Comments on: Countries Can’t Live on Software Exports Alone

By: pawikirogi

pawikirogi — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:31:48 +0000

once again, i see you avoided the real question, which tells me you wrote what you wrote to be offensive. got han?

‘有恨?’ 石鵝

‘没有. 你呢?’ 小雨

對君? 沒有.

ps can’t find ‘nee’ on my ime.

By: Zonath

Zonath — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 07:45:13 +0000

#29…

It really doesn’t seem like you have much of a point to make… Sure, if you want to really talk about ‘indirect coprophagy’ we could go on and on about how basically everything is raised on crap. If you’re really insinuating that Korean people like dog meat because they enjoy eating shit…. well, that’s just stupid.

By: Herod

Herod — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 03:25:36 +0000

Why so touchy, pawi?? Man, you Koreans really seem schizophrenic about your dog-eating. On the one hand: “It’s our culture! It’s perfectly fine!” On the other hand: “Don’t you foreigners even talk about it! And please don’t think of dog-meat eating when you think of Korea!”
Do I have to remind you what my original point was? Do you disagree with it? If so, how? Are you saying that Koreans would indeed consider Indian dogs to be dirtier than feces-eating Korean dogs?

By: Sonagi

Sonagi — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:45:53 +0000

有恨?

没有. 你呢?

By: pawikirogi

pawikirogi — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:42:06 +0000

herod, you totally ignored zonath’s point; we all eat shit laden food. you like vegetables?

By: Sonagi

Sonagi — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:35:55 +0000

In contrast, in the dog-eating world, dogs do not enjoy such privileges. ‘Son-of-a-bitch’ (gae-saek-gi) literally means that (’bitch’ refers to a promiscuous woman in America - not a female dog).

The deceased author of Kimsoft, probably not a native speaker of English, was unaware that the original meaning of the English word “bitch” was “female dog,” and apparently, so are you, wjk. It is precisely because of this original meaning that the word evolved into a general insult for a woman. It does not specifically imply sexual promiscuity but is simply a derogatory term.

By: Herod

Herod — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:22:22 +0000

Wjk: Dogs are raised for sexual enjoyment in America?
Why do I get the feeling that you would find such a lunatic remark less “venerable” if it were made about Korea?

By: Iceberg

Iceberg — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:11:39 +0000

I fought a dog once. It tore the shit out of my arm.

Funny that you should mention Michael Vick - who is looking at a minimum of a year in prison for his involvement in a dog-fighting ring - and then suggest that Americans don’t love their dogs and cats.

By: wjk

wjk — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:59:53 +0000

michael vick’s life is going to the toilet, basically because he got caught fighting dogs.

I’m sure it’s a bit different from eating dogs, but I don’t think Koreans would approve of destroying a man’s life over animals.

But, I sort of would.

Americans don’t love their dogs and cats like they claim.

Just the other week, a drunken man who accidentally shot his cat claimed that the cat accidentally shot itself.

Take a look at the animal shelters in America and even Europe. Enough said.

The venerable man who wrote at kimsoft.com remarked that,

Dogs are eaten in Korea, parts of China, Siberia, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, parts of Africa and America. The Native Americans used to eat dogs until the US Law banned it in the 1800’s. However, with the resurgence of the Native Indian nationalism, dog-eating is rumored to be on the rise in several Indian “nations”.

In America, dogs are often treated as if they were humans. Dogs eat special foods (no crumbs off dinner tables or human garbage), sleep on soft bedding (some dogs sleep with their masters and do have sexual contacts with them), receive medical treatments (some dogs even see psychiatrists) and get buried in a cemetery when they die (not eaten as they get old). Dogs which attack and kill human kids sometimes go unpunished.

In contrast, in the dog-eating world, dogs do not enjoy such privileges. ‘Son-of-a-bitch’ (gae-saek-gi) literally means that (’bitch’ refers to a promiscuous woman in America - not a female dog). Gae-nom (dog person) refers to devilish persons. Gae-ddong (dog shits) refers to foulish garbage. In general, gae (dogs) stands for things bad and evil. Dogs are raised for gastronomical pleasures - not for sensual or sexual enjoyment as in America.

http://www.kimsoft.com/ysk-korea/ysk-korea.htm

YS Kim was a venerable man, who opened my eyes to a new world of knowledge. May he rest in peace.

By: Herod

Herod — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:01:47 +0000

Zonath -
Hmm, why so touchy and defensive? I said, to each his own. If people want to eat dog feces indirectly or directly, I don’t mind, though a little humaneness in killing the animals doesn’t seem too much to ask. (I like that Gandhi quote above.) My point (I repeat) was that that feces are such a big and well-known part of a chained or cooped-up dog’s diet that a) the feces contribute to the distinctive taste and b) Koreans would likely not reject Indian dogs on hygienic grounds.
As for “widely eaten”: dog meat eating is far, far more widespread here than the average young English teacher (who tends to hang out primarily with the sort of young, Western-oriented, college-educated Korean females who consider it 혐오 food) probably realizes.
You will have a hard time finding a Korean adult over 35 or with only a high school education who does not eat dog meat at least once a year.
On the other hand, dog meat eating is not as frequent as the foreign press thinks - it’s not as if people are eating the stuff every week.