Looks like that legal market opening may be delayed; I think the Free Trade Agreement may be a goner. Korea has suspended the import of American beef once again, this time after Cargill was apparently so sloppy they shipped over not just a few bone chi…

If YoungRocco2 is right about one thing, it’s that the statistics you provide is a bit misleading and kinda unreliable (umm… it’s an editorial, and it’s written to promote some public program Chosunilbo is starting).

“Consumption of books in major chains = readership” is not really accurate. The equation is ignoring libraries, local book rental stores (where, when I was back in Korea, I got most of my books from), internet orders, internet-based literature, “Hey, can I borrow that book”,… list goes on. If only books from Borders or Barnes & Noble counted, then I have read precisely 4 books in past 11 years.

The quote runs directly counter to the accusation of Anti-Americanism and beef among the general Korean populace—an accusation that Brendon and Peter Pan did not make.”

–Ut Videam

Looks like you and the guy in the picture have something in coommon, Ut Videam–you’re both full of BS.

Re-read what Brendon wrote. Actually, nevermind. You and Peter Pan are obviously too lazy to do even elementary fact checking. I’ll excerpt the relevant parts of Brendon’s first post:

1. “But the Koreans are afraid of the Chinese.”

Notice he didn’t specify which Koreans. One can safely assume then that he was referring to the general population of Koreans.

2. “If American goods and services aren’t welcome in Korea, then perhaps the welcome mat at the Port of Long Beach ought to be reconsidered.”

Notice the implication here. Again this would seem to refer to Koreans in general. But the article Ut Videam so graciously cited run directly counter to this claim of American goods and services not wanted in Korea, at least as it concerns beef.

3. “i.e., the Yankee and the Jap will accept any provocation without consequence”

This is the main point of Brendon’s whining. However, as I pointed out, the dung-flinging is not provocation of the United States because the beef in question belongs to Lotte Mart, not the United States. Uncle Sam got paid, Lotte Mart did not.

And regardless of whether the point of the protest was, as Sonagi pointed out, to scupper the sale of U.S. beef, the fact of the matter is still that U.S. beef sold out of stores in a matter of a couple days.

So the question is who was harmed here? Lotte Mart. So if you all are going to moan and groan, then you should moan and groan for Lotte Mart.

Now I know what you’re thinking…but but…Brendon’s argument is against the government and law enforcement standards. But if you try to make that argument, you still fail. Remember that American beef was allowed to come here, and was made a precondition of FTA negotiations. So the United States received benefits JUST FROM NEGOTIATING the FTA. The FTA has not been ratified yet, so Korea still hasn’t gained anything. Bottomline here is that there is little grounds for whining about Anti-Americanism as it relates to this incident.

You’re done, Ut Videam.

Strawman? No strawman here. The only straw here is the straw in your head.

–dogbert

Interesting theory. This might explain then why the United States is not afraid of England–The United States having been a former colony of England and all.

But vassalage aside, it would seem that you agree with me that the United States fears China more than Korea does.

“I’m sure there’s some racist conspiracy you can cite to explain this, but given the information the National Statistics Office and the National Library is providing — my conclusion is that Koreans buy fewer books”

–Brendon Carr

Good work, Brendon. Thanks for citing the data. Unfortunately, your argument is fairly weak and has a number of holes. First, your claim of the selection of non-textbooks is false. Second, you ignore the data itself, which only indicates the number of books the average Korean household BUYS 8 books per year, this is not the same as the number of books Koreans READ. Third, your data focuses only on chains and leaves out the number of independent bookstores. Fourth, you forget the fact that a large number of popular novels are checked out not from bookstores or libraries, but from video rental stores. Last but not least, you ignore the number of purchases made on the internet, which, given broadbrand penetration in Korea, I would surmise as fairly robust.

Racism? Don’t flatter yourself. Your argument is too weak to force me to resort to such underhanded methods. I don’t need to complain about racism in Korea, Brendon. You’re the minority in this country, remember? Anyways, my point still stands: Korea is less afraid of China than is the United States. If you believe book publishing data does not confirm my claim, you can look at the defense white papers of the two countries if you want further proof.

Oh yeah, you still haven’t refuted my argument that your Anti-Americanism whining is unjustified.

You can do this by following a book, sure. So, now you’re accusing the lab tech of fabricating a false positive? Come on. You’re reaching.

OJ DNA test was THE FIRST time Los Angeles police department ever did DNA test. The technician said he followed a book!

If you did the test itself, you know one can not follow this from a book. A chemist working for police cannot be neutral. The more he convicts, the higher his pay gets. This is one of the reason I have avoided working for police. Justice is their bowl of rice.

One witness, a former director of DNA testing lab, came and told the jury about the danger of contamination. I give 50-50 chance that OJ DNA testing was intentionally contaminated to produce positive results.

Police use science to convict. They are not doing good science.

Definition:

1. fairness: fairness or reasonableness, especially in the way people are treated or decisions are made

2. system or application of law: the legal system, or the act of applying or upholding the law

3. validity: validity in law

4. good reason: sound or good reason

5. judge: a judge, especially of a higher court

It sounds pretty subjective to me. I may coin a term, “sexual justice” but I do not know what it means or how it can be used. Somhow, I get the feeling that men will require this from women.

The conversation may go like this:
A man speaking: I bought you movie tickets and dinners. So, you should sleep with me. I demand sexual justice. (It fits definition 1).