Comments on: Yonhap: Kabul Won’t Budge Because of West http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/ Korea... in Blog Format Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:10:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Railwaycharm http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-99143 Railwaycharm Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:20:09 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-99143 Roh is a pussy without the good taste to give his countrymen a reach-around! Roh is a pussy without the good taste to give his countrymen a reach-around!

]]> By: patriotic american http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-99131 patriotic american Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:44:22 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-99131 Koreans (regular "Kim Kim-chi" citizens) and the ROK gov't are pretty whimpy with all their whinning about this hostage situation. What a bunch of girls!! I mean, why the hell should the US or the UK risk anything for them when they didn't send troops in the first place?!? They are the Asian version of "Blame America Firsters" back in the land of the brave and home of the free. Man, I am sick of these knuckleheads. You would never hear an American Christian missionary complain about being kidnapped. And he would not expect or ask his government to bail him out of a fix he himself got into. He would take it on the chin like a man. Why dont the ROK Army go in there with cammnados? I know from personal experience that the ROK Army has a capable counter-terrorism contigent, the 707th Special Missions Battalion, ready to be deployed at a moment's notice. Even the friggin' French (read Frogs) have the GIGN...!!! They could, if they choose, go in there and get the job done. No fuss, no muss. Roh is a pussy. I am sorry, but he is. Yeeeehah!!! Hell yeah!!! Koreans (regular “Kim Kim-chi” citizens) and the ROK gov’t are pretty whimpy with all their whinning about this hostage situation. What a bunch of girls!! I mean, why the hell should the US or the UK risk anything for them when they didn’t send troops in the first place?!?

They are the Asian version of “Blame America Firsters” back in the land of the brave and home of the free. Man, I am sick of these knuckleheads. You would never hear an American Christian missionary complain about being kidnapped. And he would not expect or ask his government to bail him out of a fix he himself got into. He would take it on the chin like a man.

Why dont the ROK Army go in there with cammnados? I know from personal experience that the ROK Army has a capable counter-terrorism contigent, the 707th Special Missions Battalion, ready to be deployed at a moment’s notice. Even the friggin’ French (read Frogs) have the GIGN…!!! They could, if they choose, go in there and get the job done. No fuss, no muss. Roh is a pussy. I am sorry, but he is.

Yeeeehah!!! Hell yeah!!!

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Korea: On the kidnapped Koreans http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-99015 Global Voices Online » Korea: On the kidnapped Koreans Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:57:11 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-99015 [...] Koehler at The Marmot’s Hole follows up on a series of posts looking at the plight of the 23 Korean missionaries—now on hunger strike—recently taken for hostage in Afghanistan in [...] [...] Koehler at The Marmot’s Hole follows up on a series of posts looking at the plight of the 23 Korean missionaries—now on hunger strike—recently taken for hostage in Afghanistan in [...]

]]> By: sumo294 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-98790 sumo294 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:27:21 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-98790 Notice how quiet the Korean liberals are? Because no matter how you spin it the left will suffer for their unwillingness to go all out in protecting its citizens. Notice how quiet the Korean liberals are? Because no matter how you spin it the left will suffer for their unwillingness to go all out in protecting its citizens.

]]> By: michael http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-98731 michael Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:45:13 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-98731 For what it's worth, yourbutt (you related to Starbutts?) I usually go on and on criticizing the media and gov't in Korea, not Koreans per se. My Korean friends are rather like you from the sound of it. “straw giants”:) For what it’s worth, yourbutt (you related to Starbutts?) I usually go on and on criticizing the media and gov’t in Korea, not Koreans per se. My Korean friends are rather like you from the sound of it.

“straw giants”:)

]]> By: yourbutt http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-98729 yourbutt Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:37:14 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-98729 I don't know who said it above, but as a Korean who reads Korean news and blogs more in Korean than in English (when I am avoiding my work at the office, that is^^), I can say with some authority that 90% of Koreans don't blame the US at all. They blame those crazy and rude Christians who went to dangerous Afghanistan against the MOFAT and others telling them over and over not to go. That is why I noted surprise that neither Bob nor even one of his henchmen posted the pic and story about the crazy "missionary" that put his hand on the Buddhist monk's head while the monk was sitting in deep meditation while yelling weird prayors (I guess he was trying to cast out demons from the monk's body, or something). The -- on this foreigner blogs anyways -- dredded and much ballyhooed Netiziens had a field day with that. Imagine the reaction here if the "Hanky" reported something like 'KFTA will destroy Korea's agricultural sector.' That incident in Pusan had a similar impact for us. So, I hate to break to you. You can always find an article here and there talking a great deal about US-Korea conflicts, but, by and large, it is not really what is on the minds of people like me. I am very critical of the US and maybe would be dismissed here as more or less a "typcial Korean," but I don't blame the US for all the problems Korea faces. You guys exaggerate, conflate and sometimes just get what Koreans thinking wrong. A lt times, it seems you guys put up these "straw giants" lable them "typical liberal Korean thinking" and take pop shots at them. It has been a long time since I was in college, but isn't that a logical fallacy??? As some other blogger said: Dude, chill out... I don’t know who said it above, but as a Korean who reads Korean news and blogs more in Korean than in English (when I am avoiding my work at the office, that is^^), I can say with some authority that 90% of Koreans don’t blame the US at all. They blame those crazy and rude Christians who went to dangerous Afghanistan against the MOFAT and others telling them over and over not to go.

That is why I noted surprise that neither Bob nor even one of his henchmen posted the pic and story about the crazy “missionary” that put his hand on the Buddhist monk’s head while the monk was sitting in deep meditation while yelling weird prayors (I guess he was trying to cast out demons from the monk’s body, or something).

The — on this foreigner blogs anyways — dredded and much ballyhooed Netiziens had a field day with that. Imagine the reaction here if the “Hanky” reported something like ‘KFTA will destroy Korea’s agricultural sector.’ That incident in Pusan had a similar impact for us.

So, I hate to break to you. You can always find an article here and there talking a great deal about US-Korea conflicts, but, by and large, it is not really what is on the minds of people like me. I am very critical of the US and maybe would be dismissed here as more or less a “typcial Korean,” but I don’t blame the US for all the problems Korea faces. You guys exaggerate, conflate and sometimes just get what Koreans thinking wrong.

A lt times, it seems you guys put up these “straw giants” lable them “typical liberal Korean thinking” and take pop shots at them. It has been a long time since I was in college, but isn’t that a logical fallacy???

As some other blogger said: Dude, chill out…

]]> By: michael http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-98712 michael Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:07:23 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-98712 Marmot--well said. Actually, the Korean media (and gov't) are on a predictable script, blaming the U.S. and ignoring their own people's stupidity. If Moslems came to Korea illegally and went around trying to convert Koreans to Islam, well, imagine the reaction of the Korean media. What a bunch of dolts. Coincidentally, it was about a year ago that another group of xtians was booted out of Afghanistan--"There have already been angry demonstrations against what Afghans say are the 'proselytizing' visitors." http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200608/200608040020.html The arrogance of ignorance. Marmot–well said.

Actually, the Korean media (and gov’t) are on a predictable script, blaming the U.S. and ignoring their own people’s stupidity.

If Moslems came to Korea illegally and went around trying to convert Koreans to Islam, well, imagine the reaction of the Korean media. What a bunch of dolts.

Coincidentally, it was about a year ago that another group of xtians was booted out of Afghanistan–”There have already been angry demonstrations against what Afghans say are the ‘proselytizing’ visitors.”
http://english.chosun.com/w21d.....40020.html

The arrogance of ignorance.

]]> By: Sonagi http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-98707 Sonagi Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:46:17 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-98707 Back on topic, I found a related article at the Chosun Ilbo. Korean-proficient commenters might check out the message board. The posts with the most recs are critical of the Korean government's handling of the crisis and its attempts to shift responsibility onto the US: http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2007/07/26/2007072600530.html Far from taking the anti-US bait of the Korean media, netizens responding to the Naver news story in the OP are mostly critical of the church group's trip and of the possibility of paying millions of dollars in ransom to a terrorist group that will use that money to fund more death and destruction. Back on topic, I found a related article at the Chosun Ilbo. Korean-proficient commenters might check out the message board. The posts with the most recs are critical of the Korean government’s handling of the crisis and its attempts to shift responsibility onto the US:

http://news.chosun.com/site/da.....00530.html

Far from taking the anti-US bait of the Korean media, netizens responding to the Naver news story in the OP are mostly critical of the church group’s trip and of the possibility of paying millions of dollars in ransom to a terrorist group that will use that money to fund more death and destruction.

]]> By: kwon http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-98691 kwon Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:53:53 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-98691 I agree with what Robert wrote, but would like to add, never forget the ruling party positioning itself for the december election. I agree with what Robert wrote, but would like to add, never forget the ruling party positioning itself for the december election.

]]> By: dlatn http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-98650 dlatn Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:10:41 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/26/yonhap-kabul-wont-budge-because-of-west/#comment-98650 He is not black, nor white, nor colored. He is not black, nor white, nor colored.

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