Political Correctness, or Konglish?

Apparently we will now have to make a “mandatory donation” to fly out of Korea. “Mandatory donation”?

29 Comments

  1. Gravatar SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    How much of that is going to be sent to North Korea?

  2. Gravatar hoju_saram your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    I guess this is one way of making foreigners pay for Korean aid, when clearly, the Korean government doesn’t want a bar of it:

    http://www.nationmaster.com/gr.....per-capita

    Korea is last amoung all OECD nations as an economic aid donor, per capita. Also, I imagine if you subtracted the “aid” that gets pumped into the North, the table would look even grimmer.

  3. Gravatar Seth Gecko your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    Um, I can’t see the comment I just posted, so apologies if it ends up appearing twice.

    Re: the “mandatory donation”:

    Is this legal?

  4. Posted August 30, 2007 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    This is simply a tax. Saying that tax X is goint to pay for expense Y is just a shell game.

  5. Gravatar andru your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Interesting…

    I wonder if adult Korean adoptees are exempt as well. I doubt it actually. They of course exempt the tax on new babies whom they’re exporting however. Wouldn’t want to diminish their most export product.

  6. Gravatar austin your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Foreigners pay for Korean aid — Don’t think so, most of the people I see at Incheon airport are Korean. Actually the average Korean does “donate” a lot of money to the poor — their relatives! In western societies, charity is socialised via higher taxes to pay for welfare.
    Even when our own governments provide foreign aid a small portion is also paid for by foreigners. Foreigners pay taxes whenever they purchase goods and services.
    Anyway the amount of money that will be collected by this tax for foreign aid is still pitiful.

  7. Gravatar SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    #3,
    Like any taxes, the government will probably use some of it to cover the costs involved in the collection and distribution, too.

    #5,

    How do you know these ‘Koreans’ aren’t traveling on a foreign passport?

  8. Posted August 30, 2007 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Yea, I think the idea is that those people with money to fly abroad can afford to pay 1USD extra for a ‘good cause’ on their way to vacationing in Hawaii. To think that foreigners were even considered, let alone targeted, when making this decision is pretty silly considering foreigners make up such a low percentage of the population.

    Calling it a ‘mandatory donation’ is indeed pretty funny.

  9. Posted August 30, 2007 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Wow, I’m in Australia…. How did that happen….

  10. Gravatar peninsular aborigine your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    We used to have a boss that thought “cordially required” was a snazzy way to gild a turd.

  11. Gravatar Wedge your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Why don’t they just tax Koreans with this? They jacked the departure tax on Koreans only right after the Asian short-term dollar loan liqudity, oops, I mean “IMF” crisis, ten years ago. They have the technology to do it again.

  12. Gravatar dogbertt your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    We used to have to pay KRW9000 extra to leave.

  13. Gravatar Wedge your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Foreign Aid:

    “The transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.”

    (Various Attributions)

  14. Gravatar ecorn your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Well, as for the symantics of “mandatory donation,” I am reminded of the “mandatory volunteerism” requirement for many US high school students. It’s neither Konglish nor new. The aforementioned fad started gaining popularity during the Clinton administration.

  15. Gravatar Wedge your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone remember the rest area roach coaches in California back in the 80s, especially on the stretch of the 5 near Camp Pendleton? They’d offer you sanwhiches and beverages and ask for “donations” (they were nominally religious and by law couldn’t charge anything).

    Well, my wise-ass buddy had this conversation:

    Bud: So how much is this Coke?
    Sap: Well, sir, the suggested donation is 50 cents.
    Bud: So by “donation,” you mean payment is voluntary?
    Sap: Well, yes, but everyone pays that, some even pay more.
    Bud: But legally you can’t charge money, right?
    Sap: (Getting flustered) Well, but… everyone pays… but…
    Bud: Thanks for the free Coke. (Leaves)

  16. Posted August 30, 2007 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    Read my lips: No new taxes. Lots of mandatory donations to be imposed on “the rich”, yes, but no new taxes!! The people won’t stand for it.

  17. Gravatar Hatch SZ your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    There is not much difference between the US and Korea on that graph. But I think the graph concerns governmental aid. I would like to see (and have not been able to find) stats on donations by individuals as well as those by governments. The foreign projects by Gates Foundation itself must be greater than many countries. I believe I read somewhere that people in countries with lower taxes tend to donate more per capita.

  18. Gravatar hardyandtiny your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    “We used to have to pay KRW9000 extra to leave.”

    25 beans to leave Cambodia

  19. Gravatar R. Elgin your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    This is announced by the Foreign Ministry!? Since when have these people gone into the tax collection business? Frankly, they do not deserve another ship won from my pocket.

  20. Gravatar leguwan your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    My guess is that they have to cover the bribe money handed over to the Taliban somehow and that was not provided for in the 2007 Budget. So let the ‘rich’ foreigners pay for it!

  21. Posted August 30, 2007 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    peninsular aborigine, I also has a boss who “cordially required” us to do all kinds of stuff. There must be a corresponding Korean phrase, unless we had the same boss (Dr. Koo).

  22. Posted August 30, 2007 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    > donate W1,000 for the global fight against poverty

    I really wonder where this relatively petty money will go, and what for, and how much of it will be eaten up by its own administration…

  23. Gravatar SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    #21,

    That’s the point I was making. In Canada it was at one point proposed by a politician to tax blank CDs and MP3 players. The money was supposedly going to be distributed to artists. Well, that got shot down pretty quick when someone did the math and realized that most of the money would have gone to running the proposed office that would have dealt with the collection and distribution of this new tax…an office that would have been located in the riding of the politician who came up with the idea in the first place.

  24. Gravatar dda your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    In Canada it was at one point proposed by a politician to tax blank CDs and MP3 players

    Which is what happened in France. A tax is levied on blank recording media to be forwarded to the SACEM, the company managing royalties. I wonder how much the artists really see from this tax.

  25. Posted August 30, 2007 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    They can have it. Don’t care what they do with it either.

  26. Gravatar seouldout your flag
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    Even at 1000 won more the departure gate is still my favorite place in Korea. A nice & long Chusok holiday comin’ soon.

  27. Gravatar Rambutan your flag
    Posted August 31, 2007 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    SomeguyinKorea-

    Sadly that blank CD tax actually went through years ago:

    (Wikipedia) Canada’s current levies are as follows: $0.24 per unit for Audio Cassette tape (40min or longer); $0.21 per unit for CD-R Audio, CD-RW-Audio & MiniDisc; $0.21 per unit for CD-R, CD-RW (non audio)

    They’re now trying to get it expanded to memory cards.

    This levy is intended to reimburse recording artists who lose income due to home copying. Therefore, doesn’t this mean it’s now ethical (if not legal) to rip your friend’s Phil Collins collection?

    The fact that you’re paying those goons when you make a CD-R of your own music is beyond obscene and well into evil territory.

  28. Gravatar soondae your flag
    Posted September 1, 2007 at 1:00 am | Permalink

    #13

    Cynical, but I am afraid this brushing up against a truth.

  29. Gravatar peninsular aborigine your flag
    Posted September 1, 2007 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Joshua (# 21),

    Same boss. Same office, too.

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