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		<title>By: Wedge</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/03/corruption-r-us-revisited/#comment-95143</link>
		<dc:creator>Wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 03:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, that should be, "UV, as in Ut videam, is absolutely right."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that should be, &#8220;UV, as in Ut videam, is absolutely right.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Wedge</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/03/corruption-r-us-revisited/#comment-95142</link>
		<dc:creator>Wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 03:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, why does lying about a non-crime (the Plame be-yotch hadn't been overseas in more than three years, hence she was not a "secret" agent) deserve 30 months in jail? And what about Richard Armitage, the guy who actually "outed" the chica? As the one actually leaking to the press, does he deserve any punishment? I would say no, as there wasn't a crime, but why the media silence about that guy? Oh, I forgot, he wasn't part of the evil Cheney side of the administration; he was on the soft, good guy Colin Powell side.

And then we have the case of Sandy "Stuffed Trou" Berger, a guy who actually did something quite illegal--stealing classified documents--and got away scot free. Nice to see our judiciary has double standards. 

UT is absolutely right, we have probably never needed an executive check on the judicial branch more than we do now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, why does lying about a non-crime (the Plame be-yotch hadn&#8217;t been overseas in more than three years, hence she was not a &#8220;secret&#8221; agent) deserve 30 months in jail? And what about Richard Armitage, the guy who actually &#8220;outed&#8221; the chica? As the one actually leaking to the press, does he deserve any punishment? I would say no, as there wasn&#8217;t a crime, but why the media silence about that guy? Oh, I forgot, he wasn&#8217;t part of the evil Cheney side of the administration; he was on the soft, good guy Colin Powell side.</p>
<p>And then we have the case of Sandy &#8220;Stuffed Trou&#8221; Berger, a guy who actually did something quite illegal&#8211;stealing classified documents&#8211;and got away scot free. Nice to see our judiciary has double standards. </p>
<p>UT is absolutely right, we have probably never needed an executive check on the judicial branch more than we do now.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/03/corruption-r-us-revisited/#comment-95134</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 02:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linkd,

The Republic Party has the backing of a lot of people with very, very deep pockets who I'm sure we're quite willing to cover Libby's bill in exchange for unspecified favors in the future.

The man got off practically scot-free, and that's a travesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linkd,</p>
<p>The Republic Party has the backing of a lot of people with very, very deep pockets who I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;re quite willing to cover Libby&#8217;s bill in exchange for unspecified favors in the future.</p>
<p>The man got off practically scot-free, and that&#8217;s a travesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Linkd</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/03/corruption-r-us-revisited/#comment-95130</link>
		<dc:creator>Linkd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 02:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wrong (#11). Scooter paid.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19617734/

Guess I've been in Korea too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wrong (#11). Scooter paid.<br />
<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19617734/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19617734/</a></p>
<p>Guess I&#8217;ve been in Korea too long.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/03/corruption-r-us-revisited/#comment-95121</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 01:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I invite Dram Man and any others who still support this president to join the growing number of Americans of all political stripes (27% approval rating and falling) who are fed up with this administration's incompetence and dishonesty.

America needs patriots who are willing to say enough is enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I invite Dram Man and any others who still support this president to join the growing number of Americans of all political stripes (27% approval rating and falling) who are fed up with this administration&#8217;s incompetence and dishonesty.</p>
<p>America needs patriots who are willing to say enough is enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Ut videam</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/03/corruption-r-us-revisited/#comment-94915</link>
		<dc:creator>Ut videam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Save your outrage, Mr. Elgin. The sentence &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; excessive—Mr. Libby was a first time non-violent offender, a lifetime of public service, and &lt;em&gt;there was no underlying crime&lt;/em&gt; whose prosecution was hindered by the purported perjury of Mr. Libby. Further, the President needs no legal basis for granting executive clemency. As former President Clinton pointed out in &lt;a&gt;his New York Times op-ed defending the Marc Rich pardon&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;blockquote&gt;Article II of the Constitution gives the president broad and unreviewable power to grant "Reprieves and Pardons" for all offenses against the United States. The Supreme Court has ruled that the pardon power is granted "[t]o the [president] . . ., and it is granted without limit" (United States v. Klein).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The double standard applied by Bush-haters in this case, as in others, is appalling. Clinton canned &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; the U.S. attorneys so he could replace them with his cronies, but no one called for an investigation then. But when Bush applied the same prerogative in a slightly different manner, he was corrupt. Clinton pardoned his Whitewater crony Susan McDougal, who had committed real crimes, yet the screaming was nearly silent compared to the caterwauling engendered by this &lt;em&gt;commutation&lt;/em&gt;.

I suggest saving your outrage (as I save mine) for Bush's indefensible usurpations of power and trampling of constitutional protections—not wailing and gnashing your teeth about &lt;em&gt;legitimate&lt;/em&gt; exercises of executive power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Save your outrage, Mr. Elgin. The sentence <em>was</em> excessive—Mr. Libby was a first time non-violent offender, a lifetime of public service, and <em>there was no underlying crime</em> whose prosecution was hindered by the purported perjury of Mr. Libby. Further, the President needs no legal basis for granting executive clemency. As former President Clinton pointed out in <a>his New York Times op-ed defending the Marc Rich pardon</a>,<br />
<blockquote>Article II of the Constitution gives the president broad and unreviewable power to grant &#8220;Reprieves and Pardons&#8221; for all offenses against the United States. The Supreme Court has ruled that the pardon power is granted &#8220;[t]o the [president] . . ., and it is granted without limit&#8221; (United States v. Klein).</p></blockquote>
<p>The double standard applied by Bush-haters in this case, as in others, is appalling. Clinton canned <em>all</em> the U.S. attorneys so he could replace them with his cronies, but no one called for an investigation then. But when Bush applied the same prerogative in a slightly different manner, he was corrupt. Clinton pardoned his Whitewater crony Susan McDougal, who had committed real crimes, yet the screaming was nearly silent compared to the caterwauling engendered by this <em>commutation</em>.</p>
<p>I suggest saving your outrage (as I save mine) for Bush&#8217;s indefensible usurpations of power and trampling of constitutional protections—not wailing and gnashing your teeth about <em>legitimate</em> exercises of executive power.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/03/corruption-r-us-revisited/#comment-94914</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also:&lt;blockquote&gt;"Please let’s have a comparison with this one and the pardon of Marc Rich."&lt;/blockquote&gt;Ok, how about the fact that Marc Rich was rich enough to hire a good lawyer  -- Scooter Libby.

Now that's rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;Please let’s have a comparison with this one and the pardon of Marc Rich.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Ok, how about the fact that Marc Rich was rich enough to hire a good lawyer  &#8212; Scooter Libby.</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s rich.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/03/corruption-r-us-revisited/#comment-94909</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez, UT, review that NY Times link in #12.  I think it would kill the joy you feel in "checks".  This affair -- and its sordid history -- is not about "checks and balances" but is an example of the same sort of cronyism that we see so often right here in Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez, UT, review that NY Times link in #12.  I think it would kill the joy you feel in &#8220;checks&#8221;.  This affair &#8212; and its sordid history &#8212; is not about &#8220;checks and balances&#8221; but is an example of the same sort of cronyism that we see so often right here in Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: Ut videam</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/03/corruption-r-us-revisited/#comment-94897</link>
		<dc:creator>Ut videam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 11:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever you think about this present decision, let's not go overboard with calls for the abolition of executive clemency. The republican system designed by our Founding Fathers is based on the separation of powers &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; checks and balances, i.e., each branch has the ability to check the power of the others. 

Ever since the Warren Court, we've seen the system distorted into one where the judiciary considers itself supreme and endowed with nearly limitless power. It now routinely not only judges and reviews constitutionality, but also legislates and dictates the manner of execution of laws and judgments—in short, it infringes upon the powers proper to the other two branches. Given that the judiciary is the branch least subject to the will of the people, this is a scary, scary thing.

So whenever I see the executive and legislative branches exercising their checks on the judiciary—be it impeaching a judge, limiting the court's jurisdiction, or granting some pardons—my heart cheers a little: the Republic isn't totally dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever you think about this present decision, let&#8217;s not go overboard with calls for the abolition of executive clemency. The republican system designed by our Founding Fathers is based on the separation of powers <em>and</em> checks and balances, i.e., each branch has the ability to check the power of the others. </p>
<p>Ever since the Warren Court, we&#8217;ve seen the system distorted into one where the judiciary considers itself supreme and endowed with nearly limitless power. It now routinely not only judges and reviews constitutionality, but also legislates and dictates the manner of execution of laws and judgments—in short, it infringes upon the powers proper to the other two branches. Given that the judiciary is the branch least subject to the will of the people, this is a scary, scary thing.</p>
<p>So whenever I see the executive and legislative branches exercising their checks on the judiciary—be it impeaching a judge, limiting the court&#8217;s jurisdiction, or granting some pardons—my heart cheers a little: the Republic isn&#8217;t totally dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/07/03/corruption-r-us-revisited/#comment-94844</link>
		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bush’s commuting of the prison sentence in no way prevents him from granting a pardon later.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Don't hold YOUR breath!  That's partisanship speaking, not reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bush’s commuting of the prison sentence in no way prevents him from granting a pardon later.</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t hold YOUR breath!  That&#8217;s partisanship speaking, not reason.</p>
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