as for rap, I have only two words: Liquid Swords.

Popular music is a matter of personal taste, open to endless debate. I own 900+ “race” (blues) records, most by dead black men, and plenty of “real” R&B and soul and funk, and I consider that the roots of all that really matters in popular music. While I remain open to persuasion musically, I must say that once “rap” lost a certain novelty value to me — clever rhymes and defiant attitudes — (by 1982 or so?) I lost interest. But it’s hard to dismiss that most accessible genre’s planet-wide appeal, low musical barrier to entry and adaptability to any language. Only punk comes close to that in my book.

For good hip hop, try Dalek.

http://www.myspace.com/dalek

If you like shoegazer, be sure to check out his 2004 album “Absence.”

Vast majority of people like it simple. Because they have uncomplicated minds.

That’s what I’m saying. If that’s you, then rap and hip-hop are your music. Just quit trying to convince the reset of us it has “meaning”.

“dead white guy” [anything], “reverse engineering”. Both, I’ve only heard of mention by white people. Incredibly subtle racism. People in East Asia aren’t these freaks who know no rest and lack original ideas, but only know how to copy stuff white people made and add a little improvement on top of those dead white guys.

If the shoe fits…

Don’t let facts get in the way of your aZn PRyDE.

i find it quite amusing that no one will call out some drugged up white guy simply yelling/screaming at the top of his lungs as not being music.

Happens all the time. But no one is going to just say that to some random kyopo, which is why you haven’t heard it.

“dead white guy” [anything], “reverse engineering”. Both, I’ve only heard of mention by white people. Incredibly subtle racism. People in East Asia aren’t these freaks who know no rest and lack original ideas, but only know how to copy stuff white people made and add a little improvement on top of those dead white guys. But, some red neck will always mention so, among their inner circles.

like someone already noted, there was a time when white people looked down on blues, jazz, and other forms of American Black Music that was a major hit, commercially. The reason was quite simple. Black people were the musicians.

“black music isn’t music”

It’s music — it’s just not complicated, layered, disciplined, and involved music, like dead white guy music.

Don’t read racism into every criticism of rap. Most folks reading this blog probably find opera hard on the ears, but that doesn’t mean they’re biased against dead white people. As far as my tastes go, the music died about twenty years ago.