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		<title>By: wookinponub</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/22/marmot%e2%80%99s-open-thread-20/#comment-110949</link>
		<dc:creator>wookinponub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love a good train wreck.</description>
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		<title>By: whitey</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/22/marmot%e2%80%99s-open-thread-20/#comment-110939</link>
		<dc:creator>whitey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expected to see something here, or elsewhere in the expat online community, on Minam Suda, which aired on Monday night, I believe.  "Chat with Whitey Tools", is the title in English.  Anyone see it?  How was it?  

Here's my friend's prediction of what the show will be like:

I bet every whitey will be bald, fat, or super nerdy.  It will be like..."I told you whites suck."
 
And, "So kimchee so hot right?"
 
"So you have the Korean girlfriend...ok.  Next topic...Why foreign men so fat and inferior to the ajussi?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expected to see something here, or elsewhere in the expat online community, on Minam Suda, which aired on Monday night, I believe.  &#8220;Chat with Whitey Tools&#8221;, is the title in English.  Anyone see it?  How was it?  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my friend&#8217;s prediction of what the show will be like:</p>
<p>I bet every whitey will be bald, fat, or super nerdy.  It will be like&#8230;&#8221;I told you whites suck.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, &#8220;So kimchee so hot right?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;So you have the Korean girlfriend&#8230;ok.  Next topic&#8230;Why foreign men so fat and inferior to the ajussi?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Zonath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zonath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#215

Uh huh.  Of course, 'denying personhood' sorta presupposes a basis upon which personhood should be granted in the first place.  And of course, this gets into the sticky quagmire of morality and philosophy and all that -- which I just won't get into.  A fetus might have a greater claim to personhood than a tree or a whale, but that doesn't necessarily mean much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#215</p>
<p>Uh huh.  Of course, &#8216;denying personhood&#8217; sorta presupposes a basis upon which personhood should be granted in the first place.  And of course, this gets into the sticky quagmire of morality and philosophy and all that &#8212; which I just won&#8217;t get into.  A fetus might have a greater claim to personhood than a tree or a whale, but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean much.</p>
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		<title>By: whitey</title>
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		<dc:creator>whitey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A:  What'd you do for Chuseok?
B:  Spent a lot of time online at the Marmot's Hole arguing abortion.
A:  Wow, sounds like fun.
B:  How about you?
A:  Went to the Philippines.  Swam and met some nice girls.  Sounds like you got me beat though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A:  What&#8217;d you do for Chuseok?<br />
B:  Spent a lot of time online at the Marmot&#8217;s Hole arguing abortion.<br />
A:  Wow, sounds like fun.<br />
B:  How about you?<br />
A:  Went to the Philippines.  Swam and met some nice girls.  Sounds like you got me beat though.</p>
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		<title>By: bumfromkorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>bumfromkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, wonderful memories of childhood... 

I don't know about the lice thing... It's probably true, but that was before I was even born ^^.  We chased it around because it was fun... for some unknown reason.  

We'd always get yelled at by our parents and the guys spraying the stuff though... YEAH, that's gonna stop us... ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, wonderful memories of childhood&#8230; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about the lice thing&#8230; It&#8217;s probably true, but that was before I was even born ^^.  We chased it around because it was fun&#8230; for some unknown reason.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;d always get yelled at by our parents and the guys spraying the stuff though&#8230; YEAH, that&#8217;s gonna stop us&#8230; ^^</p>
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		<title>By: Iceberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iceberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#216.

I may have been misinformed, but I've been told that, back when Korea was economically weaker, parents used to send their children out to chase those trucks as a way to stave off head lice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#216.</p>
<p>I may have been misinformed, but I&#8217;ve been told that, back when Korea was economically weaker, parents used to send their children out to chase those trucks as a way to stave off head lice.</p>
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		<title>By: abcdefg</title>
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		<dc:creator>abcdefg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps: credits to &lt;a&gt;misskoko&lt;/a&gt; at her blog for the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps: credits to <a>misskoko</a> at her blog for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: abcdefg</title>
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		<dc:creator>abcdefg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel sorry for Christian moralists. They re kind of like astrologists or phrenologists. They re just not very up-to-date on things.

Anyway, this video was fikken hillarious. I recall someone here- perhaps bumfromkorea- talking about it. 

Hillarious. At the same time kind of sad. I can sit back and enjoy the wacky innocence and laugh but - the health risks and the ignorance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TS6fqwIR18</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel sorry for Christian moralists. They re kind of like astrologists or phrenologists. They re just not very up-to-date on things.</p>
<p>Anyway, this video was fikken hillarious. I recall someone here- perhaps bumfromkorea- talking about it. </p>
<p>Hillarious. At the same time kind of sad. I can sit back and enjoy the wacky innocence and laugh but - the health risks and the ignorance:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TS6fqwIR18" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TS6fqwIR18</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ut videam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ut videam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#213 -
&lt;blockquote&gt;I just don’t think this is one of those cases — fetuses not being, y’know, “people”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;A lot of atrocities against a lot of people have been justified in just this way over the years—by denying personhood to the victims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#213 -</p>
<blockquote><p>I just don’t think this is one of those cases — fetuses not being, y’know, “people”.</p></blockquote>
<p>A lot of atrocities against a lot of people have been justified in just this way over the years—by denying personhood to the victims.</p>
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		<title>By: bumfromkorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>bumfromkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ wjk

"bum, you’re no cancer expert."
...
Yeah, you're right.  That's why I'm not citing my own peer-reviewed research papers as sources of information.  But I do think I have the ability to learn from a molecular geneticist (and, technically, a cell biologist/biochemist (different professor)) and convey the information to others as arguments.  

"bum, women’s mortality is NOT increased for grand multiparity."

The research paper you cite is talking about post-labor labor complications: 

"In this study, 59% of all maternal deaths occur within the first 42 days of delivery, two thirds of them having direct and indirect obstetric causes"

"Among these women, 1 237 were dead within one year after delivery."

When they say 'maternal mortality', they mean from a complication.  I'm talking about the adverse health effects that pregnancy have on women, and how deadly it can be when it accumulates due to multiparity. 

Once again, research papers are easily misinterpreted due to the fact that most scientists are horrible writers (or, their grad students are ^^).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ wjk</p>
<p>&#8220;bum, you’re no cancer expert.&#8221;<br />
&#8230;<br />
Yeah, you&#8217;re right.  That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m not citing my own peer-reviewed research papers as sources of information.  But I do think I have the ability to learn from a molecular geneticist (and, technically, a cell biologist/biochemist (different professor)) and convey the information to others as arguments.  </p>
<p>&#8220;bum, women’s mortality is NOT increased for grand multiparity.&#8221;</p>
<p>The research paper you cite is talking about post-labor labor complications: </p>
<p>&#8220;In this study, 59% of all maternal deaths occur within the first 42 days of delivery, two thirds of them having direct and indirect obstetric causes&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Among these women, 1 237 were dead within one year after delivery.&#8221;</p>
<p>When they say &#8216;maternal mortality&#8217;, they mean from a complication.  I&#8217;m talking about the adverse health effects that pregnancy have on women, and how deadly it can be when it accumulates due to multiparity. </p>
<p>Once again, research papers are easily misinterpreted due to the fact that most scientists are horrible writers (or, their grad students are ^^).</p>
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