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		<title>By: ●~*</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/06/police-bust-group-sex-website/comment-page-1/#comment-105754</link>
		<dc:creator>●~*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, no problem in sex between consenting adults. Paying for sex? Ok, if the partner does not sell sex to many and unspecified persons. No problem in paying for sex, either, if one does not perceive   that the sex partner is a kind of person who sells its sex to many and unspecified persons.
 But why do you pay for sex? Haha. Yours is so small and soft that you cannot give your parter  any but receive some to be paid?

Threesome involving a married couple and one is, generally, unpunishable. Adultery needs charge by one spouse to be indicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, no problem in sex between consenting adults. Paying for sex? Ok, if the partner does not sell sex to many and unspecified persons. No problem in paying for sex, either, if one does not perceive   that the sex partner is a kind of person who sells its sex to many and unspecified persons.<br />
 But why do you pay for sex? Haha. Yours is so small and soft that you cannot give your parter  any but receive some to be paid?</p>
<p>Threesome involving a married couple and one is, generally, unpunishable. Adultery needs charge by one spouse to be indicted.</p>
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		<title>By: Maekchu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maekchu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10  I read it differently especially the part that said......

"Married couples and lovers engaged in partner swapping through the website, police said."

These married couples and lovers participating apparently were part of the "scores" that were arrested.  I don't think these particular women were being paid for sex.  They just wanted to participate but were arrested.  This goes back to my original point....why is consentual group sex in a free and democratic society considered illegal?

As far as adultery is concerned...if a husband and wife are enjoying a threesome together, which one is considered to be performing the adultery?  See my point now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10  I read it differently especially the part that said&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Married couples and lovers engaged in partner swapping through the website, police said.&#8221;</p>
<p>These married couples and lovers participating apparently were part of the &#8220;scores&#8221; that were arrested.  I don&#8217;t think these particular women were being paid for sex.  They just wanted to participate but were arrested.  This goes back to my original point&#8230;.why is consentual group sex in a free and democratic society considered illegal?</p>
<p>As far as adultery is concerned&#8230;if a husband and wife are enjoying a threesome together, which one is considered to be performing the adultery?  See my point now?</p>
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		<title>By: hardyandtiny</title>
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		<dc:creator>hardyandtiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn japanese culture</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn japanese culture</p>
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		<title>By: hoju_saram</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/06/police-bust-group-sex-website/comment-page-1/#comment-105630</link>
		<dc:creator>hoju_saram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Perhaps you just haven’t caught up with the Korean media&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here's hoping I never do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Perhaps you just haven’t caught up with the Korean media</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping I never do.</p>
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		<title>By: mjw</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hoju... Perhaps you just haven't caught up with the Korean media. Save the cultural relativism for... well, just save it.

But anyways, like I said before, sex between two consenting adults, whether money changes hands or not, should not be illegal. Pimping, and other nasty aspects of the sex trade are clearly bad and require no comment here. But consensual sex? Sounds good to me!

And that bubuplus guy... Smart business man (until he got caught). Give the people what they want, I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hoju&#8230; Perhaps you just haven&#8217;t caught up with the Korean media. Save the cultural relativism for&#8230; well, just save it.</p>
<p>But anyways, like I said before, sex between two consenting adults, whether money changes hands or not, should not be illegal. Pimping, and other nasty aspects of the sex trade are clearly bad and require no comment here. But consensual sex? Sounds good to me!</p>
<p>And that bubuplus guy&#8230; Smart business man (until he got caught). Give the people what they want, I say.</p>
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		<title>By: hoju_saram</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/06/police-bust-group-sex-website/comment-page-1/#comment-105603</link>
		<dc:creator>hoju_saram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4 Iceberg, I didn't miss the line either. &lt;i&gt;There are several million similar websites out there,” said a police official.&lt;/i&gt; 

Kind of reminds me of the other throw-away lines used in the englishee teachers article.

&lt;i&gt;Police explained that not only S but &lt;b&gt;most&lt;/b&gt; foreign English teachers teach English by day and smoke marijuana by night.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;The case of “R”, a 26-year old American who smoked marijuana with his Korean girlfriend, is a &lt;b&gt;typical&lt;/b&gt; case.&lt;/i&gt;

All these lines come from a "source" - no mention of names, of course, or of any figures to back it up. Korea's media is juvenile. In the west, including Japan, most big papers follw a code of ethics fairly closely, and these sort of lines would never, ever get published (unless it were in the pages of a sensationalist magazine or some other trash). Who remembers the recent "beware the ugly white teacher" headline? Can you imagine a "beware the ugly yellow asian?" article in a mainstream newspaper in any other OECD country?

I guess some sections of Korea just haven't caught up with the rest of the world yet, the media being a prime example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4 Iceberg, I didn&#8217;t miss the line either. <i>There are several million similar websites out there,” said a police official.</i> </p>
<p>Kind of reminds me of the other throw-away lines used in the englishee teachers article.</p>
<p><i>Police explained that not only S but <b>most</b> foreign English teachers teach English by day and smoke marijuana by night.</i></p>
<p><i>The case of “R”, a 26-year old American who smoked marijuana with his Korean girlfriend, is a <b>typical</b> case.</i></p>
<p>All these lines come from a &#8220;source&#8221; - no mention of names, of course, or of any figures to back it up. Korea&#8217;s media is juvenile. In the west, including Japan, most big papers follw a code of ethics fairly closely, and these sort of lines would never, ever get published (unless it were in the pages of a sensationalist magazine or some other trash). Who remembers the recent &#8220;beware the ugly white teacher&#8221; headline? Can you imagine a &#8220;beware the ugly yellow asian?&#8221; article in a mainstream newspaper in any other OECD country?</p>
<p>I guess some sections of Korea just haven&#8217;t caught up with the rest of the world yet, the media being a prime example.</p>
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		<title>By: MigukNamja</title>
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		<dc:creator>MigukNamja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careb,

Did you miss the clincher:

"The women were paid to have sex."

Getting paid to have sex is the textbook definition of prostitution. Prostitution is illegal in Korea. Case closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careb,</p>
<p>Did you miss the clincher:</p>
<p>&#8220;The women were paid to have sex.&#8221;</p>
<p>Getting paid to have sex is the textbook definition of prostitution. Prostitution is illegal in Korea. Case closed.</p>
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		<title>By: Careb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Careb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The men paid to have sex. The women were paid to have sex. This was a prostitution ring, not a group sex site.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That's an over simplification. 

They paid because swinging and group sex are black market commodities in Korea.

In a normal country, this kind of thing is legal and considered the private affairs of the individuals involved and therefore, no extravagant fees are paid to "play" other than a typical website membership fee for the right (and proof of age from a credit card) of communicating in a secure, anonymous forum with other like minded people (wife-swapping and gang bangs are still taboo pretty much everywhere and not many people want to be flushed out as a sex fiend/slut).

It seems like the KNP bust a couple of sites like this every year. If there really are "several million similar websites out there", then it's time for the government and Korean society to seriously re-think its official sex values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The men paid to have sex. The women were paid to have sex. This was a prostitution ring, not a group sex site.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s an over simplification. </p>
<p>They paid because swinging and group sex are black market commodities in Korea.</p>
<p>In a normal country, this kind of thing is legal and considered the private affairs of the individuals involved and therefore, no extravagant fees are paid to &#8220;play&#8221; other than a typical website membership fee for the right (and proof of age from a credit card) of communicating in a secure, anonymous forum with other like minded people (wife-swapping and gang bangs are still taboo pretty much everywhere and not many people want to be flushed out as a sex fiend/slut).</p>
<p>It seems like the KNP bust a couple of sites like this every year. If there really are &#8220;several million similar websites out there&#8221;, then it&#8217;s time for the government and Korean society to seriously re-think its official sex values.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the term, "illegal sex parties."

Are there legal sex parties going on? Which government branch is responsible for issuing licenses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the term, &#8220;illegal sex parties.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are there legal sex parties going on? Which government branch is responsible for issuing licenses?</p>
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		<title>By: mjw</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what's wrong with consenting adults paying for sex?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what&#8217;s wrong with consenting adults paying for sex?</p>
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