Comments on: My two cents on the hostage crisis http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/ Korea... in Blog Format Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:41:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: snow http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-100286 snow Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:41:11 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-100286 Well, no matter how 'insincere' most missionaries supposedly are towards those they help, at least they are there in usually poor conditions trying to do something to help out, which is far more than the vast majority of people ever do, who wouldn't cross the street to help a dying beggar or dog. Well, no matter how ‘insincere’ most missionaries supposedly are towards those they help, at least they are there in usually poor conditions trying to do something to help out, which is far more than the vast majority of people ever do, who wouldn’t cross the street to help a dying beggar or dog.

]]> By: jdmorrison http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-100275 jdmorrison Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:45:10 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-100275 Any church group that goes anywhere that is lacking in Christianity is doing it for one thing. Tim Peters may do good work, but ultimately, his goal is to let people know that Christians are good people who you should come hang out with, because we came in your time of need. If these people went to countries, did their work and never mentioned their religious beliefs, prayed in public or gave out slips of paper with telephone numbers of church groups to contact when they leave the area, that would be honest caring. Christian missionaries are never anything more than that...I was involved in it as a kid... Any church group that goes anywhere that is lacking in Christianity is doing it for one thing. Tim Peters may do good work, but ultimately, his goal is to let people know that Christians are good people who you should come hang out with, because we came in your time of need. If these people went to countries, did their work and never mentioned their religious beliefs, prayed in public or gave out slips of paper with telephone numbers of church groups to contact when they leave the area, that would be honest caring. Christian missionaries are never anything more than that…I was involved in it as a kid…

]]> By: SomeguyinKorea http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-100004 SomeguyinKorea Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:52:20 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-100004 "*Some folks seem to have gotten hung up on whether they should be called “aid workers” or “missionaries.” In my experience with missionaries who go to underdeveloped countries, that is a false dichotomy. They tend to be both. However, if your only experience with a missionary was back home when you met some guy with a bike and a Bible, I can understand the confusion. " Sure, but in some cases the aid worker part is probably just a pretext, kind of like how Scientologists set up tents at Ground Zero in order to 'help' the rescue workers. “*Some folks seem to have gotten hung up on whether they should be called “aid workers” or “missionaries.” In my experience with missionaries who go to underdeveloped countries, that is a false dichotomy. They tend to be both. However, if your only experience with a missionary was back home when you met some guy with a bike and a Bible, I can understand the confusion. ”

Sure, but in some cases the aid worker part is probably just a pretext, kind of like how Scientologists set up tents at Ground Zero in order to ‘help’ the rescue workers.

]]> By: SomeguyinKorea http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-99848 SomeguyinKorea Fri, 03 Aug 2007 02:06:09 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-99848 #2. The difference is in the labels. We are not talking about aid-workers but missionaries. Their intents are self-evident. #2. The difference is in the labels. We are not talking about aid-workers but missionaries. Their intents are self-evident.

]]> By: mcnut http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-99847 mcnut Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:59:22 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-99847 i know tim peter's personally and he does a lot of good for people who really want it. i wouldnt want people trying to use food and medicene in order for me to get my relgious beliefs in line with theirs. i know tim doesnt tell people (refugees) hey do you want help getting out of here ok here is what you need to do. read this bible!!! aid work and missionary work are different but can be construed as the same thing along a very thin distinction i know tim peter’s personally and he does a lot of good for people who really want it. i wouldnt want people trying to use food and medicene in order for me to get my relgious beliefs in line with theirs.

i know tim doesnt tell people (refugees) hey do you want help getting out of here ok here is what you need to do. read this bible!!!

aid work and missionary work are different but can be construed as the same thing along a very thin distinction

]]> By: michael http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-99844 michael Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:45:41 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-99844 One of my coworkers has been on a couple "missions" to the M-E and others in the office are Christians who have told me what their churches do overseas. That said, I'm not claiming expertise, it's just my opinion. One of my coworkers has been on a couple “missions” to the M-E and others in the office are Christians who have told me what their churches do overseas. That said, I’m not claiming expertise, it’s just my opinion.

]]> By: cm http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-99842 cm Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:32:22 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-99842 Seriously Michael, how much did you know about Korean Christian missionaries to the Middle East, before all this happened? For me, I didn't even know there were any Korean missionaries in Afghanistan or the Middle East for that matter. But now all of a sudden we're all experts in here about them. Seriously Michael, how much did you know about Korean Christian missionaries to the Middle East, before all this happened? For me, I didn’t even know there were any Korean missionaries in Afghanistan or the Middle East for that matter. But now all of a sudden we’re all experts in here about them.

]]> By: michael http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-99829 michael Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:34:20 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/03/my-two-cents-on-the-hostage-crisis/#comment-99829 The Christians who help N.K. refugees seem to be different than the ones who go to the Middle East and elsewhere--their main goal is to get the refugees to a safe country, and the evangelical part is secondary. The others are more like straight-up proselytizers who use "aid" as a pretext. I've got a lot more respect for Tim Peter's group and others who help the refugees and little respect for the Christian tourists who could do real aid by donating to established NGOs like the Red Cross, but don't. The Christians who help N.K. refugees seem to be different than the ones who go to the Middle East and elsewhere–their main goal is to get the refugees to a safe country, and the evangelical part is secondary. The others are more like straight-up proselytizers who use “aid” as a pretext. I’ve got a lot more respect for Tim Peter’s group and others who help the refugees and little respect for the Christian tourists who could do real aid by donating to established NGOs like the Red Cross, but don’t.

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