFather, he will be very angry when SK doesn’t deliver. It makes him look bad. He will feel cheated.

Kim may order a hit on Rho’s residence. For making him look bad.

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