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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/19/help-help-im-being-repressed/#comment-110781</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul H. blathered: "He was clearly resisting the cops’ attempt to escort him out and after they got him down on the ground trying to handcuff him he continued squirming around on the ground. "

Yes, the unthinkable crime of squirming on the ground, something 4 grown police and Paul H. find worthy of tasing.  

You're a callous piece of shit, Paul. Admit it.  If it were your kid, or your sister being tased for 'squirming' would you really be so flip about it?  Your entries on the Hole here essentially all boil down to keyboard warrior crap.  You're disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul H. blathered: &#8220;He was clearly resisting the cops’ attempt to escort him out and after they got him down on the ground trying to handcuff him he continued squirming around on the ground. &#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, the unthinkable crime of squirming on the ground, something 4 grown police and Paul H. find worthy of tasing.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re a callous piece of shit, Paul. Admit it.  If it were your kid, or your sister being tased for &#8217;squirming&#8217; would you really be so flip about it?  Your entries on the Hole here essentially all boil down to keyboard warrior crap.  You&#8217;re disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/19/help-help-im-being-repressed/#comment-110780</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aided by 'tough cop' movies, North American police have been moving in a gradually more and more militaristic 'command &#38; control" attitude.  In past decades, cops might tell you to shut up; now, the new generation of police eagerly await the chance to taser-torture and baton-torture such heinous crimes as "that kids answer was sarcastic" and "he asked me why I was grabbing him"

Here is what I curse the pathetic morons above who praised 4 officers tasing a man handcuffed on the ground:  may your son or daughter one day have be tased and have their front teeth kicked out by the next generation of gung-ho policemen, for the crime of sarcasm, the crime of a scoffing raised eyebrow, etc.  

At that moment, let you remember this and think "I'm to blame.  As this was going downhill to police impunity, I applauded it."

Hope your kid stutters the rest of their life after, you punks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aided by &#8216;tough cop&#8217; movies, North American police have been moving in a gradually more and more militaristic &#8216;command &amp; control&#8221; attitude.  In past decades, cops might tell you to shut up; now, the new generation of police eagerly await the chance to taser-torture and baton-torture such heinous crimes as &#8220;that kids answer was sarcastic&#8221; and &#8220;he asked me why I was grabbing him&#8221;</p>
<p>Here is what I curse the pathetic morons above who praised 4 officers tasing a man handcuffed on the ground:  may your son or daughter one day have be tased and have their front teeth kicked out by the next generation of gung-ho policemen, for the crime of sarcasm, the crime of a scoffing raised eyebrow, etc.  </p>
<p>At that moment, let you remember this and think &#8220;I&#8217;m to blame.  As this was going downhill to police impunity, I applauded it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hope your kid stutters the rest of their life after, you punks.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/19/help-help-im-being-repressed/#comment-109807</link>
		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. User-81, you're right in a way and wrong in a way.

I think it appears that it depends on the degree of the assault.

The pie hit Ms. Coulter's face and shoulders.

At high speed, and enough mass, the laws of physics (Force = Mass * Acceleration) tell us that this pie can cause damage to Ms. Coulter, who has freedom of speech and happens to be a lady, whose face is one of her valued assets, like ALL ladies.


Punch a dude in the face, ok.  Don't punch a girl in the face.  Time honored tradition.  Ignored for her, because by heavens, she's a Con !

&lt;blockquote&gt;William Zachary Wolff and Phillip Edgar Smith, both of Tucson, were booked on misdemeanor and felony charges &lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.thebosh.com/archives/2004/10/ann_coulter_all.php

Isn't it remarkable that this news of assualt with a highspeed and light mass object, against free speech did not make headlines and is only found on blogs and youtube?


May these men have this felony tag with them for the rest of their lives, when they apply for even higher ed or jobs.

You wanted to ask me what law Mr. Floria broke.

Does it matter?  I'll defer to someone else for your question.  However, I can say that...

Police told him to leave.  He didn't.  Then, more importantly he resisted arrest and attempt to flee the scene.

When a police car stops your car for any reason.  ANY.  Can you drive away?

Nope.  Then, you're in deep shit.

Driving away automatically puts you in legal trouble, even though the police car may have stopped you without any intent to charge you with anything.

Resisting and Fleeing police arrest.  Enough said.

Mr. Netizen Kim.  You live in Englewood Cliffs?

You're rich enough to pay your traffic tickets.  Drive by the speed limit.  Saves gasoline and benefits public safety.  It's all your fault, basically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. User-81, you&#8217;re right in a way and wrong in a way.</p>
<p>I think it appears that it depends on the degree of the assault.</p>
<p>The pie hit Ms. Coulter&#8217;s face and shoulders.</p>
<p>At high speed, and enough mass, the laws of physics (Force = Mass * Acceleration) tell us that this pie can cause damage to Ms. Coulter, who has freedom of speech and happens to be a lady, whose face is one of her valued assets, like ALL ladies.</p>
<p>Punch a dude in the face, ok.  Don&#8217;t punch a girl in the face.  Time honored tradition.  Ignored for her, because by heavens, she&#8217;s a Con !</p>
<blockquote><p>William Zachary Wolff and Phillip Edgar Smith, both of Tucson, were booked on misdemeanor and felony charges </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.thebosh.com/archives/2004/10/ann_coulter_all.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.thebosh.com/archive.....er_all.php</a></p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it remarkable that this news of assualt with a highspeed and light mass object, against free speech did not make headlines and is only found on blogs and youtube?</p>
<p>May these men have this felony tag with them for the rest of their lives, when they apply for even higher ed or jobs.</p>
<p>You wanted to ask me what law Mr. Floria broke.</p>
<p>Does it matter?  I&#8217;ll defer to someone else for your question.  However, I can say that&#8230;</p>
<p>Police told him to leave.  He didn&#8217;t.  Then, more importantly he resisted arrest and attempt to flee the scene.</p>
<p>When a police car stops your car for any reason.  ANY.  Can you drive away?</p>
<p>Nope.  Then, you&#8217;re in deep shit.</p>
<p>Driving away automatically puts you in legal trouble, even though the police car may have stopped you without any intent to charge you with anything.</p>
<p>Resisting and Fleeing police arrest.  Enough said.</p>
<p>Mr. Netizen Kim.  You live in Englewood Cliffs?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re rich enough to pay your traffic tickets.  Drive by the speed limit.  Saves gasoline and benefits public safety.  It&#8217;s all your fault, basically.</p>
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		<title>By: user-81</title>
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		<dc:creator>user-81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the update, Paul H. (#99). But it looked to me like wjk was implying Meyer was breaking the law &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; the cops tried to remove him, though I may have been misreading his intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the update, Paul H. (#99). But it looked to me like wjk was implying Meyer was breaking the law <i>before</i> the cops tried to remove him, though I may have been misreading his intent.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#97 user-81: "...The guy was a jerk and a grandstander, but can you clear up for me what law he was breaking?"

1) From one of several stories in the local-to-UF paper (Gainesville Sun).  Link at bottom, you'll have to scroll down for this story:

Two officers suspended in Tasering
Sept. 18, 2007

"...UF student Andrew W. Meyer, 21, was being released from the Alachua County jail on his own recognizance Tuesday morning after university police arrested him Monday....

Meyer, a student in the College of Journalism and Communications, questioned Kerry about why he didn't contest the 2004 presidential election and why there had been no moves to impeach President Bush. Officers tried to physically remove him and eventually threatened to use the Taser on Meyer.

Meyer did not comply, according to police, and resisted being handcuffed. He was then shot with the Taser.

Meyer was charged with resisting an officer with violence, a third-degree felony, and disturbing the peace, a second-degree misdemeanor, according to court records. Alachua County court records do not show he has been charged in any other criminal cases in the county.....

- Lise Fisher/The Gainesville Sun

http://www.starbanner.com/article/20070918/NEWS/70918007/1053/BREAKING_NEWS

2) Note that the article quoted above says that he was immediately released from jail by the judge without having to post any bail (this was also mentioned on cable TV news).  However, if you go to this "fellow's" narcissistic web site ("theandrewmeyer.com"), you'll find that as of 1200 hours Pacific Standard Time 20 Sep, "the" Andrew Meyer is pleased to have Himself portrayed as still being incarcerated: 

Quote: 

"Andrew Meyer Arrested for Speaking at Kerry Forum
NOTE:  The following is not posted by Andrew Meyer, but has been posted by his friends.
 
Andrew Meyer is currently incarcerated in Alachua County.  While asking U.S. Senator John Kerry a question during a question and answer period following Kerry's speech at the University of Florida, Meyer was attacked by five police officers, manhandled and tasered.  Fortunately there are videos and many witnesses to this injustice...."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#97 user-81: &#8220;&#8230;The guy was a jerk and a grandstander, but can you clear up for me what law he was breaking?&#8221;</p>
<p>1) From one of several stories in the local-to-UF paper (Gainesville Sun).  Link at bottom, you&#8217;ll have to scroll down for this story:</p>
<p>Two officers suspended in Tasering<br />
Sept. 18, 2007</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;UF student Andrew W. Meyer, 21, was being released from the Alachua County jail on his own recognizance Tuesday morning after university police arrested him Monday&#8230;.</p>
<p>Meyer, a student in the College of Journalism and Communications, questioned Kerry about why he didn&#8217;t contest the 2004 presidential election and why there had been no moves to impeach President Bush. Officers tried to physically remove him and eventually threatened to use the Taser on Meyer.</p>
<p>Meyer did not comply, according to police, and resisted being handcuffed. He was then shot with the Taser.</p>
<p>Meyer was charged with resisting an officer with violence, a third-degree felony, and disturbing the peace, a second-degree misdemeanor, according to court records. Alachua County court records do not show he has been charged in any other criminal cases in the county&#8230;..</p>
<p>- Lise Fisher/The Gainesville Sun</p>
<p><a href="http://www.starbanner.com/article/20070918/NEWS/70918007/1053/BREAKING_NEWS" rel="nofollow">http://www.starbanner.com/arti.....AKING_NEWS</a></p>
<p>2) Note that the article quoted above says that he was immediately released from jail by the judge without having to post any bail (this was also mentioned on cable TV news).  However, if you go to this &#8220;fellow&#8217;s&#8221; narcissistic web site (&#8221;theandrewmeyer.com&#8221;), you&#8217;ll find that as of 1200 hours Pacific Standard Time 20 Sep, &#8220;the&#8221; Andrew Meyer is pleased to have Himself portrayed as still being incarcerated: </p>
<p>Quote: </p>
<p>&#8220;Andrew Meyer Arrested for Speaking at Kerry Forum<br />
NOTE:  The following is not posted by Andrew Meyer, but has been posted by his friends.</p>
<p>Andrew Meyer is currently incarcerated in Alachua County.  While asking U.S. Senator John Kerry a question during a question and answer period following Kerry&#8217;s speech at the University of Florida, Meyer was attacked by five police officers, manhandled and tasered.  Fortunately there are videos and many witnesses to this injustice&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Netizen Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/19/help-help-im-being-repressed/#comment-109751</link>
		<dc:creator>Netizen Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe that guy should call the White House.

My 60 year old father, who goes to Korea every once in a while, got
apprended by Korean police for DWI. My father said he was subjected
to rough treatment by the cop. 

So what does my old man do? He called the Blue House and demanded to speak
to President Roh. Roh was apparently unavailable but my pop did get to
chew the ear off of some poor staff member.

The next day, the cop came to my father to apologize and offered to pay for
any injuries, etc.

I am not making this up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe that guy should call the White House.</p>
<p>My 60 year old father, who goes to Korea every once in a while, got<br />
apprended by Korean police for DWI. My father said he was subjected<br />
to rough treatment by the cop. </p>
<p>So what does my old man do? He called the Blue House and demanded to speak<br />
to President Roh. Roh was apparently unavailable but my pop did get to<br />
chew the ear off of some poor staff member.</p>
<p>The next day, the cop came to my father to apologize and offered to pay for<br />
any injuries, etc.</p>
<p>I am not making this up.</p>
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		<title>By: user-81</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/19/help-help-im-being-repressed/#comment-109743</link>
		<dc:creator>user-81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wjk:
"And why should the police suffer a bruise or a torn muscle or a broken bone from a law breaking person?"

The guy was a jerk and a grandstander, but can you clear up for me what law he was breaking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wjk:<br />
&#8220;And why should the police suffer a bruise or a torn muscle or a broken bone from a law breaking person?&#8221;</p>
<p>The guy was a jerk and a grandstander, but can you clear up for me what law he was breaking?</p>
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		<title>By: user-81</title>
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		<dc:creator>user-81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wjk wrote:
"You Libs think it’s okay to throw pies at Ann Coulter?

Why?

That’s assault.

Legally, it’s assault, and if I’m not mistaken, that’s a freaking felony."

You're mistaken. This was a misdemeanor. 

http://wc.arizona.edu/papers/98/236/01_4.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wjk wrote:<br />
&#8220;You Libs think it’s okay to throw pies at Ann Coulter?</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>That’s assault.</p>
<p>Legally, it’s assault, and if I’m not mistaken, that’s a freaking felony.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re mistaken. This was a misdemeanor. </p>
<p><a href="http://wc.arizona.edu/papers/98/236/01_4.html" rel="nofollow">http://wc.arizona.edu/papers/98/236/01_4.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: What is wrong with America today? &#171; m a r k a n d e y a</title>
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		<dc:creator>What is wrong with America today? &#171; m a r k a n d e y a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Marmot&#8217;s Hole has a thread on the same subject and I&#8217;m sorry to say that some people are actually defending the cops [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Marmot&#8217;s Hole has a thread on the same subject and I&#8217;m sorry to say that some people are actually defending the cops [...]</p>
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		<title>By: snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Um, wjk, Bush WAS voted out in ‘04, only for him to steal it. Shouldn’t say such a thing when the “voting out” did happen, only to be illegally stolen."

"No, the fact that Bush was allowed to steal the election while people such as you supported such an action, and while others didn’t rise up and revolt against such an action," 

"they will always use excessive force, that is how they are trained and that is what is expected of them." 

"however bad or jolting this clip may be, it’s far better than looking at the bodies of dead black kids on the street who were shot by the police for no particular reason."

Where do you guys get this stuff? And everybody says neo-cons are nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Um, wjk, Bush WAS voted out in ‘04, only for him to steal it. Shouldn’t say such a thing when the “voting out” did happen, only to be illegally stolen.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, the fact that Bush was allowed to steal the election while people such as you supported such an action, and while others didn’t rise up and revolt against such an action,&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;they will always use excessive force, that is how they are trained and that is what is expected of them.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;however bad or jolting this clip may be, it’s far better than looking at the bodies of dead black kids on the street who were shot by the police for no particular reason.&#8221;</p>
<p>Where do you guys get this stuff? And everybody says neo-cons are nuts.</p>
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