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		<title>By: peninsular aborigine</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/09/marmot%e2%80%99s-open-thread-10/#comment-84486</link>
		<dc:creator>peninsular aborigine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 00:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#97, I'm really thinking you're clueless about this one. When I was a kid gay banter was verboten, but for the last twenty, twenty-five years it's been quite common. Maybe our macho is that we do the gay banter but not in front of chicks? (thinking aloud)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#97, I&#8217;m really thinking you&#8217;re clueless about this one. When I was a kid gay banter was verboten, but for the last twenty, twenty-five years it&#8217;s been quite common. Maybe our macho is that we do the gay banter but not in front of chicks? (thinking aloud)</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/09/marmot%e2%80%99s-open-thread-10/#comment-84476</link>
		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>income disparity has always been an issue in Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>income disparity has always been an issue in Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: Iceberg</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/09/marmot%e2%80%99s-open-thread-10/#comment-84452</link>
		<dc:creator>Iceberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Korea will wind up where Mexico is at right now.&lt;/i&gt;

That would be great.  It'd make it much simpler to go home to visit family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Korea will wind up where Mexico is at right now.</i></p>
<p>That would be great.  It&#8217;d make it much simpler to go home to visit family.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/09/marmot%e2%80%99s-open-thread-10/#comment-84448</link>
		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>robert neff,

If they had enough money, would they eat "onion salad"?  I guess there are some who enjoys freebies but then there are some who do it because they do not have enough money to fill their stomach with the regular menu item.  Poverty!  What else?

Most Koreans are mortgaged up to their neck.  If the foreign investments start leaving Korea as it happened in Japan in 1980s, the stock market and the house price will go into unending spiral down.

Korea will wind up where Mexico is at right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>robert neff,</p>
<p>If they had enough money, would they eat &#8220;onion salad&#8221;?  I guess there are some who enjoys freebies but then there are some who do it because they do not have enough money to fill their stomach with the regular menu item.  Poverty!  What else?</p>
<p>Most Koreans are mortgaged up to their neck.  If the foreign investments start leaving Korea as it happened in Japan in 1980s, the stock market and the house price will go into unending spiral down.</p>
<p>Korea will wind up where Mexico is at right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/06/09/marmot%e2%80%99s-open-thread-10/#comment-84414</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"Re: Sperwer and Carr–The less encouragement, the better."&lt;/i&gt;

I'm actually encouraged to see such homoerotic banter.  I always thought men were too homophobic to (pardon the pun) insert themselves into gay guy jokes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Re: Sperwer and Carr–The less encouragement, the better.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually encouraged to see such homoerotic banter.  I always thought men were too homophobic to (pardon the pun) insert themselves into gay guy jokes.</p>
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		<title>By: gbnhj</title>
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		<dc:creator>gbnhj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>michael,

Thanks for the link. My favorite part was the comment from the resort manager:

&lt;i&gt;"This area is for reunification and for natural beauty," Yoo said. "If you get rid of the political things from your mind, then you can appreciate all these good things."&lt;/i&gt;

Yes - just get rid of those pesky 'political things', and everything will be good again. Oh, and by the way, please don't forget to leave the USD300 per visitor with the front desk as you leave.

And, on that other topic:  I wonder if there's a connection between the checking out of the foreigners' carts at Costco and the checking out of the foreigners' 'packages' at the public baths and restrooms?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>michael,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link. My favorite part was the comment from the resort manager:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;This area is for reunification and for natural beauty,&#8221; Yoo said. &#8220;If you get rid of the political things from your mind, then you can appreciate all these good things.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Yes - just get rid of those pesky &#8216;political things&#8217;, and everything will be good again. Oh, and by the way, please don&#8217;t forget to leave the USD300 per visitor with the front desk as you leave.</p>
<p>And, on that other topic:  I wonder if there&#8217;s a connection between the checking out of the foreigners&#8217; carts at Costco and the checking out of the foreigners&#8217; &#8216;packages&#8217; at the public baths and restrooms?</p>
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		<title>By: robert neff</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert neff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baduk - surely the #84 post was a joke....sarcastic and very witty...at least I am hoping it was a joke, otherwise you are really out of touch with Korea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baduk - surely the #84 post was a joke&#8230;.sarcastic and very witty&#8230;at least I am hoping it was a joke, otherwise you are really out of touch with Korea</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 05:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Incidentally, Sangbong used to (and perhaps still does) have the most expensive item I've ever seen on display at a Costco anywhere: a Rolex Daytona for KW25,000,000." 

Funny--North Korea has a similar deal going: "The resort (Mount Keumgang) is expanding its duty-free stores, offering such items as an $18,600 (€13,900) Rolex watch — worth nearly 27 years salary for a North Korean worker."

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/12/asia/AS-FEA-GEN-NKorea-Peeling-the-Veil.php?page=2

Don't think they get the Onion Feast there, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Incidentally, Sangbong used to (and perhaps still does) have the most expensive item I&#8217;ve ever seen on display at a Costco anywhere: a Rolex Daytona for KW25,000,000.&#8221; </p>
<p>Funny&#8211;North Korea has a similar deal going: &#8220;The resort (Mount Keumgang) is expanding its duty-free stores, offering such items as an $18,600 (€13,900) Rolex watch — worth nearly 27 years salary for a North Korean worker.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/12/asia/AS-FEA-GEN-NKorea-Peeling-the-Veil.php?page=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.iht.com/articles/ap.....php?page=2</a></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think they get the Onion Feast there, though.</p>
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		<title>By: gbnhj</title>
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		<dc:creator>gbnhj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 04:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'Costco' and 'Korea as an impoverished nation' - somehow I'm having trouble putting those together. I don't know - maybe it's the membership fees, or the plentitude of luxury- and leisure-lifestyle products on offer, or the many Korean customers' carts filled to the brim with those products.

Incidentally, Sangbong used to (and perhaps still does) have the most expensive item I've ever seen on display at a Costco anywhere: a Rolex Daytona for KW25,000,000. Now, why Costco would think that customers would buy this watch from them instead of an AD when price is similar is a puzzler. However, when Costco puts an item like that on offer to its general customers, I think we can pretty much give up the notion that its customers act the way they do because they're too poor to afford an onion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Costco&#8217; and &#8216;Korea as an impoverished nation&#8217; - somehow I&#8217;m having trouble putting those together. I don&#8217;t know - maybe it&#8217;s the membership fees, or the plentitude of luxury- and leisure-lifestyle products on offer, or the many Korean customers&#8217; carts filled to the brim with those products.</p>
<p>Incidentally, Sangbong used to (and perhaps still does) have the most expensive item I&#8217;ve ever seen on display at a Costco anywhere: a Rolex Daytona for KW25,000,000. Now, why Costco would think that customers would buy this watch from them instead of an AD when price is similar is a puzzler. However, when Costco puts an item like that on offer to its general customers, I think we can pretty much give up the notion that its customers act the way they do because they&#8217;re too poor to afford an onion.</p>
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		<title>By: Wedge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 04:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW--I heard AMCHAM won't be giving out gifts at the Labor Day picnic this year. Last year, it was supposed to be one gift bag per family, but that got ugly in a hurry. One expat biz type said he had to drop his bag and run for the bus, kind of like a bank robber tossing bills in the air to get away from the cops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW&#8211;I heard AMCHAM won&#8217;t be giving out gifts at the Labor Day picnic this year. Last year, it was supposed to be one gift bag per family, but that got ugly in a hurry. One expat biz type said he had to drop his bag and run for the bus, kind of like a bank robber tossing bills in the air to get away from the cops.</p>
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