Sorry mate, although i’ve been living in Sydney since I was born (well over 20 years ago), I haven’t really been to Cabramatta and the western region except Parramatta lol

Getting back to Koreans in the Philippines, here in Angeles City at least, there’s the business crowd and the ‘fun in the sun’ crowd (not mutually exclusive here). Korean men typically visit here for the cheap availability of women in bars. A Korean man can buy a roundtrip ticket to the Philippines, spend a week here drinking and carousing and still spend less than ONE night out in Seoul doing the same thing. Who wouldn’t want to come here for that? Hehehehe…

In spite of my serious endeavours to motivate her in this respect my (Korean) wife has never managed to learn English properly (she has good reading skills, but does not get to grips with speaking or writing in this language) - she managed to learn German though, as she knew this to be of practical relevance for her.

“…the converse is true also…”

Indeed it is. I am speaking from experience…

Hell, I’m sure tons of kids, regardless of nationality, and if they had rich parents, would try to find all kinds of ways to get their parents to foot the “educational” bill if they can get lots of fun, sun and sex at the same time.

Back in my college days, the university owned bar’s tab would say “USC Bookstore” on the credit card receipts. Brilliant! You can drink every day and tell your parents you are just buying books and supplies…

I can’t really speak for all Koreans in the Philippines, but I’d hazard to guess that Koreans go there for different reasons, just like Koreans did when they came to the states. The old fellas go there for the sun and cheap living expenses, business ppl for money making opps, etc. I think those that come there for English learning opps do it for their kids, not necessarily for themselves. English is notoriously hard for Koreans to learn (the converse is true also). I know Koreans who came as adults to the states and have lived here for 20 years and still don’t speak English well, but their kids are fluent and they are happy with that.

I would imagine that Korean Kids (from the ROK, not from Southern California !) are cheating their own parents. They make them pay for a “English study year” in the Philippines, but their real motivation is the prospect of “Sun, Sex and Sand”.

WangKon936:

Are you implying that, in order to hear understandable English spoken by Koreans, we have to wait for the 2nd generation of Koreans in the PHILIPPINES ? Why on earth did the 1st generation of Koreans move to these islands in the 1st place ? I thought it was for the sake of learning the language (English I mean, not Tagalog)…

WangKon936 has got a point here. I was quite frustrated when I watched the movie. Didn’t get much out of it…

“Many 2nd generation Korean kids in California have adopted African American street slang.”

There can be no doubt that the ISE (2nd generation KAs) interact with the larger society more than their immigrant parents. But IMHO to adopt African-American or any other type of street slang is not very commendable for this purpose. Okay, it depends on who you want to interact with…

What I meant is that filipinos and Indians speak better English then all other non-English heritage nations. Thus those nations speak English better then all nations with the exception to the U.S., Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

And your point is valid as well. As there are some subcultures within these native English speaking nations that would make Indian English sound quite nice in comparison. For example, I think Indian English sounds much better then the English spoken in the non-dubbed version of Trainspotting…

Agree with #14… BUT… that’s the 1st generation. What about the second generation? I live in Southern California, where Koreans are equally insular, but there are vast differences between how 1st and 2nd generations interact with the larger society. Many 2nd generation Korean kids in California have adopted African American street slang. Must comfound their parents greatly!

#16, errr… that was a shot in the dark and you missed.