Marmot’s Open Thread #21

Blackjack!

46 Comments

  1. Paul H. your flag
    Posted September 29, 2007 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Anybody know what’s happened to my main man Baduk? I’m worried about his long silence — hope he’s alright.

  2. Posted September 29, 2007 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    If you don’t mind I’d like to hawk some of my own stuff again in ye here open thread. At East Windup Chronicle we have a story concerning Jason Johnson, a former Indians pitcher who signed a 3Mil contract to play in Japan this year. He (kind of) kept a blog, got up to a few stupid foreigner tricks, and we’re critical of both. Check’er out at:

    http://eastwindupchronicle.com/?p=197

  3. Maddlew your flag
    Posted September 29, 2007 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Any news on how D-Wars is doing in the States?

  4. mins0306 your flag
    Posted September 29, 2007 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    #1.

    Baduk does occasionally stop by and posts his unique point of view on the current issues. FYI, he last commented on Sept 20th.

    http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/.....ent-109541

    And before that on Sept 18th.

    http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/.....ent-108653

    From the looks of it, I guess he’s busy with work and/or other things.

  5. Sonagi your flag
    Posted September 29, 2007 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    I’ve been reading this blog for close to three years now, and I’ve noticed that a lot of oldtimers like Baduk don’t comment very often.

  6. tomojiro54 your flag
    Posted September 29, 2007 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    I began to read marmot’s hole somewhere in 2005. Yeah, baduk was one of the most frequent and also controversial commentators.

  7. Posted September 29, 2007 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    Baduk is a stud. He calls it like he sees it.

    On another topic, I’m going to ask again: Did anyone see “미남 수다” on Monday night? I would like to know if it was lame or good, and why. Thanks.

  8. Posted September 29, 2007 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    D-War was dying a slow death in its second week in the States, from what I read.

  9. wjk your flag
    Posted September 29, 2007 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    type in “aleph3love” in youtube, Mr. Whitey.

  10. gbevers your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 12:58 am | Permalink

    Mighty Mo got robbed in his fight with Choi Hong-man. He also got kicked in the balls twice, something that the referee ignored both times. Mighty Mo was even counted down after one of kicks. Even when the rerun of the first kick showed that Choi scored a bulleye, the Korean announcer said, “No, it looks like he just got him on the inner left thigh.”

    By the way, Mighty Mo thought he was robbed, too. See this Korean article

  11. wjk your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 2:40 am | Permalink

    I’d like to protest against the outsting of YoungRocco2.

    What is the reasoning of tolerating people who leave comments like

    “wa ha ha ha, gyopo !”

    “seriously, is gyopo the new word for xxxxxx?”

    “we call them comfort women in Australia.”

    Reinstate YoungRocco2.

    This is about integrity and character.

    We’re all grown ups.

  12. wjk your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 2:50 am | Permalink

    The only thing preventing Washington from landing in Burma to save those people with the UK, is a proxy war with China and threats from Russia not to make it a “regional confrontation.”

    I agree with half of this cartoon.
    http://news.naver.com/hotissue.....on_id2=307
    Boycott Beijing Olympics.
    Make it be with less participation than Moscow or LA.
    Since World War II, Chinese involvment in neighboring countries and killings within China contributed to a comparable people dying in Asia compared to World War II.
    Hu Jin Tao and Kim Jong Il should be thoroughly abused and humiliated and then thrown off a 8 story building.
    8 story was chosen on purpose. You can die before you hit ground, if you were thrown off a 100 story one. That’s too easy.
    If they weren’t injured enough to die, they should be given a mercy bullet to the head.
    It is undeniable that Southeast Asia has suffered because of Chinese influence and the voluntary white flag by the US from Vietnam.
    53000 dead from the US side. As high as 8 million died after the US left.

    Fact.

  13. dokdoforever your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 4:52 am | Permalink

    I typed in “aleph3love” in youtube - I wonder how a show like that would go over in the States - foreign women brought in and put on display in front of American men. Most likely American feminists would be pretty upset - but not a peep out of Korean women’s groups in Korea. Kind of odd that this show isn’t more controversial.

  14. abcdefg your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 6:02 am | Permalink

    You must really love false analogies, dokdo.

  15. bumfromkorea your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 6:57 am | Permalink

    I thought the show was controversial… some people are complaining about how it’s squandering opportunities to change the un-PCness of SK society, some are calling it sexist (and let’s face it, it is), others are offended by the show’s own un-PCness (including me). I think metropolitician had a post about one of its more offensive display http://metropolitician.blogs.c.....an_of.html

    I’m especially uncomfortable watching it (my family LOVES the show, btw) because the “panel” and the host tend to laugh AT the “beauties” whenever they make mistakes speaking Korean… which to me is incredible (in a very horrible way).

    @whitey

    “D-War was dying a slow death in its second week in the States, from what I read.”

    That is a terrible news… why a SLOW death?

  16. Posted September 30, 2007 at 7:26 am | Permalink

    “D-War was dying a slow death in its second week in the States, from what I read.”

    That is a terrible news… why a SLOW death?

    My guess is the theater owners were promised more than simply a high percentage of the box office — they were promised a guarantee. In order to claim the guarantee, theater owners kept the film on screens several days after Dragon Wars had indisputably proved itself to be a turkey.

    How would the guarantee work? The distributor would say “We will pay your theater the difference between box-office takings and $X, which we guarantee this film will achieve. How can it fail? It sold eight million tickets in Korea!” On the back end of that, of course, is Shim Hyung-Rae’s guarantee to the US distributor. Probably he egged them on to make the guarantee, to make it large enough to open the film on 2300 screens, and promised to make good any losses the distributor would incur. And on the back end of that, of course, is litigation and the heartbreak of trying to enforce judgments in Korea against a fly-by-night corporation.

    Here’s the weird part: On the second weekend, Dragon Wars pulled in US$2.5 million. That means something like 35 people turned up to each showing. How can that be? Did they run a communique in the Korean-language daily papers saying it was the Korean immigrants’ last chance to prove they were real Koreans or something?

  17. Posted September 30, 2007 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    Yeah even Choi himself was shaking his head no after the first low blow and then the replay was very obvious he had the gonad shot.

    The first one was so obvious the fact the referee missed it was pathetic I think he was Korean!

    Mo landed many more heavy blows and should have won but haven’t we seen this before in Korea on many occasions.

    If anything I thought another round may have decided it better but I think the judges thought Choi would lose and disappoint the Korean fans!

    The other corny part was the “oh pilsung Korea” song for Choi on his intro.

  18. globalvillageidiot your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    “but havent we seen this before in korea on many occasions”

    Memories of Roy Jones Jr. in ‘88 anyone?

  19. wjk your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    apollo anton ohno, anyone?

  20. globalvillageidiot your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    “apollo anton ohno, anyone?”

    The Ohno call could have gone either way. And I realize fully that one call means a lot in short track. Baseball or football games - close ones, that is - can often come down to a ninth inning play at the plate or possible interference call in the endzone with two seconds on the clock. But, as is the case in most missed/blown/controversial calls in professional sports, there is no evidence of a conspiracy. It is a case of human error, assuming of course that such a call is actually the wrong one. For the sake of argument, were the United States to have attempted to “buy” a medal at Salt Lake City - which they wouldn’t have done anyway - why do it in a sport that few people give a rat’s ass about?

    On the other hand, Roy Jones Jr. was outright shafted. Roy Jones Jr. outpunched his opponent, Park Si-hun, 86-32. Landed more blows than the other guy managed to throw. Owned him every round of the fight. I can recall my father, who was actually rooting for the underdog Park, being so angered by the obvious crookery of the decison that he had to leave the room. Judges were suspended, one admitted a “mistake”, and IOC investigations discovered that judges had indeed been gotten to by local officials. The Olympic scoring system for boxing was changed to avoid such things - bribery, in a nutshell - from happening in the future. No such evidence in Salt Lake City, was there?

    Boxing is notorious for being crooked throughout the world - not just Korea, of course - and I imagine that MMA might not be 100% clean either. I like Choi Hong-man - he’s a lot better than I originally expected him to be - and would need to see the fight to give it a fair assessment. (It can’t be any worse than Roy Jones Jr. fiasco!) If his win was deserved, good for him!

  21. Sonagi your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Here’s some cheesecake for you boys to savor:

    http://english.chosun.com/w21d.....80010.html

    Judging by the image on the right, Korea’s entrant to the Miss Universe pageant either needs a better camera angle or a better photoshop job.

  22. abcdefg your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    @globalvillageidiot: Nice post! I appreciate its objectivity.

    Anyway, I haven’t seen the fight in full but can’t say it looks too good for Choi judging by this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3URgwoBtNJw

    It’s possible that when Choi kicked Mo he felt nothing in the form of testicles get in the way of his foot and the side of Mo’s leg. But the kick looks direct enough.

  23. dda your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    Goody gum drops! The Indian chick is bee you ti full…

  24. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    “The only thing preventing Washington from landing in Burma to save those people with the UK, is a proxy war with China and threats from Russia not to make it a “regional confrontation.””

    Seems like a damned good reason not to get involved.

    #18,

    Actually, memories of Ray Downey in ‘88 (the one guy who could have beat Roy Jones fair and square). He got hit twice bellow the belt, if I remember correctly.

    #22,

    Right, he got “hit in the thigh”. What a load of crap. Not only was he hit in the crotch, he got hit from under, which really hurts. And looking at the size of that foot, I have no doubt it connected with the full package.

  25. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    #21,

    At least she doesn’t look anorexic, nor does she look like she’s had a lot of cosmetic surgery…which is more than I can say about some of the past Korean beauty pageant winners.

  26. abcdefg your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    24

    I have no doubt that Mighty Mo was hurting. That kind of shot is painful from the reverberation alone. I get the impression I do from looking at the angle of Choi’s knee as it extends. It’s going in side ways and Mo is maneuvering backward. That said, there’s no denying he got hit in the crotch.

    21

    Are you perhaps confusing Miss Korea 2006 (the girl in your links) with the recent Miss Korea 2007 (the girl whose booty pic you’ve once claimed were neccesarily photoshopped)?

  27. Posted September 30, 2007 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    Good grief, abcdefg, Sonagi is good enough to be our outsourcer for hot chic photos, and you want to quibble about which girl belongs in which pageant?

  28. abcdefg your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Whether I’m “quibbling” or not won’t be known until Sonagi answers the question. I don’t ask it for my sake.

  29. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    To had to may comment in #24,

    It’s a good reason not to get involved…but I really don’t think China would do anything. They have been trying too hard to to make us think that they care about international opinion in advance of the Olympics. The Chinese government would really lose a lot of support at home if they messed this one up.

  30. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    “To had to may comment”…?

    Boys and girls, never attempt to type if you haven’t had any coffee all day.

  31. Posted September 30, 2007 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    Wow!
    Julien Gang has a great figure and face. German man is cute and looks like a good man. Iranian man is, wow, great, yep great. USA man, Leo, is good-looking. Cutting the tip of his nose will make him perfect. (Oh, sorry. I don’t like plastic surgery and find one’s inner part by the attitude toward plastic surgery. But, I’m tainted. :()
    Two Turkish men are both good-looking.

    세상은 넓고 미남은 많다. 아싸~!

    Here’s some past photoes of Ms. Jang Yoon-joo.
    Enjoy it.
    http://okparty.tistory.com/tag.....4%EC%A3%BC

  32. abcdefg your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    A few vids I like.

    David Mura in The Paranoid Asian American Guy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgDl3qbgDk8

    ^ Funny stuff. His delivery has the cadence of a poem, which I dig.

    A review of the movie “Once” and some funny stuff about being an Asian Australian:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr-urGRT5Bs

    An etymolgy lesson on the word irony, by some hot Russian (?) chick:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApJLOVlkd0U

  33. Sonagi your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    She was Miss Korea in 2005. What a great sista I am passing along hot chick pics. Interesting little factoid I learned: people in relationships tend to stare more at attractive people of the SAME sex while those unattached look longer at attractive people of the opposite sex. The logic is obvious: the first are checking out competitors while the second are scoping for mates.

    The Washington Post’s World News section this Sunday features a story on plastic surgery in Seoul:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....=rss_world

    Next to it is an article about Burma. The plastic surgery story got more column space.

  34. hoju_saram your flag
    Posted September 30, 2007 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    Let’s talk about fighting again. Saw the Mo/Hong Man smackdown and Ho got robbed. You can clearly see his testicle getting owned on the youtube clip (while the korean commentators fervently agree there was no contact).

    Personaly I’d like to see a korean blogosphere rumble on the next card.

    Here’s how I’d foresee it going:

    The main event would be Marmot V Bevers. Bevers would be more aggressive, but Marmot would be cool and calculating, and would begin to wear him down with some cunning body shots. Just when it looked like Bevers was about to go down for the count, King Baekdu (who technically shouldn’t have got involved, since he was in the “zines” division) sucker punches Marmot, who goes down for the count. Then it’s on. Pawi and wjk tag team King Baekdu, one of them landing two good kicks to his nuts (which the korean ref ignores).

    Things then begin to get out of hand. Someone yells something racist, and The Metropolitician, who came along to take some photos, begins to weep inconsolably. Brendon Carr begins to argue with the ref over the decisions, then in a fit of rage casts his rulebook aside and clotheslines pawi. Tambe and someone called garlic breath begin kicking pawi in the ribs while he’s down. Then Knightwraith enters in a cloud of smoke and stabs garlic breath to death.

    Sewing, horrified by the whole scene, tries to call Nomad and his crew to come help, but he’s fishing. Ampotan ignores the call, claiming he’s not part of the blogosphere.

    A gang of evil fellows then arrive led by tomojiro. Bumfromkorea, who thinks he’s safe because he’s sitting on the rope, gets punched out. WJK, is a whirlwind. Nobody can punch him because he keeps using circuitous logic.

    The fight eventually grinds down to a few hardy souls. Then the Big Hominid steps in and mops the floor with everyone.

  35. Posted October 1, 2007 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    Thanks, guys, for remembering me.

    I recently got a job as a computer programmer and I am busy writing Visual Basic programs.

    And, I did not have much time to write on this blog. I did not have much time to play Japanese Go (Baduk).

    It is nice to be missed. And, thank everyone for reading my incoherent ramblings. All I wanted to do was to present both Korean and American view in a balanced manner.

    However, sometimes my Korean side did take better of me and I wrote a couple of nationalistic views. I guess they balance out some racist views written by some frustrated and angry White folks, who want to put down anything Korean.

    I thank Robert for continuing to do a good job. I hope in near future you will be recognized as a national treasure.

    And, I promise to drop in more often from now on since my job is under control.

  36. wjk your flag
    Posted October 1, 2007 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    oh, the September Swoon of the Mets have been an epic collapse, worthy of history books.

    I will wish everyday in October for the bitterest end for both the Yanks and the Phils in October.

    Will the Cubs win it all? They’re the weakest team in the bracket.

    Oh, it hurts so much, it reminds me of strike 3 looking last year, by Beltran.

    It hurts so much, that I will probably adopt a new outlet. But it certainly won’t be mind altering drugs. Nice creative work, hoju_saram.

    Perhaps I will write my biography.

  37. abcdefg your flag
    Posted October 1, 2007 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    @11:

    “I’d like to protest against the outsting of YoungRocco2.”

    From what I’ve read, YR2 was hated so much because his posts were full of ad hominems. But I don’t see what the big deal is. Pretty much every post I’ve read in response to any of his - and pretty much any comment about him in any context - were full of the same shit.

    The pertinent question then seems to be, who started the antagonism first?

    I agree that YR2’s comments were full of patronization, but what’s that mean on a blog full of patronizers? I’ve seen all kinds of insults hurled at him. I’ve seen the same and worse as well aimed at other Koreans here. I’ve dealt with a few insults myself — some of them quite unwarranted.

    I don’t know the history of YR2 so I leave this post open.

    To add anyway, I recently perused this thread here:

    http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/.....tic-comic/

    usinkorea’s comments are full of insults and his language is harsh and even physical; in one comment he petitions to have a particular commenter “beat up.”

    Has usinkorea been banned or ever warned? I haven’t seen text like his in any of YR2’s comments.

  38. Posted October 1, 2007 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Not that I intend to argue about who I ban (in fact, I usually ignore commenters raising such questions, or, depending on my mood that day, ban them, too), but the same complaint could be made by anyone who gets booted — “You banned me, but how come you didn’t ban X?”

  39. abcdefg your flag
    Posted October 1, 2007 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    It may seem like it but it doesn’t follow that every instance of that question be trivial.

    But if you’re saying that you ban people for reasons ultimately private to you (read: yous gonna ban whoever the fug you wann), then there’s nothing to discuss.

    I’ll make my own judgements.

  40. dda your flag
    Posted October 1, 2007 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    I’ll make my own judgements.

    /me points to the door. You don’t like it here, you don’t spit on the carpet, you just make sure you close the door on your way out.

  41. Posted October 1, 2007 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    The point was made, so let’s leave it at that.

  42. Posted October 1, 2007 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    (sigh)
    …and just when a sudden resurgence in interest in photos of pretty girls was starting to lighten the mood around here…

  43. dda your flag
    Posted October 1, 2007 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    which reminds me:

    More racing girls goodness

  44. Ledtim your flag
    Posted October 1, 2007 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Did anybody know that the North Korean women’s soccer team is ranked 5th in the world and they got to the quarterfinals in the World Cup that just finished? I didn’t.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_FIFA_Women’s_World_Cup

  45. Ledtim your flag
    Posted October 1, 2007 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    Let’s try this again

  46. Posted October 1, 2007 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    In any case, I strongly suspect that the NK women’s soccer team would not look very good in racing girl outfits.

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