Comments on: KNP’s Latest Effort to Crack Down on Motorcycle Gangs http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/ Korea... in Blog Format Sun, 7 Sep 2008 05:23:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: globalvillageidiot http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101869 globalvillageidiot Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:21:08 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101869 Running red lights, driving on the sidewalk, racing, etc. would be eliminated in a matter of weeks were the government to start handing out big fines, suspending licences, and throwing people in jail for second and third offenses. Heavy penalties - ones that are actually enforced - might work. But don't bet on that happening. The general public here seems somewhat apathetic about traffic safety. This is the place that cancelled a law on child car seats last summer - a day or so after it took effect, no less - because there was public outrage over A) having to buy a seat, and B) pay a paltry 30 000 won fine if one was caught not using one. (Besides, why spend anything to keep your kid(s) safe when you could better use the money on a TV to watch while driving home!) And, as anybody who has lived here for more than a few months can attest to, you can violate traffic laws in front of a Korean police officer and odds are you will not be stopped. (It isn't like the police stations located in front of red light zones here actually enforce prostitution laws either.) Running red lights, driving on the sidewalk, racing, etc. would be eliminated in a matter of weeks were the government to start handing out big fines, suspending licences, and throwing people in jail for second and third offenses. Heavy penalties - ones that are actually enforced - might work.

But don’t bet on that happening. The general public here seems somewhat apathetic about traffic safety. This is the place that cancelled a law on child car seats last summer - a day or so after it took effect, no less - because there was public outrage over A) having to buy a seat, and B) pay a paltry 30 000 won fine if one was caught not using one. (Besides, why spend anything to keep your kid(s) safe when you could better use the money on a TV to watch while driving home!)

And, as anybody who has lived here for more than a few months can attest to, you can violate traffic laws in front of a Korean police officer and odds are you will not be stopped. (It isn’t like the police stations located in front of red light zones here actually enforce prostitution laws either.)

]]> By: sumo294 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101846 sumo294 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:31:42 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101846 Different police departments have dealt with the issue in different ways. In Song-nam the police did use bamboo poles and chains and the problem went away overnight and the gangs still do not come there to this day. The problem is the liberal man hater they have running the show these days. Different police departments have dealt with the issue in different ways. In Song-nam the police did use bamboo poles and chains and the problem went away overnight and the gangs still do not come there to this day. The problem is the liberal man hater they have running the show these days.

]]> By: skindleshanks http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101836 skindleshanks Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:52:45 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101836 I have twice been in near-misses with these absolutely reckless helmetless drivers, and would likely have killed one of them had I not reacted quickly enough when he swerved in front of me. Guess who would have had to pay compensation to his family? It's about time they did something about it--follow Ontario's example with racing and hand out 10 million won fines. Serious jail time would be good, too. I have twice been in near-misses with these absolutely reckless helmetless drivers, and would likely have killed one of them had I not reacted quickly enough when he swerved in front of me.

Guess who would have had to pay compensation to his family?

It’s about time they did something about it–follow Ontario’s example with racing and hand out 10 million won fines. Serious jail time would be good, too.

]]> By: SomeguyinKorea http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101824 SomeguyinKorea Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:48:16 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101824 "Korean police should resort to Amerian tactics and use spike-strips and anything else necessary to stop and arrest them. They should confiscate their motorcycles and licenses." Well, yeah...but I doubt they have licenses. “Korean police should resort to Amerian tactics and use spike-strips and anything else necessary to stop and arrest them. They should confiscate their motorcycles and licenses.”

Well, yeah…but I doubt they have licenses.

]]> By: R. Elgin http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101777 R. Elgin Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:05:30 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101777 Thanks for information Max. I have not seen that part of their routine. It does sound very bad and so, it might be good if the police deal with them, however, paintball guns are a very bad ideal for that sounds just like the means one would use to get them to crash into someone -- very dangerous indeed. Photographs followed by arrests would do the trick since once the police sweep in an pull these guys out of bed and have TV news tape them in their underwear, it would probably have the desired effect. Thanks for information Max. I have not seen that part of their routine. It does sound very bad and so, it might be good if the police deal with them, however, paintball guns are a very bad ideal for that sounds just like the means one would use to get them to crash into someone — very dangerous indeed.

Photographs followed by arrests would do the trick since once the police sweep in an pull these guys out of bed and have TV news tape them in their underwear, it would probably have the desired effect.

]]> By: Ut videam http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101775 Ut videam Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:20:30 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101775 Hopefully the cops would have the good sense to maneuver the target away from innocent traffic before attempting to tag him with the paintball. Hopefully the cops would have the good sense to maneuver the target away from innocent traffic before attempting to tag him with the paintball.

]]> By: Ut videam http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101774 Ut videam Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:17:51 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101774 #27 - You're probably right; my comment was meant to be read in conjunction with the article I linked, which sure sounds like it's talking about a Japanese motorcycle gang ("Osada, who was on his way to Gifu Prefecture in a group of about 10 friends..."). #27 -

You’re probably right; my comment was meant to be read in conjunction with the article I linked, which sure sounds like it’s talking about a Japanese motorcycle gang (”Osada, who was on his way to Gifu Prefecture in a group of about 10 friends…”).

]]> By: globalvillageidiot http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101773 globalvillageidiot Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:13:41 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101773 "Dangerous? You think a speeding motorcyclist will even notice being shot with a paintball?" Well, my friend dropped his bike after being stung by a wasp, so I reckon it isn't exactly outside the realm of possibility. My only concern would be one of these assholes losing control for a moment or two and hurting somebody else. “Dangerous? You think a speeding motorcyclist will even notice being shot with a paintball?”

Well, my friend dropped his bike after being stung by a wasp, so I reckon it isn’t exactly outside the realm of possibility. My only concern would be one of these assholes losing control for a moment or two and hurting somebody else.

]]> By: Ut videam http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101772 Ut videam Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:09:42 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101772 #22 - Dangerous? You think a speeding motorcyclist will even notice being shot with a paintball? Granted, getting shot with a paintball can hurt... but this hurts more: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8R0J9D80&show_article=1 #22 -

Dangerous? You think a speeding motorcyclist will even notice being shot with a paintball?

Granted, getting shot with a paintball can hurt… but this hurts more:

http://www.breitbart.com/artic....._article=1

]]> By: Max Watson http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101769 Max Watson Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:28:04 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/14/knps-latest-effort-to-crack-down-on-motorcycle-gangs/#comment-101769 To say the "bike gangs" (I'm going to call them "bike hooligans") are a non-issue is to assert ignorance of the fact. I see them almost weekly. I live next to a major street and can hear them coming first. Sometimes they're followed by the police (never chased) and seem to not change in their presence. These bike hooligans play "chicken" with oncoming traffic. Not only is that incredibly dangerous, it's plain stupid and nerve-racking to the innocent drivers. One night I was driving home, suddenly a car that was part of a hooligan group decided to swerve into oncoming traffic--right in front of me. It scared me so much, it looked like a crash was unavoidable. I was about to swerve to the right, possibly hitting a car, but avoiding a potential head-on collision. Luckily, the jackass swerved back into his lane, into the pack with all of his mentally challenged hooligans. I hate those guys. I hate them more than all the bus and taxi drivers combined. Korean police should resort to Amerian tactics and use spike-strips and anything else necessary to stop and arrest them. They should confiscate their motorcycles and licenses. It's a crime that more hasn't been done until now. Now if they'd just focus on enforcing the "pedestrians in the crosswalk" law. To say the “bike gangs” (I’m going to call them “bike hooligans”) are a non-issue is to assert ignorance of the fact. I see them almost weekly. I live next to a major street and can hear them coming first. Sometimes they’re followed by the police (never chased) and seem to not change in their presence. These bike hooligans play “chicken” with oncoming traffic. Not only is that incredibly dangerous, it’s plain stupid and nerve-racking to the innocent drivers.

One night I was driving home, suddenly a car that was part of a hooligan group decided to swerve into oncoming traffic–right in front of me. It scared me so much, it looked like a crash was unavoidable. I was about to swerve to the right, possibly hitting a car, but avoiding a potential head-on collision. Luckily, the jackass swerved back into his lane, into the pack with all of his mentally challenged hooligans.

I hate those guys. I hate them more than all the bus and taxi drivers combined. Korean police should resort to Amerian tactics and use spike-strips and anything else necessary to stop and arrest them. They should confiscate their motorcycles and licenses. It’s a crime that more hasn’t been done until now.

Now if they’d just focus on enforcing the “pedestrians in the crosswalk” law.

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