Comments on: USTR to request renegotiation of free trade deal? http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/ Korea... in Blog Format Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:22:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: OneFreeKorea » FTA Annex Could Allow Kaesong Imports http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85808 OneFreeKorea » FTA Annex Could Allow Kaesong Imports Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:27:04 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85808 [...] The Marmot and Richardson disapprove, believing that we had a deal and should stick to it.  Many of Robert’s commenters argue that because Korea habitually fails to keep its own agreements, that this will be a highly satisfying teaching point.  As to the latter point, it doesn’t quite manage to persuade me.  The second of two wrongs may put a smile on your face, but it still doesn’t make a right.  This is not to deny that I’m also smiling, because I think Schwab’s people signed a bad deal. [...] [...] The Marmot and Richardson disapprove, believing that we had a deal and should stick to it.  Many of Robert’s commenters argue that because Korea habitually fails to keep its own agreements, that this will be a highly satisfying teaching point.  As to the latter point, it doesn’t quite manage to persuade me.  The second of two wrongs may put a smile on your face, but it still doesn’t make a right.  This is not to deny that I’m also smiling, because I think Schwab’s people signed a bad deal. [...]

]]> By: captbbq http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85571 captbbq Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:42:48 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85571 No, not cool at all. It was obvious this is out of fear that this will not get the senates approval. However this will not be obvious to the average korean, nor will it be portrayed as such by the Korean media who will spin it as more reasons to hiss and boo the US. Instead Bush should let it be bitch slapped up and down the senate floor and finished off in no uncertain terms just to let em know "how we really feel". Then and only then would it be proper to ask for the renegotiation. ...and admitedly I'd like to see the confused look on everyones faces here when the imperialist devil won't even ratify its own lop-sided treaty. No, not cool at all. It was obvious this is out of fear that this will not get the senates approval. However this will not be obvious to the average korean, nor will it be portrayed as such by the Korean media who will spin it as more reasons to hiss and boo the US.

Instead Bush should let it be bitch slapped up and down the senate floor and finished off in no uncertain terms just to let em know “how we really feel”. Then and only then would it be proper to ask for the renegotiation.

…and admitedly I’d like to see the confused look on everyones faces here when the imperialist devil won’t even ratify its own lop-sided treaty.

]]> By: tambe http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85386 tambe Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:03:48 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85386 When I lived in that miserable little dump, every single Korean I ever dealt with changed a contract several times after it was signed. Every single one. The Koreans can learn to deal with being treated how they treat others. When I lived in that miserable little dump, every single Korean I ever dealt with changed a contract several times after it was signed. Every single one.

The Koreans can learn to deal with being treated how they treat others.

]]> By: globalvillageidiot http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85359 globalvillageidiot Fri, 15 Jun 2007 04:11:46 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85359 "Canada? Er, ‘whatever." Your largest trading partner. Whatever indeed. “Canada? Er, ‘whatever.”

Your largest trading partner. Whatever indeed.

]]> By: The Goat http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85315 The Goat Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:13:58 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85315 What Sperwer said... There is no deal and there will continue to be no deal until both sign off on it (which I don't foresee coming in the near future at all). As for the Canada thing, I can only assume that you are talking about the most publicized softwood lumber dispute...Pricing differences, both sides have points, both sides won some judgments blah blah...not as cut and dry as most make it out to be (I'm Canadian). Other than that, no examples - no point. What Sperwer said…

There is no deal and there will continue to be no deal until both sign off on it (which I don’t foresee coming in the near future at all).

As for the Canada thing, I can only assume that you are talking about the most publicized softwood lumber dispute…Pricing differences, both sides have points, both sides won some judgments blah blah…not as cut and dry as most make it out to be (I’m Canadian).

Other than that, no examples - no point.

]]> By: Richardson http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85286 Richardson Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:19:53 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85286 Canada? Er, ‘whatever.’ Canada? Er, ‘whatever.’

]]> By: SomeguyinKorea http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85262 SomeguyinKorea Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:45:04 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85262 "A deal is a deal. If the U.S. wanted a better deal, should have done it the first time around." Whatever, the US government constantly screws with the Canada-US FTA. At least this time around, they want to pretend like they care by negotiating before changing the rules as it pleases them. “A deal is a deal. If the U.S. wanted a better deal, should have done it the first time around.”

Whatever, the US government constantly screws with the Canada-US FTA. At least this time around, they want to pretend like they care by negotiating before changing the rules as it pleases them.

]]> By: seouldout http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85247 seouldout Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:25:37 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85247 Didn't Korea renege on some of its FTA commitments with Chile after both countries ratified it? Agricultural goods I recall. With the USTR requesting additional negotiations it appears the current incarnation of the FTA won't get through the Senate. Didn’t Korea renege on some of its FTA commitments with Chile after both countries ratified it? Agricultural goods I recall.

With the USTR requesting additional negotiations it appears the current incarnation of the FTA won’t get through the Senate.

]]> By: Sperwer http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85225 Sperwer Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:27:03 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85225 <blockquote>I know where you’re coming from - and agree to some extent - but a deal is a deal, is it not?</blockquote> Yeah, if both sides are playing by the same rules, but Korea never does. Moreover, it ain't a deal until the fat lady sings, and in this case the score hasn't even been signed off, let alone passed to Congress (or the Korean National Assembly, for that matter) for the recital; so there isn't a deal yet, just the respective technicians' and lower-on-the-political-food- chain carnivores' respective recommendations of a deal to their respective superiors. But, hey, I'd be happy to have this go to Congress right now for an up or down vote, because I'm confident it would crash and burn - which would be an even more important message to send to Korea Inc.

I know where you’re coming from - and agree to some extent - but a deal is a deal, is it not?

Yeah, if both sides are playing by the same rules, but Korea never does. Moreover, it ain’t a deal until the fat lady sings, and in this case the score hasn’t even been signed off, let alone passed to Congress (or the Korean National Assembly, for that matter) for the recital; so there isn’t a deal yet, just the respective technicians’ and lower-on-the-political-food- chain carnivores’ respective recommendations of a deal to their respective superiors.

But, hey, I’d be happy to have this go to Congress right now for an up or down vote, because I’m confident it would crash and burn - which would be an even more important message to send to Korea Inc.

]]> By: Ut videam http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85214 Ut videam Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:08:21 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/15/ustr-to-request-renegotiation-of-free-trade-deal/#comment-85214 <blockquote>A deal is a deal.</blockquote><blockquote>... but a deal is a deal, is it not?</blockquote>You mean like the base relocation and command transfer deals? I'm with Sperwer on this one.

A deal is a deal.

… but a deal is a deal, is it not?

You mean like the base relocation and command transfer deals? I’m with Sperwer on this one.

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