that’s like asking Hitler to take Sudetenland.

There is a solution. It’s better than letting them kill each other for foreign interests of Shiite and Sunni states.

Do you think American interests would be fulfilled in the Middle East, if Iraq went about its Civil War, in the absence of US presence there, with arms feeding the war by Iran and Syria?

I’ll predict this.

Oil Shock and Terror on US Soil.

Obama, you’ll be asking Congress for war funds, 9 months into your term.

No attacks on US soil.

The point is, even by following blueballs’s link, and I blotted out War, and told you to just look at the Years and numbers, and asked you to guess when there was a war, you would have a hard time deciding when there was one.

Simple point. Iraq War loss is way, way, way, way overblown by people with agendas.

Reality. More people die in the US aside from Iraq war casualties.

How is it a stupid point that has nothing to do with anything?

It’s a stupid point, if you want to avoid crediting the US doing an objectivley efficient war effort.

I understand.

You don’t want to credit Bush.

You want to bring him down.

Suit yourself.

Numbers don’t lie.

Actually, that should be your line, but sadly numbers are not partial.

The liberal agenda behind stressing war deaths in Iraq is to bring a full retreat from Iraq, by scaring the public with the number of war deaths.

My observation is not stupid.

And in fact, I made the same observation that Bush put into words the other day, but took criticism for.

American Isolationism has ultimately proven to be an inappropriate delayed response to the wellfare of the world, in all historical instances.

10,000 soldier’s deaths might be considered a price worth paying (tho so horribly heavy) if America’s safety and most crucial interests were secured thereby. Even 1 soldier’s death in a war-of-personal-choice-and-ambition that runs against American values and is actually harmful to America’s important interests, is both a tragedy and a crime by the leaders who caused it.

And you have no reply to my #28…?

can you acknowledge that among all wars the US has got involved in, the fatality rate from Iraq has been the smallest ever?

That, I don’t think you can even argue with.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner.

can you acknowledge that among all wars the US has got involved in, the fatality rate from Iraq has been the smallest ever?

That, I don’t think you can even argue with.

However, it absolutely makes America scream and wheal.

Bush said in words what I’ve been thinking over the past few months.

Can’t just leave there. They’re gonna kill each other !

But, like Obama probably thinks to himself, it’s not our problem. Let them kill each other, as long as it’s not an American life, 1 million others can die.

This will turn around quickly when they start attacking American foreign military bases a la the USS Cole or American soil like the WTC.

American Isolationism is a classic theme in American History.

The British were begging for help in Europe, but America was unwilling as a majority, until the insane Japanese bombed a Pearl Harbor missing all the entire air craft carriers.

What’s interesting is that Bush mentioned Korea, Japan, and Vietnam, and all that stands out to the American people is V-I-E-T-N-A-M.

American PTSD.

Cold War was an ideology war.

The Empire of China and the Empire of Russia fucked the world over and over with their Imperialistic interests. Map out everywhere they touched. Worse off under their occupation and influence. Before and after.

60 years have proven that American “Imperialism” has brought those regions as OECD top tier countries in living standards.