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	<title>Comments on: Music Education for Korea?</title>
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		<title>By: jjpw</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/09/music-education-for-korea/#comment-95723</link>
		<dc:creator>jjpw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, R.Elgin,

Thanks for the links to the update on Saemungum. I went there and took some photos in 2003. It was a beautiful place. 

I'd be interested to know if there is any concert or any other Korean-run event to promote further awareness about the situation there.

But for your comment on Korea and the Live Earth concert: that article you quoted I think continues further on that Korea is one of only two countries in the world that has ratified both Kyoto AND joined that 'sham pact' that Gore was talking about. I think if a country only signs up for that pact, it's a very weak sign. If it's signed up for both, that's a stronger sign than only ratifying Kyoto. In the end though, they're only signs. What the reality of the effort for the environment within any nation is a different question.

It comes back to grassroots activism and what's happening at a local level. 

'Where the people lead, the leaders will follow.'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, R.Elgin,</p>
<p>Thanks for the links to the update on Saemungum. I went there and took some photos in 2003. It was a beautiful place. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested to know if there is any concert or any other Korean-run event to promote further awareness about the situation there.</p>
<p>But for your comment on Korea and the Live Earth concert: that article you quoted I think continues further on that Korea is one of only two countries in the world that has ratified both Kyoto AND joined that &#8217;sham pact&#8217; that Gore was talking about. I think if a country only signs up for that pact, it&#8217;s a very weak sign. If it&#8217;s signed up for both, that&#8217;s a stronger sign than only ratifying Kyoto. In the end though, they&#8217;re only signs. What the reality of the effort for the environment within any nation is a different question.</p>
<p>It comes back to grassroots activism and what&#8217;s happening at a local level. </p>
<p>&#8216;Where the people lead, the leaders will follow.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: jjpw</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/09/music-education-for-korea/#comment-95720</link>
		<dc:creator>jjpw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 07:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, WJS,

Tim Blair's point is fairly moot:

yeah, okay, there were relatively few people watching the concerts televised publicly in Brisbane. Maybe they were part of the 2 billion watching on TV or online, and more so since the end of the concert, because they're still available online. Sorry I don't have the link but one prediction was more would watch actually after the event. The short, punchy clips or info. soundbites that do serve to raise awareness without painful preaching seem for the most part still to be embedded in the performances.

As for your link to that article in the Sun-Times by James M. Taylor of the Heartland Institute, a simple wikipedia read crushes any validity of anything he has to say:

James M. Taylor is senior fellow for environment policy at the Heartland Institute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Institute

The Institute was a member organization of the Cooler Heads Coalition which questioned the impact of global warming and felt that climate control policies hurt consumers. The Board of Directors for the Heartland Institute includes Thomas Walton, an executive of General Motors Corporation.
Funding
The Heartland Institute receives donations from over 1400 individuals. No corporate entity donates more than 5% of the operating budget according to brochures from the company. [2]
According to Exxon Secrets.org , The Heartland Institute has received annual donations from Exxon-Mobil in amounts ranging from $100,000 to $200,000. [3]
[edit] Tobacco
The Institute has been actively involved in debate over tobacco policy. The Institute received over $150,000 from the Phillip Morris over three years from 1997 to 1999[4].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, WJS,</p>
<p>Tim Blair&#8217;s point is fairly moot:</p>
<p>yeah, okay, there were relatively few people watching the concerts televised publicly in Brisbane. Maybe they were part of the 2 billion watching on TV or online, and more so since the end of the concert, because they&#8217;re still available online. Sorry I don&#8217;t have the link but one prediction was more would watch actually after the event. The short, punchy clips or info. soundbites that do serve to raise awareness without painful preaching seem for the most part still to be embedded in the performances.</p>
<p>As for your link to that article in the Sun-Times by James M. Taylor of the Heartland Institute, a simple wikipedia read crushes any validity of anything he has to say:</p>
<p>James M. Taylor is senior fellow for environment policy at the Heartland Institute.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Institute" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Institute</a></p>
<p>The Institute was a member organization of the Cooler Heads Coalition which questioned the impact of global warming and felt that climate control policies hurt consumers. The Board of Directors for the Heartland Institute includes Thomas Walton, an executive of General Motors Corporation.<br />
Funding<br />
The Heartland Institute receives donations from over 1400 individuals. No corporate entity donates more than 5% of the operating budget according to brochures from the company. [2]<br />
According to Exxon Secrets.org , The Heartland Institute has received annual donations from Exxon-Mobil in amounts ranging from $100,000 to $200,000. [3]<br />
[edit] Tobacco<br />
The Institute has been actively involved in debate over tobacco policy. The Institute received over $150,000 from the Phillip Morris over three years from 1997 to 1999[4].</p>
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		<title>By: sanshinseon</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/09/music-education-for-korea/#comment-95684</link>
		<dc:creator>sanshinseon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 01:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saemangeum is truly an act of pointless hubristic evil, and the failure to stop it says some pretty bad things about the SK society's eco-awareness level and the prospects for ever slowing the rate of damage here...  :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saemangeum is truly an act of pointless hubristic evil, and the failure to stop it says some pretty bad things about the SK society&#8217;s eco-awareness level and the prospects for ever slowing the rate of damage here&#8230;  <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: globalvillageidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/09/music-education-for-korea/#comment-95680</link>
		<dc:creator>globalvillageidiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 01:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comprehensive policies to address larger environmental concerns would be nice, but I'm not convinced that there is even a sufficient level of civic pride to make even basic local level recycling programs work to their full potential.    

Bucheon City distributed mesh recycling bags with draw strings several months ago.  Ours went missing within a couple of weeks, and now almost everybody else on the block is back to stuffing the recycling into plastic Emart and Homever bags.  I can only assume that the special recycling bags were stolen by people off the sidewalk or are now being used by residents they were issued to for the purpose of storing things in their apartments.  

That proposed Saemangeum Project concert is warped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comprehensive policies to address larger environmental concerns would be nice, but I&#8217;m not convinced that there is even a sufficient level of civic pride to make even basic local level recycling programs work to their full potential.    </p>
<p>Bucheon City distributed mesh recycling bags with draw strings several months ago.  Ours went missing within a couple of weeks, and now almost everybody else on the block is back to stuffing the recycling into plastic Emart and Homever bags.  I can only assume that the special recycling bags were stolen by people off the sidewalk or are now being used by residents they were issued to for the purpose of storing things in their apartments.  </p>
<p>That proposed Saemangeum Project concert is warped.</p>
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		<title>By: congee</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/09/music-education-for-korea/#comment-95678</link>
		<dc:creator>congee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where I live in Canada you're only allowed to throw out one bag of garbage a week and composting is mandatory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where I live in Canada you&#8217;re only allowed to throw out one bag of garbage a week and composting is mandatory.</p>
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		<title>By: Fantasy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fantasy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, R. Elgin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, R. Elgin</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/09/music-education-for-korea/#comment-95658</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, recycling in Korea is penny-wise yet pound foolish.  While it may be commendable, it is not a substitute for having comprehensive pro-environmental policies -- policies that Korea needs badly.  
There needs better education and incentive to take better care of the land and the resources of this great country.  

Anything else is not enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, recycling in Korea is penny-wise yet pound foolish.  While it may be commendable, it is not a substitute for having comprehensive pro-environmental policies &#8212; policies that Korea needs badly.<br />
There needs better education and incentive to take better care of the land and the resources of this great country.  </p>
<p>Anything else is not enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Fantasy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fantasy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, Someguy, Canada maybe even better here, but the ROK is still quite good, better than most countries anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, Someguy, Canada maybe even better here, but the ROK is still quite good, better than most countries anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fantasy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fantasy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"but I also think other countries should learn from the Koreans with their recycling"

Yes, I am in full agreement here - I feel obliged to pay tribute to the Korean perseverance in this matter. The ROK is certainly at the forefront of progress when it come to recyclable materials...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but I also think other countries should learn from the Koreans with their recycling&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, I am in full agreement here - I feel obliged to pay tribute to the Korean perseverance in this matter. The ROK is certainly at the forefront of progress when it come to recyclable materials&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7...Sorry, but throwing a few things in the recycling bin is really nothing to get excited about.  When I went back home last summer, my friend had 3 separate garbage bags (one for dry recyclable waste, and one for wet recyclable waste, one for food waste...and a bin for bottles, cans, and cardboard).  Everything but food waste went to recycling.  The garbage collectors check to make sure that the right thing is in the right bag.  If it isn't, they hand out a sizable fine.  Oh, and all bottles and cans are consigned: 10-20cents, depending on size, and you get half back when you return them to recycling centre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7&#8230;Sorry, but throwing a few things in the recycling bin is really nothing to get excited about.  When I went back home last summer, my friend had 3 separate garbage bags (one for dry recyclable waste, and one for wet recyclable waste, one for food waste&#8230;and a bin for bottles, cans, and cardboard).  Everything but food waste went to recycling.  The garbage collectors check to make sure that the right thing is in the right bag.  If it isn&#8217;t, they hand out a sizable fine.  Oh, and all bottles and cans are consigned: 10-20cents, depending on size, and you get half back when you return them to recycling centre.</p>
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