You think Koreans hate the Japanese? Get a Mongolian started about the Chinese:
That’s some hardcore shit. There’s quite a flame war going on at Youtube, for those who enjoy that sort of thing.
(HT to reader)
‘Fuck Them Chinese’
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The most base form of pop culture (Hip Hop) meets the most retarded form of politics (nationalism). That aside, AFAIK he could be singing about chilling in his Gur and drinking fermented horse milk on his stoop with his homies. Care to translate the more inflammatory lyrics?
“The most base form of pop culture”
Well, I wouldn’t say that. After all, doing hip hop is basically ripping off P-Funk.
Can’t judge the lyrics, but the rap music really needs some work.
A Mongolian version of bad rap? No thanks.
I’m truly distressed to hear that the abomination known as rap has penetrated that far. I prefer my classical vision of the Mongols — riding through the steppes with gleeful abandon, leaving mountains of skulls in their wake.
That way, at least the suffering of their victims is finite.
Dschinghis Khan?
Paul,
Great stuff !
…riding through the steppes with gleeful abandon, leaving mountains of skulls in their wake.
That way, at least the suffering of their victims is finite.
That’s the funniest thing I’ve read all week !
Well duh. It’s [c]rap after all, not music…
Why is rap the most “base” for of pop culture, “vile,” and crap? Given hip hop’s extremely wide influence and influence on pretty much every other aspect of the culture, from its most recently commercial forms to the many ingenious lyrical forms that even warranted some classic verses being included in The Norton Anthology of American Poetry, “rap” is no more a singular entity to be dismissed than “rock and roll” or even “classical music” (back when certain types of baroque music was called “vulgar” for classist reasons, for appealing to the masses).
Yeah, I’ll get flamed for this, but I get flamed for whatever I say here, so what’s the diff?
I sense the same old patrician white racism that “rap isn’t music” that go soul music labeled “race music” in the early 20th century, and blues “vulgar” music for the most “base instincts.”
Now, I’ll probably be called a racist for calling these sentiments racist, or I’ll be asked to “prove” these “accusations.” I’m not racist, and I have no “proof.” I’m just calling a spade a spade (hehe), the way I see it, and the fact that this is a discourse of “black music isn’t music” that’s been going on for generations.
But no, RAP is different, right? Whatever. Flame on.
M: I sense the same old patrician white racism that “rap isn’t music” that go soul music labeled “race music” in the early 20th century, and blues “vulgar” music for the most “base instincts.”
Plenty of people believe that rap isn’t music. Heck, blacks above a certain age will not listen to that garbage. Bill Cosby certainly thinks it’s gutter music. I suspect a lot of people follow it just to be cool.
@8:
Don’t read racism into every criticism of rap. Most folks reading this blog probably find opera hard on the ears, but that doesn’t mean they’re biased against dead white people. As far as my tastes go, the music died about twenty years ago.
It’s music — it’s just not complicated, layered, disciplined, and involved music, like dead white guy music.
this is racist. Rap is music. I’ve only met white guys, usually older ones, who would say they listen to everything except rap. The issue isn’t so much of the vulgar lyrics and content of the songs. Some people actually like the addictive same theme going around over and over again. Vast majority of people like it simple. Because they have uncomplicated minds. Hey, mud slinging political ads tend to swing elections every year and that’s a fact. Hit songs have recurring catchy tunes repeating.
“dead white guy” [anything], “reverse engineering”. Both, I’ve only heard of mention by white people. Incredibly subtle racism. People in East Asia aren’t these freaks who know no rest and lack original ideas, but only know how to copy stuff white people made and add a little improvement on top of those dead white guys. But, some red neck will always mention so, among their inner circles.
like someone already noted, there was a time when white people looked down on blues, jazz, and other forms of American Black Music that was a major hit, commercially. The reason was quite simple. Black people were the musicians.
i find it quite amusing that no one will call out some drugged up white guy simply yelling/screaming at the top of his lungs as not being music.
baduk, jr. wrote:
That’s what I’m saying. If that’s you, then rap and hip-hop are your music. Just quit trying to convince the reset of us it has “meaning”.
If the shoe fits…
Don’t let facts get in the way of your aZn PRyDE.
Happens all the time. But no one is going to just say that to some random kyopo, which is why you haven’t heard it.
I like Mongolian gangsta rap for some reason. Maybe because I think the sinister sounding language fits the genre, kind of like the way death metal is particularly good when set to Latin verse.
For good hip hop, try Dalek.
http://www.myspace.com/dalek
If you like shoegazer, be sure to check out his 2004 album “Absence.”
I’m reminded of the late, great comic Sam Kinison, who said that rap musicians are always grabbing their crotches when they perform “because they don’t play any fucking instruments!”
Popular music is a matter of personal taste, open to endless debate. I own 900+ “race” (blues) records, most by dead black men, and plenty of “real” R&B and soul and funk, and I consider that the roots of all that really matters in popular music. While I remain open to persuasion musically, I must say that once “rap” lost a certain novelty value to me — clever rhymes and defiant attitudes — (by 1982 or so?) I lost interest. But it’s hard to dismiss that most accessible genre’s planet-wide appeal, low musical barrier to entry and adaptability to any language. Only punk comes close to that in my book.
I’m still laughing at the guy who used Bill Cosby as an example.
as for rap, I have only two words: Liquid Swords.
i have no idea what they are saying, but i must say Mongolian sounds very gangsta to me. i liked the music. can’t say for content which i can’t understand.
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