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		<title>By: Brendon Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/03/aid-workers-my-ass/#comment-105076</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 06:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; of Los Angeles, just part of it. I'll leave it to you to figure out which part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not <b>all</b> of Los Angeles, just part of it. I&#8217;ll leave it to you to figure out which part.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/03/aid-workers-my-ass/#comment-105063</link>
		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there's no way those Afghan kids were starved to parrot.

more likely induced with goodies.

Goodies that Iran couldn't provide.

Iran provides bullets, but not kiddie goodies.

I've been inside Yong San to learn English from US Army Lt's.  It was a warp to the United States.  Everything from miguk cars, miguk stop signs, miguk chips and pop, you name it.

More like Mr. Carr's definition of a colony than Los Angeles is to the ROK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s no way those Afghan kids were starved to parrot.</p>
<p>more likely induced with goodies.</p>
<p>Goodies that Iran couldn&#8217;t provide.</p>
<p>Iran provides bullets, but not kiddie goodies.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been inside Yong San to learn English from US Army Lt&#8217;s.  It was a warp to the United States.  Everything from miguk cars, miguk stop signs, miguk chips and pop, you name it.</p>
<p>More like Mr. Carr&#8217;s definition of a colony than Los Angeles is to the ROK.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/03/aid-workers-my-ass/#comment-105062</link>
		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm just kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/03/aid-workers-my-ass/#comment-105061</link>
		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6973021.stm

bbc news.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/09/01/skorea.hostages.freed/index.html?iref=newssearch

cnn news.

"Christian Aid Workers."

Yong San is different.  It is a US colony, oops, base, um, that was under more US govt control than ROK control, and defended with arms.  It took over a Japanese colonial military base to keep Seoul in check.

I'm sure wjk is right on here, and when life ends, you'll be saying 

wjk was right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6973021.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asi.....973021.stm</a></p>
<p>bbc news.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/09/01/skorea.hostages.freed/index.html?iref=newssearch" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/.....newssearch</a></p>
<p>cnn news.</p>
<p>&#8220;Christian Aid Workers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yong San is different.  It is a US colony, oops, base, um, that was under more US govt control than ROK control, and defended with arms.  It took over a Japanese colonial military base to keep Seoul in check.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure wjk is right on here, and when life ends, you&#8217;ll be saying </p>
<p>wjk was right.</p>
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		<title>By: abcdefg</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/03/aid-workers-my-ass/#comment-105060</link>
		<dc:creator>abcdefg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;To get back to the original point at issue: if I go somewhere to play golf, and I tip the caddy, I still did not go to the golf course to tip the caddy. And those missionaries did not go to Afghanistan to provide aid.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Technically yes but still practically there is intersection between the two. They are not in the latter sense mutually exclusive. I go to the golf course to tip the caddy, but in the process play many rounds of golf. What's important? The technical label ("caddy tipper") or the actual activity? Also, nobody - save perhaps that church - describes these fools as "aid workers." They've been known as "Korean missionaries" the world over and even "missionary" is ambiguous enough these days. -- I don't suppose it means the Korean missionaries starved and whipped Afghanis into a room and had them sing happy songs in Korean lyrics? Seolma! No way that's been on youtube!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>To get back to the original point at issue: if I go somewhere to play golf, and I tip the caddy, I still did not go to the golf course to tip the caddy. And those missionaries did not go to Afghanistan to provide aid.</p></blockquote>
<p>Technically yes but still practically there is intersection between the two. They are not in the latter sense mutually exclusive. I go to the golf course to tip the caddy, but in the process play many rounds of golf. What&#8217;s important? The technical label (&#8221;caddy tipper&#8221;) or the actual activity? Also, nobody - save perhaps that church - describes these fools as &#8220;aid workers.&#8221; They&#8217;ve been known as &#8220;Korean missionaries&#8221; the world over and even &#8220;missionary&#8221; is ambiguous enough these days. &#8212; I don&#8217;t suppose it means the Korean missionaries starved and whipped Afghanis into a room and had them sing happy songs in Korean lyrics? Seolma! No way that&#8217;s been on youtube!</p>
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		<title>By: Herod</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/03/aid-workers-my-ass/#comment-105054</link>
		<dc:creator>Herod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with wjk, that's not a Korean colony anymore than Yongsan is a US colony.
Re the other point - ask any Korean in Fairfax VA and they'll tell you there is an awful lot of welfare fraud in the Korean community, i.e. employed people claiming welfare, as is perhaps to be expected when so many people are working semi-formally in family/clan businesses. Which is not to say that they are scamming Uncle Sam any more than another ethnicity, but still.
To get back to the original point at issue: if I go somewhere to play golf, and I tip the caddy, I still did not go to the golf course to tip the caddy. And those missionaries did not go to Afghanistan to provide aid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with wjk, that&#8217;s not a Korean colony anymore than Yongsan is a US colony.<br />
Re the other point - ask any Korean in Fairfax VA and they&#8217;ll tell you there is an awful lot of welfare fraud in the Korean community, i.e. employed people claiming welfare, as is perhaps to be expected when so many people are working semi-formally in family/clan businesses. Which is not to say that they are scamming Uncle Sam any more than another ethnicity, but still.<br />
To get back to the original point at issue: if I go somewhere to play golf, and I tip the caddy, I still did not go to the golf course to tip the caddy. And those missionaries did not go to Afghanistan to provide aid.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/03/aid-workers-my-ass/#comment-105052</link>
		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, I heard of Los Angeles, or Na Sung, but that's not a real colony.

Plus, like I said elsewhere or here, people under 40 years old and immigrating learn the local English language, even pick up on Spanish and do a pretty good job fitting into greater America.

about the only leechers I can think of are old Koreans who came strictly via family invites, hardly worked a day in the US, and manage to collect welfare and medicare, although they hardly worked for either, but their sons and daughters claim they worked their butts off to deserve their parents to get it.  But, I disagree.  But, that's just me.\

But, come on, Mr. Carr.  That's not a Korean colony.  ROK govt has no power over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, I heard of Los Angeles, or Na Sung, but that&#8217;s not a real colony.</p>
<p>Plus, like I said elsewhere or here, people under 40 years old and immigrating learn the local English language, even pick up on Spanish and do a pretty good job fitting into greater America.</p>
<p>about the only leechers I can think of are old Koreans who came strictly via family invites, hardly worked a day in the US, and manage to collect welfare and medicare, although they hardly worked for either, but their sons and daughters claim they worked their butts off to deserve their parents to get it.  But, I disagree.  But, that&#8217;s just me.\</p>
<p>But, come on, Mr. Carr.  That&#8217;s not a Korean colony.  ROK govt has no power over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zonath</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/03/aid-workers-my-ass/#comment-105042</link>
		<dc:creator>Zonath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to be losing count...  is this the fourth or the fifth thread in which WJK used the 'it's okay that X is being assholes, because whitey did worse in the past' reasoning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to be losing count&#8230;  is this the fourth or the fifth thread in which WJK used the &#8216;it&#8217;s okay that X is being assholes, because whitey did worse in the past&#8217; reasoning?</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/03/aid-workers-my-ass/#comment-105040</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am not aware of any South Korean colonies blessed with the Korean Presbyterian Church’s mandate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Is not a colony a place where people go to a foreign country, clump together, speak their own language, eat their own food, engage in their distinctive economic activity and not follow the local laws? Have you never heard of Los Angeles, California?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am not aware of any South Korean colonies blessed with the Korean Presbyterian Church’s mandate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Is not a colony a place where people go to a foreign country, clump together, speak their own language, eat their own food, engage in their distinctive economic activity and not follow the local laws? Have you never heard of Los Angeles, California?</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/03/aid-workers-my-ass/#comment-105022</link>
		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, but from their viewpoint, they're doing good by at least telling you.  That's all the NT demands.  Let people make an informed choice.

Especially considering they are doing this not at gun-point like the Europeans did for centuries, what exactly is so wrong about this?

Is this some sort of retrospective white guilt over making colonies and abusing the natives with the pretext of religion?

I am not aware of any South Korean colonies blessed with the Korean Presbyterian Church's mandate.

I seriously am not.

Objectively, this is as harmless as grass roots, door to door campaigning for a US Presidential Candidate.

No harm, no foul.  

Don't shoot the religion down, because whites and Arabs chose wars to black eye the religion.  Koreans are clean on this matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, but from their viewpoint, they&#8217;re doing good by at least telling you.  That&#8217;s all the NT demands.  Let people make an informed choice.</p>
<p>Especially considering they are doing this not at gun-point like the Europeans did for centuries, what exactly is so wrong about this?</p>
<p>Is this some sort of retrospective white guilt over making colonies and abusing the natives with the pretext of religion?</p>
<p>I am not aware of any South Korean colonies blessed with the Korean Presbyterian Church&#8217;s mandate.</p>
<p>I seriously am not.</p>
<p>Objectively, this is as harmless as grass roots, door to door campaigning for a US Presidential Candidate.</p>
<p>No harm, no foul.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t shoot the religion down, because whites and Arabs chose wars to black eye the religion.  Koreans are clean on this matter.</p>
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