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	<title>Comments on: Well, Ugly Girls are Good with Their Hands</title>
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		<title>By: All We Are Saying&#8230; Is Give Pimps a Chance &#124; The Marmot's Hole</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/13/well-ugly-girls-are-good-with-their-hands/#comment-189925</link>
		<dc:creator>All We Are Saying&#8230; Is Give Pimps a Chance &#124; The Marmot's Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] having an apparent expert in the field as head of state, police are cracking down on the massage parlors of Jangan-dong, leading to a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] having an apparent expert in the field as head of state, police are cracking down on the massage parlors of Jangan-dong, leading to a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Railwaycharm</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/13/well-ugly-girls-are-good-with-their-hands/#comment-140813</link>
		<dc:creator>Railwaycharm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMB is a good Christian man to recognize that all G-d’s creatures have their place. If you have to turn down an ugly girl, turn her face down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMB is a good Christian man to recognize that all G-d’s creatures have their place. If you have to turn down an ugly girl, turn her face down.</p>
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		<title>By: WangKon936</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/13/well-ugly-girls-are-good-with-their-hands/#comment-140775</link>
		<dc:creator>WangKon936</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugly girls compensate for their lack of looks by trying harder.

Not just in massage, but in pretty much everything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugly girls compensate for their lack of looks by trying harder.</p>
<p>Not just in massage, but in pretty much everything else.</p>
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		<title>By: There&#8217;s Lots of Reasons to Hate Eliot Spitzer&#8230; &#124; The Marmot's Hole</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/13/well-ugly-girls-are-good-with-their-hands/#comment-140730</link>
		<dc:creator>There&#8217;s Lots of Reasons to Hate Eliot Spitzer&#8230; &#124; The Marmot's Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Anyway, this is more reason I&#8217;m glad I live in Korea. Here, politicians will resign for any number of reasons &#8212; some better than others &#8212; but banging prostitutes is NOT one of them. Heck, our current head of state has even shared pointers in the media on how to pick out massage girls. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Anyway, this is more reason I&#8217;m glad I live in Korea. Here, politicians will resign for any number of reasons &#8212; some better than others &#8212; but banging prostitutes is NOT one of them. Heck, our current head of state has even shared pointers in the media on how to pick out massage girls. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dda</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/13/well-ugly-girls-are-good-with-their-hands/#comment-107810</link>
		<dc:creator>dda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;it’s time to form a committee of some sort to put on a show of cleaning up the party after some scandal&lt;/blockquote&gt;The People's Committee For Political Reform and Ethics. Sounds like a Berkeley student group...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>it’s time to form a committee of some sort to put on a show of cleaning up the party after some scandal</p></blockquote>
<p>The People&#8217;s Committee For Political Reform and Ethics. Sounds like a Berkeley student group&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lord, what Oranckay wrote . . . especially the last paragraph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lord, what Oranckay wrote . . . especially the last paragraph.</p>
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		<title>By: oranckay</title>
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		<dc:creator>oranckay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Andy. 

Most of Lee Myung-bak's supporters will look at this and think it is very becoming behavior for the businessman he was in Thailand working for Hyundai when he um, acquired this piece of wisdom. None of them expect him to have any personal sense of ethics or morality at all. If anything the story will reassure them that he will not try to be the moralist Roh has been at the expense of.... well, anything that being moral and principled can cost you. Even people who share his his brand of ultra-right Korean protestantism (the type who wave American flags at their anti-NK protests and wanted Da Vinci Code banned) are not going to see this as a major flaw. 

This was true for Lee Hoi-chang, too. Most of the people who voted for him cannot tell you, and indeed do not even feel the need to believe, that there wasn't probably something illegal in the way both his sons evaded military service. 

When Lee MB was in North Chungcheong this summer the provincial governor told him that if he was a Joseon era governor he would have sent a gisaeng belonging to the provincial government house to Lee's hotel room in the night, and that he was sorry he was unable to do so. Lee responded by saying, "You mean the one that came last night wasn't sent by you?" In other words, this latest episode isn't even going to surprise anyone who has been paying attention. 

Anyways, so while I agree with Andy in principle, I do think the segment of the population (mostly older and rural types or upper middle class Seoulites who got where they are through less-than-ethical means) that supports candidates like Lee MB and Lee HC is dwindling, and in a very tight race comments like these could have an influence among younger types. 

In the meantime what I think is especially unfortunate is that progressive candidates get to appeal to voters who won't stand for a slimebag in office just by virtue of having the moral high ground (and I blame Roh for making a lot of voters think that relatively principled politics is bad for the economy). 

There are plenty of good people in the GNP who are fine and principled people but don't stand a chance in that party, where until now they have been used generally only for the value of their names when it's time to form a committee of some sort to put on a show of cleaning up the party after some scandal, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Andy. </p>
<p>Most of Lee Myung-bak&#8217;s supporters will look at this and think it is very becoming behavior for the businessman he was in Thailand working for Hyundai when he um, acquired this piece of wisdom. None of them expect him to have any personal sense of ethics or morality at all. If anything the story will reassure them that he will not try to be the moralist Roh has been at the expense of&#8230;. well, anything that being moral and principled can cost you. Even people who share his his brand of ultra-right Korean protestantism (the type who wave American flags at their anti-NK protests and wanted Da Vinci Code banned) are not going to see this as a major flaw. </p>
<p>This was true for Lee Hoi-chang, too. Most of the people who voted for him cannot tell you, and indeed do not even feel the need to believe, that there wasn&#8217;t probably something illegal in the way both his sons evaded military service. </p>
<p>When Lee MB was in North Chungcheong this summer the provincial governor told him that if he was a Joseon era governor he would have sent a gisaeng belonging to the provincial government house to Lee&#8217;s hotel room in the night, and that he was sorry he was unable to do so. Lee responded by saying, &#8220;You mean the one that came last night wasn&#8217;t sent by you?&#8221; In other words, this latest episode isn&#8217;t even going to surprise anyone who has been paying attention. </p>
<p>Anyways, so while I agree with Andy in principle, I do think the segment of the population (mostly older and rural types or upper middle class Seoulites who got where they are through less-than-ethical means) that supports candidates like Lee MB and Lee HC is dwindling, and in a very tight race comments like these could have an influence among younger types. </p>
<p>In the meantime what I think is especially unfortunate is that progressive candidates get to appeal to voters who won&#8217;t stand for a slimebag in office just by virtue of having the moral high ground (and I blame Roh for making a lot of voters think that relatively principled politics is bad for the economy). </p>
<p>There are plenty of good people in the GNP who are fine and principled people but don&#8217;t stand a chance in that party, where until now they have been used generally only for the value of their names when it&#8217;s time to form a committee of some sort to put on a show of cleaning up the party after some scandal, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: seouldout</title>
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		<dc:creator>seouldout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL1PIoxH9ZI" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; is alright lookin'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL1PIoxH9ZI" rel="nofollow">here</a> is alright lookin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: arthjourneyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>arthjourneyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is true.  +1 vote</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is true.  +1 vote</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think this will mean much.  Most folks aren't going to vote for Lee because they think he is the most moral guy on the block (that was Roh's shtick).  They are going to vote for him because he is seen to be a pragmatic problem-solver.  This little bump won't change that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this will mean much.  Most folks aren&#8217;t going to vote for Lee because they think he is the most moral guy on the block (that was Roh&#8217;s shtick).  They are going to vote for him because he is seen to be a pragmatic problem-solver.  This little bump won&#8217;t change that.</p>
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