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	<title>Comments on: When It Rains, It Gets Messy</title>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/14/when-it-rains-it-gets-messy/#comment-155714</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 06:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all of those arguing whether angry netizens represent the Korean population in general:

From observation, I've found that angry netizens tend to be middle schoolers, going through puberty, reluctant to study, fighting with parents, etc. They unleash their fury on trivial things to vent off all that frustration (no offense to middle schoolers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all of those arguing whether angry netizens represent the Korean population in general:</p>
<p>From observation, I&#8217;ve found that angry netizens tend to be middle schoolers, going through puberty, reluctant to study, fighting with parents, etc. They unleash their fury on trivial things to vent off all that frustration (no offense to middle schoolers).</p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/14/when-it-rains-it-gets-messy/#comment-85439</link>
		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 06:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does get messy when it rains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does get messy when it rains.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Koehler</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/14/when-it-rains-it-gets-messy/#comment-85425</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 06:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bumfromkorea --- I'd get used to those sweeping generalizations.  They tend to get thrown around a lot down here from certain quarters.  I've found Pepto Bismol and a sense of humor helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bumfromkorea &#8212; I&#8217;d get used to those sweeping generalizations.  They tend to get thrown around a lot down here from certain quarters.  I&#8217;ve found Pepto Bismol and a sense of humor helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/14/when-it-rains-it-gets-messy/#comment-85419</link>
		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was known as the honey "wagon".  And they are still quite common, even in fancy neighborhoods, whether old or new, where there still are individual building septic tanks to be sucked out because the topography does not lend itself to the installation of modern sanitary sewers. Our house gets serviced every quarter.


Speaking of modern sanitary sewers, are there ANY in Seoul.  Even in the best neighborhoods the streets on these early summer evenings still are perfumed with the same rank odor drifting up from the sewer grates that my uncles said they smelled on their troop transport five miles out from Incheon in '51.

The only thing remotely as bad are the  heaps of rotting food garbage strewn over the collection points in the streets of Insa-dong, particularly in front of Unhyon Palace, or farther up the same street in Gahoe-dong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was known as the honey &#8220;wagon&#8221;.  And they are still quite common, even in fancy neighborhoods, whether old or new, where there still are individual building septic tanks to be sucked out because the topography does not lend itself to the installation of modern sanitary sewers. Our house gets serviced every quarter.</p>
<p>Speaking of modern sanitary sewers, are there ANY in Seoul.  Even in the best neighborhoods the streets on these early summer evenings still are perfumed with the same rank odor drifting up from the sewer grates that my uncles said they smelled on their troop transport five miles out from Incheon in &#8216;51.</p>
<p>The only thing remotely as bad are the  heaps of rotting food garbage strewn over the collection points in the streets of Insa-dong, particularly in front of Unhyon Palace, or farther up the same street in Gahoe-dong.</p>
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		<title>By: bumfromkorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/14/when-it-rains-it-gets-messy/#comment-85416</link>
		<dc:creator>bumfromkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#59

Indeed, though the sweeping generalizations included in your statements undermines your credibility in my eyes.</description>
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<p>Indeed, though the sweeping generalizations included in your statements undermines your credibility in my eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/14/when-it-rains-it-gets-messy/#comment-85389</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;. . . We have at least 3 bands who share the name “Rain”. How many more Rain’s are out there? Is are pseudo-Beatles now going sue all of them too?&lt;/blockquote&gt;As "Netizen Kim" writes, this is the crazy idea that struck me originally about all of this fuss.  The whole story is not about crazy Korean fans but about just how crazy this whole affair has become and the humour of an absurd situation where some poor guys in Kansas have to defend themselves against some fans who think that the Kansas band are the cover-band that makes a money, playing the music of a genuine, creative group. 

It is such a theatre of the absurd!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>. . . We have at least 3 bands who share the name “Rain”. How many more Rain’s are out there? Is are pseudo-Beatles now going sue all of them too?</p></blockquote>
<p>As &#8220;Netizen Kim&#8221; writes, this is the crazy idea that struck me originally about all of this fuss.  The whole story is not about crazy Korean fans but about just how crazy this whole affair has become and the humour of an absurd situation where some poor guys in Kansas have to defend themselves against some fans who think that the Kansas band are the cover-band that makes a money, playing the music of a genuine, creative group. </p>
<p>It is such a theatre of the absurd!</p>
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		<title>By: dogbertt</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogbertt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“Hello. My friends also wanted me to say hi. Now if you could stop generalizing “my kind”, that would be just super.”

Nice way of using humor to put a point across. Hats of to you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The sarcasm in the answer though tends to undermine the point he wanted to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Hello. My friends also wanted me to say hi. Now if you could stop generalizing “my kind”, that would be just super.”</p>
<p>Nice way of using humor to put a point across. Hats of to you.</p></blockquote>
<p>The sarcasm in the answer though tends to undermine the point he wanted to make.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Hello. My friends also wanted me to say hi. Now if you could stop generalizing “my kind”, that would be just super."

Nice way of using humor to put a point across.  Hats of to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hello. My friends also wanted me to say hi. Now if you could stop generalizing “my kind”, that would be just super.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nice way of using humor to put a point across.  Hats of to you.</p>
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		<title>By: globalvillageidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/14/when-it-rains-it-gets-messy/#comment-85208</link>
		<dc:creator>globalvillageidiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Honey truck?"

They're blue with a big tank on the back.  And, as slim mentioned, you know when they're coming.  You won't see them in newer neighborhoods, but go to a factory zone on Incheon or Bucheon...

"Evidence clearly shows that Korea’s male version of Britney Spears invokes equal and opposite passions from grown, married white male expats going through mid-life crises."

My friends and I were just as brutal - if not more - in our assessment of New Kids on the Block and N'Sync years ago.  Actually, most married white males I know here have A) never heard of 비 OR B) couldn't give a fiddler's fart about him.  As for people back home, nobody knows or cares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Honey truck?&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;re blue with a big tank on the back.  And, as slim mentioned, you know when they&#8217;re coming.  You won&#8217;t see them in newer neighborhoods, but go to a factory zone on Incheon or Bucheon&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Evidence clearly shows that Korea’s male version of Britney Spears invokes equal and opposite passions from grown, married white male expats going through mid-life crises.&#8221;</p>
<p>My friends and I were just as brutal - if not more - in our assessment of New Kids on the Block and N&#8217;Sync years ago.  Actually, most married white males I know here have A) never heard of 비 OR B) couldn&#8217;t give a fiddler&#8217;s fart about him.  As for people back home, nobody knows or cares.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
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		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe a "honey truck" describes vehicles that used to suck out the latrines in the days before universal sewerage or flush toilets. Dunno about Korea, but rural Japan still had some in the early 1980s and you always knew when they were coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe a &#8220;honey truck&#8221; describes vehicles that used to suck out the latrines in the days before universal sewerage or flush toilets. Dunno about Korea, but rural Japan still had some in the early 1980s and you always knew when they were coming.</p>
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