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		<title>By: Max Watson</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/29/bye-bye-traditional-measurements/#comment-94478</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 04:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with pyeong measurements isn't so much the non-international unit as much as the policy of quoting apartments and officetels in pyeong, when that measurement isn't anywhere near the actual size of the space.  Apparently the quoted measurement includes shared areas like hallways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with pyeong measurements isn&#8217;t so much the non-international unit as much as the policy of quoting apartments and officetels in pyeong, when that measurement isn&#8217;t anywhere near the actual size of the space.  Apparently the quoted measurement includes shared areas like hallways.</p>
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		<title>By: dogbertt</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/29/bye-bye-traditional-measurements/#comment-94451</link>
		<dc:creator>dogbertt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the foreigner asks for "일"근 instead of "한"근, the 아줌마 may just well chuckle a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the foreigner asks for &#8220;일&#8221;근 instead of &#8220;한&#8221;근, the 아줌마 may just well chuckle a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: dda</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/29/bye-bye-traditional-measurements/#comment-94447</link>
		<dc:creator>dda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;(unlike Breen, I never heard of it while living in Japan)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The equivalent unit in .jp is the tsubo 坪, not the 畳 [jō] as someone said above [1 jō == 1/2 a tsubo]. Note that 坪 in Korean is read, yeah, you got it, pyeong...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>(unlike Breen, I never heard of it while living in Japan)</p></blockquote>
<p>The equivalent unit in .jp is the tsubo 坪, not the 畳 [jō] as someone said above [1 jō == 1/2 a tsubo]. Note that 坪 in Korean is read, yeah, you got it, pyeong&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Socius: A Daejeon Community</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/29/bye-bye-traditional-measurements/#comment-94409</link>
		<dc:creator>Socius: A Daejeon Community</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Pyeong is Dead....&lt;/strong&gt;

Over at the Marmot&#8217;s Hole, Robert Koehler picked up on a story in the Korean Times on the Government&#8217;s policy to eliminate the measurements of pyeong, inbun and geun. We&#8217;ll have to wait and see just how successful this policy is.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Pyeong is Dead&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>Over at the Marmot&#8217;s Hole, Robert Koehler picked up on a story in the Korean Times on the Government&#8217;s policy to eliminate the measurements of pyeong, inbun and geun. We&#8217;ll have to wait and see just how successful this policy is.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sanshinseon</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/29/bye-bye-traditional-measurements/#comment-94403</link>
		<dc:creator>sanshinseon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, took me all these years to start automatically thinking of room/home sizes in pyeong, and then...

I thought its origin was the size of a Japanese-style tatami (rice-straw) floor-mat.  No?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, took me all these years to start automatically thinking of room/home sizes in pyeong, and then&#8230;</p>
<p>I thought its origin was the size of a Japanese-style tatami (rice-straw) floor-mat.  No?</p>
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		<title>By: sewing</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/29/bye-bye-traditional-measurements/#comment-94389</link>
		<dc:creator>sewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, let me fix the links:

I could see a lot of room for mismeasurement in &lt;i&gt;pyeong&lt;/i&gt;, unless surveyors, contractors, and realtors walk around with &lt;i&gt;ja&lt;/i&gt; measuring sticks (1 &lt;i&gt;ja&lt;/i&gt; being just a little over a foot or 30 cm (&lt;a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20051228140325/http://samo15.netian.com/unit.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;), and there being 6 &lt;i&gt;ja&lt;/i&gt; square or 36 square &lt;i&gt;ja&lt;/i&gt; in a &lt;i&gt;pyeong&lt;/i&gt; (&lt;a href="http://krdic.naver.com/detail.nhn?docid=40441500" rel="nofollow"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;)). If folks are measuring in metres, calculating the area, then converting to &lt;i&gt;pyeong,&lt;/i&gt; there’s potential for error. The move to metres would make sense from that point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, let me fix the links:</p>
<p>I could see a lot of room for mismeasurement in <i>pyeong</i>, unless surveyors, contractors, and realtors walk around with <i>ja</i> measuring sticks (1 <i>ja</i> being just a little over a foot or 30 cm (<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20051228140325/http://samo15.netian.com/unit.html" rel="nofollow">link</a>), and there being 6 <i>ja</i> square or 36 square <i>ja</i> in a <i>pyeong</i> (<a href="http://krdic.naver.com/detail.nhn?docid=40441500" rel="nofollow">link</a>)). If folks are measuring in metres, calculating the area, then converting to <i>pyeong,</i> there’s potential for error. The move to metres would make sense from that point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: sewing</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/29/bye-bye-traditional-measurements/#comment-94388</link>
		<dc:creator>sewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could see a lot of room for mismeasurement in &lt;i&gt;pyeong&lt;/i&gt;, unless surveyors, contractors, and realtors walk around with &lt;i&gt;ja&lt;/i&gt; measuring sticks (1 &lt;i&gt;ja&lt;/i&gt; being just a little over a foot or 30 cm (&lt;a&gt;), and there being 6 &lt;i&gt;ja&lt;/i&gt; square or 36 square &lt;i&gt;ja&lt;/i&gt; in a &lt;i&gt;pyeong&lt;/i&gt; (&lt;a href="http://krdic.naver.com/detail.nhn?docid=40441500" rel="nofollow"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;)).  If folks are measuring in metres, calculating the area, then converting to pyeong, there's potential for error.  The move to metres would make sense from that point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could see a lot of room for mismeasurement in <i>pyeong</i>, unless surveyors, contractors, and realtors walk around with <i>ja</i> measuring sticks (1 <i>ja</i> being just a little over a foot or 30 cm (<a>), and there being 6 <i>ja</i> square or 36 square <i>ja</i> in a <i>pyeong</i> (</a><a href="http://krdic.naver.com/detail.nhn?docid=40441500" rel="nofollow">link</a>)).  If folks are measuring in metres, calculating the area, then converting to pyeong, there&#8217;s potential for error.  The move to metres would make sense from that point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/29/bye-bye-traditional-measurements/#comment-94382</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"but is always interesting to see the reaction of the ajumah when the foreigner orders in “근”"

I've been doing it for 10 years and I've never gotten anything but the same reaction one of the Korean customers gets.


The 'Korean age' thing, though, is  frustrating.  My son thinks he's two years older than he really is (he was born late in the year).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but is always interesting to see the reaction of the ajumah when the foreigner orders in “근”&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been doing it for 10 years and I&#8217;ve never gotten anything but the same reaction one of the Korean customers gets.</p>
<p>The &#8216;Korean age&#8217; thing, though, is  frustrating.  My son thinks he&#8217;s two years older than he really is (he was born late in the year).</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/29/bye-bye-traditional-measurements/#comment-94370</link>
		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Korean age be scrapped, too? That would clear up a lot of needless confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Korean age be scrapped, too? That would clear up a lot of needless confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: globalvillageidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/29/bye-bye-traditional-measurements/#comment-94364</link>
		<dc:creator>globalvillageidiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"일근" of ground beef - now Australian or NZ and maybe soon again to be American - has always been the perfect amount for making a big batch of spaghetti sauce, or a smaller sized chili.  It is just as easy to order 600 grams instead, but is always interesting to see the reaction of the ajumah when the foreigner orders in "근".  (It might also just be their reaction to a guy - foreign or not - and his kid doing the shopping minus wife/mom!)  

I suspect it will be quite some time before these terms fall out of use, despite what the posted price may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;일근&#8221; of ground beef - now Australian or NZ and maybe soon again to be American - has always been the perfect amount for making a big batch of spaghetti sauce, or a smaller sized chili.  It is just as easy to order 600 grams instead, but is always interesting to see the reaction of the ajumah when the foreigner orders in &#8220;근&#8221;.  (It might also just be their reaction to a guy - foreign or not - and his kid doing the shopping minus wife/mom!)  </p>
<p>I suspect it will be quite some time before these terms fall out of use, despite what the posted price may be.</p>
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