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		<title>By: Are You NKay? &#124; North Korean Human Rights Live - Too Ill for Freedom?</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/10/abomination/#comment-96218</link>
		<dc:creator>Are You NKay? &#124; North Korean Human Rights Live - Too Ill for Freedom?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been a bit of discussion of the Shin Dong Hyok article (here and here) about the mental health of Shin and millions of other North Koreans. The perception is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DPRK Studies</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/10/abomination/#comment-96138</link>
		<dc:creator>DPRK Studies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;North Korean Refugee Mental Health Issues...&lt;/strong&gt;

It’s not surprising, or shouldn’t be, that defectors and refugees from North Korea might have high instances of mental health issues. However, the story of Shin Dong Hyok, a North Korea defector who escaped from a “total control” concentration ...</description>
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<p>It’s not surprising, or shouldn’t be, that defectors and refugees from North Korea might have high instances of mental health issues. However, the story of Shin Dong Hyok, a North Korea defector who escaped from a “total control” concentration &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul H.</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/10/abomination/#comment-95965</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someguy: 
Sorry, I was being sarcastic earlier in response to your perceived sarcasm.

I should (again) take a lesson from Baduk.  

The quote is from Shakespeare -- Richard III.  Act I, scene II.  

Your instinct as to it being part of a movie was a good one, actually; these lines are quoted at the very end of an "existential action movie" called "Runaway Train" (1985).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someguy:<br />
Sorry, I was being sarcastic earlier in response to your perceived sarcasm.</p>
<p>I should (again) take a lesson from Baduk.  </p>
<p>The quote is from Shakespeare &#8212; Richard III.  Act I, scene II.  </p>
<p>Your instinct as to it being part of a movie was a good one, actually; these lines are quoted at the very end of an &#8220;existential action movie&#8221; called &#8220;Runaway Train&#8221; (1985).</p>
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		<title>By: MigukNamja</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/10/abomination/#comment-95870</link>
		<dc:creator>MigukNamja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yourbutt,

Re: "But, people on this blog should consider the fact that Koreans have the wish to some day reconcile the division of peninsula, agree to a “peace” and re-unify.
You guys dont seem to get how important that is."

We understand how important it is, which is why we're completely frustrated with the incompetence of the ROK government, especially the Noh administration.

Propping up deranged dictators without demanding reciprocity is a sure formula for failure. Kim Jong-Il and his generals are more than happy to take everything they can from South Korea and give little to nothing back in return.

I would fully support the ROK's efforts to unify the peninsula if there was some &lt;b&gt;forward&lt;/b&gt; progress, but there seems to be only handouts to the DPRK, thus  sending the message that Seoul not only tolerates the DPRK's abuses, but supports them.

If your little brother is out of line and hurting other kids, do you keep quiet and keep rewarding him for his misbehavior ?

Case study : WWII and Hitler. Europe was hoping like hell to avoid another World War. However, by caving to Hitler's every demand, they helped to bring it about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yourbutt,</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;But, people on this blog should consider the fact that Koreans have the wish to some day reconcile the division of peninsula, agree to a “peace” and re-unify.<br />
You guys dont seem to get how important that is.&#8221;</p>
<p>We understand how important it is, which is why we&#8217;re completely frustrated with the incompetence of the ROK government, especially the Noh administration.</p>
<p>Propping up deranged dictators without demanding reciprocity is a sure formula for failure. Kim Jong-Il and his generals are more than happy to take everything they can from South Korea and give little to nothing back in return.</p>
<p>I would fully support the ROK&#8217;s efforts to unify the peninsula if there was some <b>forward</b> progress, but there seems to be only handouts to the DPRK, thus  sending the message that Seoul not only tolerates the DPRK&#8217;s abuses, but supports them.</p>
<p>If your little brother is out of line and hurting other kids, do you keep quiet and keep rewarding him for his misbehavior ?</p>
<p>Case study : WWII and Hitler. Europe was hoping like hell to avoid another World War. However, by caving to Hitler&#8217;s every demand, they helped to bring it about.</p>
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		<title>By: TomCoyner</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/10/abomination/#comment-95840</link>
		<dc:creator>TomCoyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect in such extreme situations, the individual becomes extremely egotistical as a requirement for physical survival.  Yet, in a totalitarian society, the State calls for submission of the ego for the good of society while at the same fosters the ego's fear of survival as a control lever.  This as good of a case in point I have ever come across.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect in such extreme situations, the individual becomes extremely egotistical as a requirement for physical survival.  Yet, in a totalitarian society, the State calls for submission of the ego for the good of society while at the same fosters the ego&#8217;s fear of survival as a control lever.  This as good of a case in point I have ever come across.</p>
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		<title>By: yourbutt</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/10/abomination/#comment-95839</link>
		<dc:creator>yourbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To No. 3 and No. 5, et al.
There are plenty of stories like this. There wqas even a hit theatrical production "Yoduk Story" I have plenty of articles in Korean and some in English, too.
Norht Korea and the Human Rights abuses that occur there are , naturally wrenching issues for all Korean, South and ones living abroad, as well as for other people who simply see such rights as universal. 
No one here has a special insight or knowledge or courage to speak out about it.
But, people on this blog should consider the fact that Koreans have the wish to some day reconcile the division of peninsula, agree to a "peace" and re-unify. 
You guys dont seem to get how important that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To No. 3 and No. 5, et al.<br />
There are plenty of stories like this. There wqas even a hit theatrical production &#8220;Yoduk Story&#8221; I have plenty of articles in Korean and some in English, too.<br />
Norht Korea and the Human Rights abuses that occur there are , naturally wrenching issues for all Korean, South and ones living abroad, as well as for other people who simply see such rights as universal.<br />
No one here has a special insight or knowledge or courage to speak out about it.<br />
But, people on this blog should consider the fact that Koreans have the wish to some day reconcile the division of peninsula, agree to a &#8220;peace&#8221; and re-unify.<br />
You guys dont seem to get how important that is.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/10/abomination/#comment-95813</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

Well, he was already a well established martial artist before he met Bruce Lee, but Bruce Lee did train him. 

 A bit of interesting trivia:  Chuck Norris does Tae Kwon Do.  In fact, he was the first Westerner to be given the rank of Grand Master in Tae Kwon Do. He began doing martial arts while he was stationed at Osan Air Base, doing Tang Soo Do, a Korean style of Karate that, with others, eventually evolved into Tae Kwon Do.  Naturally, the martial art system he developed, Chun Kuk Do, has a Korean name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Well, he was already a well established martial artist before he met Bruce Lee, but Bruce Lee did train him. </p>
<p> A bit of interesting trivia:  Chuck Norris does Tae Kwon Do.  In fact, he was the first Westerner to be given the rank of Grand Master in Tae Kwon Do. He began doing martial arts while he was stationed at Osan Air Base, doing Tang Soo Do, a Korean style of Karate that, with others, eventually evolved into Tae Kwon Do.  Naturally, the martial art system he developed, Chun Kuk Do, has a Korean name.</p>
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		<title>By: Baek du boy</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/10/abomination/#comment-95807</link>
		<dc:creator>Baek du boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he can't forgive his mother for trying to esacpe and causing him to be tortured for 7 odd months, why did he do the exact same thing and possibly subject his father to a death sentence or more torture at least??? 

I can't read enough about North Korean's experiences on the other side of the DMZ...thanks for the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he can&#8217;t forgive his mother for trying to esacpe and causing him to be tortured for 7 odd months, why did he do the exact same thing and possibly subject his father to a death sentence or more torture at least??? </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t read enough about North Korean&#8217;s experiences on the other side of the DMZ&#8230;thanks for the post.</p>
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		<title>By: kyochan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/10/abomination/#comment-95806</link>
		<dc:creator>kyochan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richardson,

I don't think it really matters whether he uses his real name or pic.  Considering that he escaped from a camp for families of the hostile class, what more could NK possibly do?  Kill his family?  They already did that.  Frankly I'm glad there is a real face behind NK's depravity (Shin is 24, only 2 years my senior, he looks way older).

For those so concerned about economic costs of a free NK, then I guess we can pay now with our sense of humanity so we can put it off a couple more years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richardson,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it really matters whether he uses his real name or pic.  Considering that he escaped from a camp for families of the hostile class, what more could NK possibly do?  Kill his family?  They already did that.  Frankly I&#8217;m glad there is a real face behind NK&#8217;s depravity (Shin is 24, only 2 years my senior, he looks way older).</p>
<p>For those so concerned about economic costs of a free NK, then I guess we can pay now with our sense of humanity so we can put it off a couple more years.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul H.</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/10/abomination/#comment-95802</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it was the trailer of a Bruce Lee movie; he's the one that trained Chuck Norris.</description>
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