Comments on: The James Bond of Hostage Negotiations - Richard Lawless? http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/ Korea... in Blog Format Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:52:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: robert neff http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102646 robert neff Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:45:07 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102646 Thanks Slim - Trust me - no hard feelings on my part. Appreciate you catching the errors - I am just surprised that some other people did not catch them. Thanks again Thanks Slim -

Trust me - no hard feelings on my part. Appreciate you catching the errors - I am just surprised that some other people did not catch them.

Thanks again

]]> By: slim http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102645 slim Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:30:37 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102645 --MarLin Fitzwater. AToL piece has Martin Fitzwater --The stated U.S. policy on hostage takers is that it does not "make concessions". It says nothing about not negotiating. This can be looked up on the State Dept website and has been refreshed by recent officials who have pointed out that distinction in the context of the Korean abductees. It's not my style to be a pendantic nag and I frankly do not hold the Asia Times to very high standards (despite the fact that among a largely crackpot line-up, they publish reputable people like Don Kirk, Aidan Foster-Carter and Dr Lankov) and I enjoy Robert Neff's historical work here and elsewhere. But Journ 101 classes in many if not most J-schools will give failing grades for simple factual errors in student articles, under the reasoning that if readers see you getting little stuff wrong, they have ample cause to doubt you on big stuff. –MarLin Fitzwater. AToL piece has Martin Fitzwater

–The stated U.S. policy on hostage takers is that it does not “make concessions”. It says nothing about not negotiating. This can be looked up on the State Dept website and has been refreshed by recent officials who have pointed out that distinction in the context of the Korean abductees.

It’s not my style to be a pendantic nag and I frankly do not hold the Asia Times to very high standards (despite the fact that among a largely crackpot line-up, they publish reputable people like Don Kirk, Aidan Foster-Carter and Dr Lankov) and I enjoy Robert Neff’s historical work here and elsewhere.

But Journ 101 classes in many if not most J-schools will give failing grades for simple factual errors in student articles, under the reasoning that if readers see you getting little stuff wrong, they have ample cause to doubt you on big stuff.

]]> By: Sperwer http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102641 Sperwer Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:20:54 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102641 literally, huh? Well I do live on Lion's Den Street - at least that's one of the recent City changed names for the street to replace the old dong designation. literally, huh? Well I do live on Lion’s Den Street - at least that’s one of the recent City changed names for the street to replace the old dong designation.

]]> By: robert neff http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102640 robert neff Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:20:28 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102640 Thanks Sperwer for being there for me. Ha ha. Where should I send the check? Somewhere there has to be something in Murphy's Law that an article - no matter how many times it is checked by others prior to its publication - will always have a glaring error that is apparent to all of the readers? Thanks Sperwer for being there for me. Ha ha. Where should I send the check?

Somewhere there has to be something in Murphy’s Law that an article - no matter how many times it is checked by others prior to its publication - will always have a glaring error that is apparent to all of the readers?

]]> By: Sperwer http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102638 Sperwer Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:13:35 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102638 It's not like much digging was needed: http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=10694 It’s not like much digging was needed:

http://www.defenselink.mil/rel.....seid=10694

]]> By: Ut videam http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102636 Ut videam Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:08:56 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102636 As for being the "James Bond" of hostage negotiations... he certainly has the name for it. :) As for being the “James Bond” of hostage negotiations… he certainly has the name for it. :)

]]> By: robert neff http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102635 robert neff Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:04:19 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102635 Ha ha.... You guys are literally animals. I mentioned the BBC story only to show that I was not the only one to make the mistake. I fully surrender to you all and have requested Asia Times to make the correction. Sure is a hostile crowd out here tonight. But it's good - it keeps people honest Ha ha….
You guys are literally animals. I mentioned the BBC story only to show that I was not the only one to make the mistake. I fully surrender to you all and have requested Asia Times to make the correction.
Sure is a hostile crowd out here tonight. But it’s good - it keeps people honest

]]> By: Ut videam http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102634 Ut videam Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:02:02 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102634 <blockquote>China Pursues U.S. Military Ties More Slowly Than Hoped, Official Says By Donna Miles American Forces Press Service WASHINGTON, July 9, 2007 – China is following up on its stated interest in closer military ties with the United States but not as quickly or completely as initially hoped, an outgoing senior defense official said. “They have been more willing to engage, but it is engagement by millimeters and increments,” Richard Lawless told reporters July 6 during a media roundtable. <strong>He retired June 30 from his position as deputy under secretary for Asian and Pacific security affairs. </strong> (emphasis added)</blockquote> http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=46674

China Pursues U.S. Military Ties More Slowly Than Hoped, Official Says

By Donna Miles
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, July 9, 2007 – China is following up on its stated interest in closer military ties with the United States but not as quickly or completely as initially hoped, an outgoing senior defense official said.
“They have been more willing to engage, but it is engagement by millimeters and increments,” Richard Lawless told reporters July 6 during a media roundtable. He retired June 30 from his position as deputy under secretary for Asian and Pacific security affairs. (emphasis added)

http://www.defenselink.mil/new.....x?id=46674

]]> By: Sperwer http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102633 Sperwer Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:00:50 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102633 <blockquote>but BBC was still listing him as Undersecretary in their article on August 14, 2007.</blockquote> Sounds like a pretty Korean sort of excuse to me. Why check the facts when you can simply regurgitate some hearsay?

but BBC was still listing him as Undersecretary in their article on August 14, 2007.

Sounds like a pretty Korean sort of excuse to me. Why check the facts when you can simply regurgitate some hearsay?

]]> By: robert neff http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102631 robert neff Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:57:06 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/22/the-james-bond-of-hostage-negotiations-richard-lawless/#comment-102631 Slim, Actually, from what I have gathered from other pieces, it was in June he resigned but BBC was still listing him as Undersecretary in their article on August 14, 2007. As for the other "factual errors" - I am always interested in learning more about my own mistakes Respectfully Robert Slim,

Actually, from what I have gathered from other pieces, it was in June he resigned but BBC was still listing him as Undersecretary in their article on August 14, 2007.

As for the other “factual errors” - I am always interested in learning more about my own mistakes

Respectfully
Robert

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