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		<title>By: amtak</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/18/more-on-the-comfort-women-ad/#comment-95094</link>
		<dc:creator>amtak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops.  Mea culpa, with apologies.  In #53 above I mistakenly said that historical revisionist Higashinakano Shudo was barred by US occupation authorities post-World War II.  Actually it was his colleague and fellow revisionist Tanaka Masaaki.  Both have written books claiming that the "Rape of Nanking" never happened, that instead it was propaganda; and that the 141 photographs of atrocities there were faked or taken elsewhere at other times.  As to the WaPo advert, I am informed by the WaPo advertising department that it was paid for from Tokyo, by a committee of the so-called "Society for the Dissemination of Historical Fact".  For an adventure in disinformation that would please Joseph Goebbels, check out their website: www.sdh-fact.com and read their mission statement.  Then click the link to "publications" and you can read  synopses of the whacky theories behind the WaPo advert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops.  Mea culpa, with apologies.  In #53 above I mistakenly said that historical revisionist Higashinakano Shudo was barred by US occupation authorities post-World War II.  Actually it was his colleague and fellow revisionist Tanaka Masaaki.  Both have written books claiming that the &#8220;Rape of Nanking&#8221; never happened, that instead it was propaganda; and that the 141 photographs of atrocities there were faked or taken elsewhere at other times.  As to the WaPo advert, I am informed by the WaPo advertising department that it was paid for from Tokyo, by a committee of the so-called &#8220;Society for the Dissemination of Historical Fact&#8221;.  For an adventure in disinformation that would please Joseph Goebbels, check out their website: <a href="http://www.sdh-fact.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sdh-fact.com</a> and read their mission statement.  Then click the link to &#8220;publications&#8221; and you can read  synopses of the whacky theories behind the WaPo advert.</p>
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		<title>By: amtak</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/18/more-on-the-comfort-women-ad/#comment-94676</link>
		<dc:creator>amtak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me everyone is missing the point. Abe and his foreign minister have been engaged in historical revisionism for a very long time. They are part of a LDP clique to restore Japanese "dignity", in part by doctoring school textbooks.  Their entire position on comfort women, as stated in the Washington Post advert (posted by some of the more extreme LDPs) is to delete discussion of such embarrassing issues from books, so that the next generation will have no knowledge of them whatsoever. If you haven't noticed, they are also denying in the same fashion that the "Rape of Nanking" ever occurred.  One of their main authors on that subject is an academician that the US occupation authority kicked out during the reconstruction peiod (his name is Higashinakano Shudo). Abe's Foreign Minister is from a family that  ran a POW slave labor camp.  Currently they are maneuvering to amend Constitution Article 19, which forbids a Japanese military.  This is an extreme right wing that is engaged in redirecting the entire course of Japanese relationships, somthing like their militarists did during the interwar period.  (In a way, theyremind me of Dubya's administration.)  Denying the existence of comfort women is only one leg of their nationalistic/militaristic strategy.  It is pretty dastardly of them, though, to take it out on old women who still bear physical and psychological scars regardless of how Abe parses the issue (as in Clinton/Lowinsky, "it depends on what the meaning of 'forcing' is") - cf. Abe's argument with Diet member Ogawa on YouTube.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me everyone is missing the point. Abe and his foreign minister have been engaged in historical revisionism for a very long time. They are part of a LDP clique to restore Japanese &#8220;dignity&#8221;, in part by doctoring school textbooks.  Their entire position on comfort women, as stated in the Washington Post advert (posted by some of the more extreme LDPs) is to delete discussion of such embarrassing issues from books, so that the next generation will have no knowledge of them whatsoever. If you haven&#8217;t noticed, they are also denying in the same fashion that the &#8220;Rape of Nanking&#8221; ever occurred.  One of their main authors on that subject is an academician that the US occupation authority kicked out during the reconstruction peiod (his name is Higashinakano Shudo). Abe&#8217;s Foreign Minister is from a family that  ran a POW slave labor camp.  Currently they are maneuvering to amend Constitution Article 19, which forbids a Japanese military.  This is an extreme right wing that is engaged in redirecting the entire course of Japanese relationships, somthing like their militarists did during the interwar period.  (In a way, theyremind me of Dubya&#8217;s administration.)  Denying the existence of comfort women is only one leg of their nationalistic/militaristic strategy.  It is pretty dastardly of them, though, to take it out on old women who still bear physical and psychological scars regardless of how Abe parses the issue (as in Clinton/Lowinsky, &#8220;it depends on what the meaning of &#8216;forcing&#8217; is&#8221;) - cf. Abe&#8217;s argument with Diet member Ogawa on YouTube.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantasy, well put in #50!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantasy, well put in #50!</p>
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		<title>By: Ut videam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ut videam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 01:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSPEK22832220070625?feedType=RSS&#38;rpc=22&#38;sp=true

Wonder what the spin doctors will have to say about this?</description>
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<p>Wonder what the spin doctors will have to say about this?</p>
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		<title>By: Eyes East &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Japan: &#8220;We didn&#8217;t do it&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/18/more-on-the-comfort-women-ad/#comment-89863</link>
		<dc:creator>Eyes East &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Japan: &#8220;We didn&#8217;t do it&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Marmot&#8217;s Hole in South Korea is all over this, giving a point-by-point rebuttal. Lee Yong-soo might have her own [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Marmot&#8217;s Hole in South Korea is all over this, giving a point-by-point rebuttal. Lee Yong-soo might have her own [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fantasy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fantasy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ponta,

please do not get me wrong - in no way do I intent to attack Japan, quite the contrary. I believe that post-war Japan has continuously been, is, and will remain a much better place to live than countries such as e.g. South Korea, Mainland China etc. (and maybe even better than Germany, as well).

"And as you know, several PMs apologized for it."

Yes, Ponta, I am aware of this fact.

The problem is, however, that each and every of these apologies has come over to the public as insincere and opportunistic, at least so it seemed to our Western perception. It is this constant "Yes, we have done that, but then again, we haven't really" attitude of Japan's which goes so much on everybody's nerves. Can you modern Japanese not once clearly state "Yes, Imperial Japan was a rogue state and it has committed disgusting atrocities. Full stop."? In the same vein in which the Germans have recognised the indisputable fact that their country has started two world wars without provocation or good cause and thus is the prime responsible for the loss of some 10 million lives in WWI and of around 55 million lives in WWII (and, in addition, murdered 6 million people in the concentration camps - the most awful crime ever committed in history).

The historical facts are crystal-clear regarding these issues - no ifs, no buts, no cop-outs. Even primary school students in this country are taught extensively about the awful truth. When I was in 1st grade in a regular German primary school as far back as 1971 the teacher  dealt with the subject in detail over a period of several weeks. That, of course, was a harassing experience for us six-year olds, but it had to be done. And if I had children of my own I would make sure that they, too, were to be provided with the very same experience.

Maybe we Western people are incapable of understanding the Japanese attitude due to the cultural differences between East Asia and the West - and I am full well aware that the Koreans and Chinese apply the very same tactics when it comes to their own wrongdoings. In spite of the ostensible animosities between them, the three North-East Asian nations are actually quite similar in many respects.

But all of you are shooting yourselves in the foot as the issues will not come to rest and forgiveness will not be granted unless it is preceded by a straight-forward acceptance and admission of guilt... 

Japan would have had the Comfort Women issue off the table for decades if she had freely admitted her unmitigated culpability, coupled with adequate compensation for the victims. But the fact remains that her guilt grows with every day she remains in denial...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ponta,</p>
<p>please do not get me wrong - in no way do I intent to attack Japan, quite the contrary. I believe that post-war Japan has continuously been, is, and will remain a much better place to live than countries such as e.g. South Korea, Mainland China etc. (and maybe even better than Germany, as well).</p>
<p>&#8220;And as you know, several PMs apologized for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, Ponta, I am aware of this fact.</p>
<p>The problem is, however, that each and every of these apologies has come over to the public as insincere and opportunistic, at least so it seemed to our Western perception. It is this constant &#8220;Yes, we have done that, but then again, we haven&#8217;t really&#8221; attitude of Japan&#8217;s which goes so much on everybody&#8217;s nerves. Can you modern Japanese not once clearly state &#8220;Yes, Imperial Japan was a rogue state and it has committed disgusting atrocities. Full stop.&#8221;? In the same vein in which the Germans have recognised the indisputable fact that their country has started two world wars without provocation or good cause and thus is the prime responsible for the loss of some 10 million lives in WWI and of around 55 million lives in WWII (and, in addition, murdered 6 million people in the concentration camps - the most awful crime ever committed in history).</p>
<p>The historical facts are crystal-clear regarding these issues - no ifs, no buts, no cop-outs. Even primary school students in this country are taught extensively about the awful truth. When I was in 1st grade in a regular German primary school as far back as 1971 the teacher  dealt with the subject in detail over a period of several weeks. That, of course, was a harassing experience for us six-year olds, but it had to be done. And if I had children of my own I would make sure that they, too, were to be provided with the very same experience.</p>
<p>Maybe we Western people are incapable of understanding the Japanese attitude due to the cultural differences between East Asia and the West - and I am full well aware that the Koreans and Chinese apply the very same tactics when it comes to their own wrongdoings. In spite of the ostensible animosities between them, the three North-East Asian nations are actually quite similar in many respects.</p>
<p>But all of you are shooting yourselves in the foot as the issues will not come to rest and forgiveness will not be granted unless it is preceded by a straight-forward acceptance and admission of guilt&#8230; </p>
<p>Japan would have had the Comfort Women issue off the table for decades if she had freely admitted her unmitigated culpability, coupled with adequate compensation for the victims. But the fact remains that her guilt grows with every day she remains in denial&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ponta.</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponta.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if I failed to convey what I wanted to say.
It was in respond to Fantacy's comment that"We weren’t around then, so why should we get upset ?" What I wante to say was I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if I failed to convey what I wanted to say.<br />
It was in respond to Fantacy&#8217;s comment that&#8221;We weren’t around then, so why should we get upset ?&#8221; What I wante to say was I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 05:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still dodging, eh ponta?

"...nothing upsetting about the past of Japan,"

Surely, you're joking, ponta.

How is it a "bit off topic"? Looking forward to your answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still dodging, eh ponta?</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;nothing upsetting about the past of Japan,&#8221;</p>
<p>Surely, you&#8217;re joking, ponta.</p>
<p>How is it a &#8220;bit off topic&#8221;? Looking forward to your answer.</p>
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		<title>By: ponta.</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponta.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantacy.
Thank you.
As I said on this thread, I think the colonization was wrong and Japan is  to blame for the comfort stations under Japanese rule. And as you know, several PMs apologized for it.
I also agree there is nothing upsetting about the past of Japan, however it is evaluated, since we were not living at that times.
As for how we should look at the times of Imperialism, that is a big issue,and a bit off the topic, so let's discuss it when some related topics comes up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantacy.<br />
Thank you.<br />
As I said on this thread, I think the colonization was wrong and Japan is  to blame for the comfort stations under Japanese rule. And as you know, several PMs apologized for it.<br />
I also agree there is nothing upsetting about the past of Japan, however it is evaluated, since we were not living at that times.<br />
As for how we should look at the times of Imperialism, that is a big issue,and a bit off the topic, so let&#8217;s discuss it when some related topics comes up.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>post #37:

&lt;i&gt;"Fuck Japan."&lt;/i&gt;

I thought I'd be free of reading kiddie drivel while on summer vacation, but I'd forgotten about those stream-of-consciousness multiple posts at the Marmots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>post #37:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Fuck Japan.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I thought I&#8217;d be free of reading kiddie drivel while on summer vacation, but I&#8217;d forgotten about those stream-of-consciousness multiple posts at the Marmots.</p>
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