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		<title>By: Brendon Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/12/they-report-you-decide-ii/#comment-96235</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Korea Trade Commission is the Korean analogue of the United States International Trade Commission, not the Fair Trade Commission. Its mission is very different from enforcement of fair trade law in the domestic market. The Korea Trade Commission, as in the case of the International Trade Commission, is charged with applying appropriate remedies in cases where domestic industry suffers "import injury". There's nothing wrong with that.

However, I don't buy that the Korea Trade Commission will be an organization with the highest level of credibility, or that it can be impartial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Korea Trade Commission is the Korean analogue of the United States International Trade Commission, not the Fair Trade Commission. Its mission is very different from enforcement of fair trade law in the domestic market. The Korea Trade Commission, as in the case of the International Trade Commission, is charged with applying appropriate remedies in cases where domestic industry suffers &#8220;import injury&#8221;. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with that.</p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t buy that the Korea Trade Commission will be an organization with the highest level of credibility, or that it can be impartial.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/12/they-report-you-decide-ii/#comment-96082</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14,
"Beware of the evil foreign capitalist".  LOL

What a joke.  Just google "Korea dumping".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14,<br />
&#8220;Beware of the evil foreign capitalist&#8221;.  LOL</p>
<p>What a joke.  Just google &#8220;Korea dumping&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/12/they-report-you-decide-ii/#comment-96070</link>
		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In most real market economies the primary role of the fair trade regulatory body is to ensure that the domestic market is free, first, from domination by local cartels, monopolists, predatory pricers, etc., not to protect them from foreign competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In most real market economies the primary role of the fair trade regulatory body is to ensure that the domestic market is free, first, from domination by local cartels, monopolists, predatory pricers, etc., not to protect them from foreign competition.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/12/they-report-you-decide-ii/#comment-96066</link>
		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fear not (Korea Times): 

South Korea needs an organization that will fairly protect domestic industries from unfair trade practices by foreign players in the era of free trade and the Korea Trade Commission (KTC) aims to do just that, striving to be one with the highest level of credibility, its new chairman says.

Dr. Bark Tae-ho, 55, dean of the Graduate School of International Studies at Seoul National University, who was designated as the new KTC chairman late last month, laid great emphasis on ``fairness’’ and ``expertise’’ as the most required virtues of the country’s trade remedy agency.

``We need to continue our efforts to improve our expertise, objectivity and fairness in trade to remain as an impartial judge in the case of unfair trade actions such as dumping or subsidies,’’ Bark said in an interview with The Korea Times Wednesday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear not (Korea Times): </p>
<p>South Korea needs an organization that will fairly protect domestic industries from unfair trade practices by foreign players in the era of free trade and the Korea Trade Commission (KTC) aims to do just that, striving to be one with the highest level of credibility, its new chairman says.</p>
<p>Dr. Bark Tae-ho, 55, dean of the Graduate School of International Studies at Seoul National University, who was designated as the new KTC chairman late last month, laid great emphasis on &#8220;fairness’’ and &#8220;expertise’’ as the most required virtues of the country’s trade remedy agency.</p>
<p>&#8220;We need to continue our efforts to improve our expertise, objectivity and fairness in trade to remain as an impartial judge in the case of unfair trade actions such as dumping or subsidies,’’ Bark said in an interview with The Korea Times Wednesday.</p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/12/they-report-you-decide-ii/#comment-96032</link>
		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wedge:

Roger that, the Korea Defense establishment is just the same as the usual suspects  -- on steroids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wedge:</p>
<p>Roger that, the Korea Defense establishment is just the same as the usual suspects  &#8212; on steroids.</p>
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		<title>By: Wedge</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/12/they-report-you-decide-ii/#comment-96008</link>
		<dc:creator>Wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 04:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sperwer: When I was referring to high-maintenance customers I actually meant the defense establishment. Certainly it cuts across all levels of society, though.

The defense procurement authority here is generally recognized as the most difficult to deal with in the world (something Coreans can be proud of). Convincing the guys at the home office to do business here requires adding margin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sperwer: When I was referring to high-maintenance customers I actually meant the defense establishment. Certainly it cuts across all levels of society, though.</p>
<p>The defense procurement authority here is generally recognized as the most difficult to deal with in the world (something Coreans can be proud of). Convincing the guys at the home office to do business here requires adding margin.</p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 04:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wedge:

Good point, though perhaps it's worthwhile to note that there are at least two dimensions to this phenomenon.

The first concerns the end-users of the products, particularly in the case of high(er) end/luxury goods.

The second but actually the primary concern for most foreigners doing business here is the govt/local partner matrix.

Government (mis)regulation (and interference, even in the absence of anything remotely resembling legitimate authorizing legislation and/or administrative rules) and the brain damage of making (let alone maintaining and enforcing) deals with local "partners" create risks transaction costs that are a multiple of the norm in the international (not to mention, e.g., US or European domestic) business environments -- in effect a Korean Risk Muliplier (TM) that is the analogue of the Korea Discount in the securities markets.

An excellent example is that presented by the current case, where MB's troubles appear to stem from the "I die, you die" mentality of its former distributor Eugene, who has provoked this government investigation after being terminated by MB - (no doubt, for much more than justifiable cause) - with what are likely nothing more than unsubstantiated (and, ultimately, unsupportable) allegations.

Sometimes I wonder how much longer it will be before the rest of the world begins to so seriously question the wisdom of having pushed for the opening of Korea that it decides to let it lapse back into being a sort of holding pond for the toxic discharges of China.  NB it not a question of "if", but only "when".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wedge:</p>
<p>Good point, though perhaps it&#8217;s worthwhile to note that there are at least two dimensions to this phenomenon.</p>
<p>The first concerns the end-users of the products, particularly in the case of high(er) end/luxury goods.</p>
<p>The second but actually the primary concern for most foreigners doing business here is the govt/local partner matrix.</p>
<p>Government (mis)regulation (and interference, even in the absence of anything remotely resembling legitimate authorizing legislation and/or administrative rules) and the brain damage of making (let alone maintaining and enforcing) deals with local &#8220;partners&#8221; create risks transaction costs that are a multiple of the norm in the international (not to mention, e.g., US or European domestic) business environments &#8212; in effect a Korean Risk Muliplier (TM) that is the analogue of the Korea Discount in the securities markets.</p>
<p>An excellent example is that presented by the current case, where MB&#8217;s troubles appear to stem from the &#8220;I die, you die&#8221; mentality of its former distributor Eugene, who has provoked this government investigation after being terminated by MB - (no doubt, for much more than justifiable cause) - with what are likely nothing more than unsubstantiated (and, ultimately, unsupportable) allegations.</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder how much longer it will be before the rest of the world begins to so seriously question the wisdom of having pushed for the opening of Korea that it decides to let it lapse back into being a sort of holding pond for the toxic discharges of China.  NB it not a question of &#8220;if&#8221;, but only &#8220;when&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Wedge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I've sold equipment here I've usually offered it for 10-25% higher than my company's global average price. Why? Because this is a high-maintenance country with high-maintenance customers, expecting levels of service beyond anyone else save perhaps Japan and Singapore. 

For Mercedes to charge a premium here is entirely in line with sound business practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I&#8217;ve sold equipment here I&#8217;ve usually offered it for 10-25% higher than my company&#8217;s global average price. Why? Because this is a high-maintenance country with high-maintenance customers, expecting levels of service beyond anyone else save perhaps Japan and Singapore. </p>
<p>For Mercedes to charge a premium here is entirely in line with sound business practice.</p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MigukNamja:

The fact that MB charges its Korean distributor more than its Japanese and US distributors obviously doesn't mean that MB makes less profit, but that the profit of the local distributor is (theoretically) lower because its cost is higher.  The NTA has got its panties in a twist because they figure there is a transfer pricing ploy in play that thereby lowers the Korean-based profits and, hence, the Korean tax take, while MB is still enjoying the same or even larger profit that it is collecting somewhere else - either in Germany or, more likely, in some intermediate tax-advantaged location with a marginal rate of tax much lower than either Germany or Korea - in which case it's multiplying the value of its after tax profit even more.  And we know from the travails of Lonestar, Newbridge, and others - now including GE Real Estate - how the local mercantilists feel about that particular form of theft of their national wealth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MigukNamja:</p>
<p>The fact that MB charges its Korean distributor more than its Japanese and US distributors obviously doesn&#8217;t mean that MB makes less profit, but that the profit of the local distributor is (theoretically) lower because its cost is higher.  The NTA has got its panties in a twist because they figure there is a transfer pricing ploy in play that thereby lowers the Korean-based profits and, hence, the Korean tax take, while MB is still enjoying the same or even larger profit that it is collecting somewhere else - either in Germany or, more likely, in some intermediate tax-advantaged location with a marginal rate of tax much lower than either Germany or Korea - in which case it&#8217;s multiplying the value of its after tax profit even more.  And we know from the travails of Lonestar, Newbridge, and others - now including GE Real Estate - how the local mercantilists feel about that particular form of theft of their national wealth.</p>
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		<title>By: Dram_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dram_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 02:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MiGuk&#62; You have a point, and I do not have information per se, but rather things to add to the mix.
1. Despite what you may think from  my post, I do not think these are related per se. What I found funny was the fact they appeared one day after the other.
2. I wonder what may be going on is, if the NTS is trying to crucify MB for whatever reason, if they are doing it by selective enforcement.
3. As the former article indicates, there a a whole host of taxes that car buyers must pay. So your calculation may not be a simple as NI times a tax rate. MB could have been screwing around with a number of taxes (e.g. registration, displacement, import) And further it should be noted that the actions could have been to lower the overall price of the auto, or to cheat somebody (customer, government, suppliers, etc.).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MiGuk&gt; You have a point, and I do not have information per se, but rather things to add to the mix.<br />
1. Despite what you may think from  my post, I do not think these are related per se. What I found funny was the fact they appeared one day after the other.<br />
2. I wonder what may be going on is, if the NTS is trying to crucify MB for whatever reason, if they are doing it by selective enforcement.<br />
3. As the former article indicates, there a a whole host of taxes that car buyers must pay. So your calculation may not be a simple as NI times a tax rate. MB could have been screwing around with a number of taxes (e.g. registration, displacement, import) And further it should be noted that the actions could have been to lower the overall price of the auto, or to cheat somebody (customer, government, suppliers, etc.).</p>
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