Marmot’s Open Thread #9

Have your say.

82 Comments

  1. Posted June 2, 2007 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Open thread…okay!

    I need an under-photographed yet visually interesting location in Seoul. I wanna update my flick page.

    Any recommendations?

  2. R. Elgin your flag
    Posted June 2, 2007 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    Willie, how about just going to a neighborhood and taking a walk through the back streets and alleys, away from the blatant commercial crap? I do not know what you want to photograph but, sometimes, I love doing this because I find the neatest little things in the strangest places.

    This is why the strange combination of visual elements in Seoul reminds me of a dream I had or may have one day. Very odd sometimes.

  3. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted June 2, 2007 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    I second Elgin’s suggestion…plus, you will probably end up finding amazing restaurant (the best ones are never along the main roads, in my experience).

  4. Creo your flag
    Posted June 2, 2007 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Take a bus ride out into the country and hop off and walk around in a small town. I have biked across Korea two times (once around Jeju) and there is nothing that compares to just wondering around a little mountain village or a small town off the main road for pictures. Head east as it takes a long time to get out of the burbs on the west coast.

  5. Creo your flag
    Posted June 2, 2007 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    sorry…wandering…that is what happens when I don’t use spell check.

  6. hardyandtiny your flag
    Posted June 2, 2007 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    Fifty students from 50 different countries sat in a sauna together at the International University of Japan in Saitama. This is believed to be a world record for communal steam-bathing.

  7. hardyandtiny your flag
    Posted June 2, 2007 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    source…
    http://metropolis.co.jp/tokyo/.....lprint.asp

  8. Posted June 3, 2007 at 1:08 am | Permalink

    The biggest news this week is the bullish stock market. Korean stock market, along with South American, Asian and European market, is going blockbuster, not to mention the Chinese stock market.

    If you have some money to put aside, park it in KOSPI this month, you may gain 5 to 10%.

    –Stock market carries significant risk of losing money, blah, blah (the usual disclaimer)–

  9. Posted June 3, 2007 at 1:13 am | Permalink

    If you have to work through international stock market, Korea’s ETF is EWY. You can also buy SouthAmerican(ILF), Emerging market(EEM), China(FXI), Germany(EWG), Australia(EWA), etc.

    These national indices can be bought as if they were individual stocks. You can also short them as well.

  10. wjk your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 3:56 am | Permalink

    4 charged in JFK Airport terror plot

    By ADAM GOLDMAN, Associated Press Writer 13 minutes ago

    Three people were arrested and another was being sought Saturday for allegedly plotting to blow up a fuel line that feeds John F. Kennedy International Airport and runs through residential neighborhoods, authorities said.

    The plot never got past the planning stages. It posed no threat to air safety or the public, the FBI said Saturday.

    At a news conference, U.S. Attorney Roslynn R. Mauskopf called it “one of the most chilling plots imaginable.”

    “The devastation that would be caused had this plot succeeded is just unthinkable,” she said.

    Authorities arrested Russell Defreitas, a U.S. citizen native to Guyana and former JFK employee. He was in custody in Brooklyn and was expected to be arraigned Saturday afternoon.

    Two other men, Abdul Kadir of Guyana and Kareem Ibrahim of Trinidad, are in custody in Trinidad. A fourth man, Abdel Nur of Guyana, was still being sought.

    All four have been charged with conspiring to attack the airport, one of the nation’s busiest, by blowing up major fuel supply tanks and the pipeline, according to the indictment.

    yet another great job by the Bush Administration.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....oe5_ZH2ocA

    You really want a President who will change how terror is prevented in America by going easy on these people?

    Wire tap, knock down doors, go thru bank accounts, invade their privacy, they DESERVE it.

    They don’t mind killing you, and you did nothing to them.

  11. Posted June 3, 2007 at 5:36 am | Permalink

    wjk, good article.

    All middle eastern names. You don’t think these people are terrorists? ^^

    For Democrates, these are just misled people working toward bettering their economic condition. To me, these people are under Allah’s command to kill Americans, any and all Americans, to get to their Heaven(seven virgins for every one of martyrs).

    The US forces should stay in Iraq and re-educate Iraqis. Does it mean challenging their religion? YES. and YES. If their stinking religion tells them to kill Americans, why not? Why not destroy their mosques and replace them with Christian churches? Why not?

    If an African nation comes over and kill Americans because their religion of Big EAGLE tells them to, why not destroy their symbol of BIG EAGLE and set up a church on the same spot?

    Why not?

  12. Posted June 3, 2007 at 5:41 am | Permalink

    Is it a crusade? You are darn right it is.

    Bush and Christians(including KA Christians) are in Iraq to re-educate Iraqis and destroy their stupid and dangerous religion.

    Bush is a great president. I believe he is following God’s command.

  13. globalvillageidiot your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 7:41 am | Permalink

    “Is it a crusade? You are darn right it is.

    Bush and Christians(including KA Christians) are in Iraq to re-educate Iraqis and destroy their stupid and dangerous religion.”

    If this is a Crusade (hope this one goes better than the last batch, don’t you?) why didn’t God tell President Bush to to go after fundamentalist Sunnis in Saudi Arabia or fundamentalist Shiites in Iran first, instead of a more secular Iraq, where Christians used to be able to worship (until somebody started a war there, that is)? Ooops, I forgot that one shouldn’t questions His wisdom in these things. My bad.

    “Bush is a great president. I believe he is following God’s command.”

    Let me be generous and say it’s too early to give his presidency a complete rating at this point in time. As for Bush following God’s command, a lot of people have been worrying that he thinks so too. He wouldn’t be the first. (Woodrow Wilson comes to mind.) But that hardly makes me sleep better at night.

  14. Posted June 3, 2007 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    Your answer tells why.

    If the US destroys Sunnis or Shiites, then the other faction will unite the Islam. You don’t want that. If that happens, it is as bad as SouthAmericans all uniting to fight back Europeans and Americans.

    The Islam has to be split, as the Sunnis and the Shiites. And, they have to fight each other. This was the reason the desert storm did not go after Hussein, but let him live.

    Iraq was an ideal place to start this campaign. And, Hussein was the most anti-American leader at the time, even surpassing Khomeini.

    Bush made the right decision. It was much better than going after Saudi(who is our friend, supplying oils and all) and the stronger Iran. Iraq serves as the foothold to go after Iran as well if the country keeps working on nuclear bombs.

    Bush is a great president with strong leadership. When by chance Obama becomes the president and pulls troops out of Iraq and Afganistan and cuts manpower from Homeland security, you should stay awake at nights. Your home could be blown up by international terrorists at any moment.

    You must appreciate Bush.

    When the US suffers another terrifying attack by MiddleEast terrorists, you wouldn’t want Obama, Hillary,or even Bush, you would want someone like Hitler to be in charge. Organizing every youth to fight against foreign foes and background-checking all citizens and sending all ArabAmericans to concentration camps.

    Bush is the right choice. And, if the democrates are running on “Retreat from Iraq” ticket, then I want a republican president like McCain to carry on Bush’s policies. Jeff Bush will even be better.

    I believe God speaks through Bush family at this time.

  15. Posted June 3, 2007 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    When these democrates stop playing politics and back the president as they should, then Iraq in five to ten years will reborn as the true democratic nation in the MiddleEast.

    Other countries in the region will follow. Education, economics, living conditions, political process and religion will all improve, finally bring Islam people into 21st century.

    And, as the US shows strong resolve, these insurgents will realize that they are fighting the losing battle and slowly give up the fight. If that does not happen, the US can really play the victor and kick everyone out of Bhagdad and rebuild the city based on American settlement. Letting only the US citizens and “certified” Iraqi nationals into the city.

    A sort of “Green zone” maximized. Since Bhagdad is isolated from other cities by long stretch of deserts, this option is always possible.

    This option is a cruel one and one does not want to use it. However, if the US casualties reach unbearable level, this option should be considered.

  16. elvislovechild your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Baduk,
    Your incredible insight into Islam and geopolitics never fails to amaze me. Even the mind of God is as an open book to you!
    Forget “Jeff” Bush- let’s amend that pesky Constitution (or just toss it since it’s just a damn piece of paper) to create a Baduk/Arnold dream ticket in 2008!

  17. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    “Wire tap, knock down doors, go thru bank accounts, invade their privacy, they DESERVE it.”

    Either way, it doesn’t change the fact that the US government’s Echelon system is also being used for what some would describe as being sinister purposes, such as industrial spying and spying on friendly nations.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

  18. hardyandtiny your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    Put my air conditioner on today.

  19. BK your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    ‘With Korea as Model, US Ponders Long Role in Iraq’

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06.....ss.html?hp

  20. elvislovechild your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    “Wire tap, knock down doors, go thru bank accounts, invade their privacy, they DESERVE it.”

    Do you deserve it, wjk? Does your mom? Grandma? It’s irrefutable that this is being done to everyone. Various gov’t agencies (not only American) and contractors like Choicepoint are datamining the entire population.

    Seems to me you buy into the “they hate our freedom, so to protect our freedom, we have to give up our freedom” bit of neo con insanity.

    It might be a good idea to see how this latest terrorist “plot” plays out, since we all know the English “liquid bomb” plot was a hoax, the Florida “Sears Tower bomb” plot was a hoax, and Tom Ridge himself admitted the Bush admin. used bogus terror alerts to manipulate public opinion.

    Catapult that propaganda, as Bush said.

  21. Posted June 3, 2007 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    Willie, how about just going to a neighborhood and taking a walk through the back streets and alleys, away from the blatant commercial crap? I do not know what you want to photograph but, sometimes, I love doing this because I find the neatest little things in the strangest places.

    I just want to grab whatever I find interesting. And that may be interesting for the folks back home.

    I do that fairly often. I love the backstreets of this city. But I think I’ve mined out my area of Seoul. But I guess hopping on a random bus and seeing what’s at the end of it may be a plan.

  22. Ut videam your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    The Korean Wave (or one aspect thereof) made the AP wire and the Drudge Report today:

    http://apnews.myway.com/articl.....UUQO1.html

  23. wjk your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    Seems to me you buy into the “they hate our freedom, so to protect our freedom, we have to give up our freedom” bit of neo con insanity.

    it’s much more serious than that. They hate our “lives”, so to protect our “lives”, we have to give up our freedom

    I don’t mind superbank A, automatically figuring out what I’m doing at superbank B. I think that’s about the only thing I’ve noticed.

    I actually feel safer.

  24. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    “It might be a good idea to see how this latest terrorist “plot” plays out, since we all know the English “liquid bomb” plot was a hoax, the Florida “Sears Tower bomb” plot was a hoax, and Tom Ridge himself admitted the Bush admin. used bogus terror alerts to manipulate public opinion.”

    Oh, yeah. I had forgotten about the orange, amber and hot pink (whatever) alerts, which were so blatantly manipulative.

    “Put my air conditioner on today.”

    Not yet. I’ve got to get it filled up every spring at 70 000 won a pop. There’s a slow leak that the repairman can’t seem to find.

  25. R. Elgin your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    . . . There’s a slow leak that the repairman can’t seem to find.

    Ummm, maybe in your wallet, perhaps? :o)

  26. elvislovechild your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    “it’s much more serious than that. They hate our “lives”, so to protect our “lives”, we have to give up our freedom”

    I was going to say something about dying on your feet, but it’s just so futile.

  27. iheartblueballs your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    When the US suffers another terrifying attack by MiddleEast terrorists, you wouldn’t want Obama, Hillary,or even Bush, you would want someone like Hitler to be in charge.

    Let me be the first to say that America needs more Hitler-loving immigrants like baduk if we are ever to fulfill our destiny of replicating Germany’s astounding success of the 1940s.

    Go now baduk, and start construction on the first ovens. It brings a tear to my eye just thinking about how fine Korean-Americans such as yourself have integrated so well into American society and developed the true American spirit, which is consistent with desiring Nazi leadership and burning a whole fuckload of Arabs in concentration camps.

    Not being a fan of Hitler myself, I was at first skeptical of baduk’s vision. But then he told me it was God’s plan as told directly through “Jeff” Bush. And then I was sold.

  28. pawikirogi your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    ‘korens always want to be number one.’ oft said comment here.

    yeah, so? you mean it’s wrong to be number one and then be proud of it? the desire to be number one moved korea out of the slow lane. nothing wrong with wanting to number one.

  29. gbnhj your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    . . . There’s a slow leak that the repairman can’t seem to find.

    Ummm, maybe in your wallet, perhaps? :o)

    LOL I think you’re on to something, R. Elgin. But I think the repairman may have found that one, and thinks that it’s leaking just fine.

  30. wjk your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    blueballs, baduk’s using extreme language to get a point across.

    Baduk is a model Korean American that everyone should look upto.

    He loves Korea and America.

    He served proudly with the US armed forces.

    What did you do, blue balls?

  31. wjk your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    Airport videotaped

    The alleged plot was brought to light when Mr Defreitas recruited an FBI informant to help him in the plan, officials said.

    “Any time you hit Kennedy, it is the most hurtful thing to the United States,” Mr Defreitas said, according to a recording played to reporters.

    “To hit John F Kennedy, wow… they love John F Kennedy like he’s the man… if you hit that, this whole country will be in mourning. You can kill the man twice.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6715985.stm

    Yup, another bogus cook up by Bush and co.

    Tell me, if Bush is just cooking up these terror scares, wouldn’t it make sense for certain Democrat controlled mega cities to show some difference or resistance with implementing the alerts, charging that it’s bogus and political and election year related?

    All you who charge that Bush is cooking should be ashamed of yourselves.

    You’re the kind that says there should be no speed limit on the highways.

    Bush has done an outstanding job and the feds should hang these kind of people after charging them with treason and spying against “their own country”.

  32. Posted June 3, 2007 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    Ah, it is good to see Korean immigrants praise America’s omnipotent leader, proving their loyalty with Iraqi blood. In the wars the leader, GWB, “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”

  33. globalvillageidiot your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    “blueballs, baduk’s using extreme language to get a point across.”

    The points are pretty extreme too, aren’t they? The language only adds to the weirdness.

  34. wjk your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    stfu shaku, you’ll probably spy against the austrialian govt for the Japanese.

  35. wjk your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    everything I say is based on what I believe is right. You’re just on the look out on what’s wrong with Koreans. Therefore, you’re an inferior human being.

  36. wookinponub your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    How depressing.Another one of those threads.I’m happy there are a few others that don’t trust the current regime.

  37. Ut videam your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    “it’s much more serious than that. They hate our “lives”, so to protect our “lives”, we have to give up our freedom”

    I was going to say something about dying on your feet, but it’s just so futile.

    Benjamin Franklin’s sounding more and more like a prophet these days: “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

  38. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    ” . . . There’s a slow leak that the repairman can’t seem to find.

    Ummm, maybe in your wallet, perhaps? :o)”

    Isn’t it always?

    Trust me when I say my original sentence, the one I chose to edit, was much more sarcastic about their inability to find the problem.

  39. elvislovechild your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    Oh God, Buddha, Shiva, Jesus, Allah, Ba’al, “Bob”, Flying Spaghetti Monster and greek and roman pantheons, please let Ron Paul be elected president and not be whacked by a “lone nut”.

    A tall order, I know.

    While you guys are at it, would you mind granting our proudly ignorant brothers, wjk and Baduk, a modicum of common sense and a grain of compassion?

    Thanks in advance.

  40. elvislovechild your flag
    Posted June 3, 2007 at 10:54 pm | Permalink

    Benjamin Franklin’s sounding more and more like a prophet these days: “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

    Amen to that.

  41. soondae your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 2:00 am | Permalink

    The_William_G

    “I need an under-photographed yet visually interesting location in Seoul. I wanna update my flick page.

    Any recommendations?”

    How about the area around Kupabal?

  42. Ledtim your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 2:28 am | Permalink

    @22

    I love this picture.
    http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/a.....140640.jpg

    I can just imagine the girl in the front yelling, “Woo, break it down!”

  43. robert neff your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 2:38 am | Permalink

    I am shameless as always…but here are ten pictures of the Good Morning B-Boy Musical that you might like to see….

    http://english.ohmynews.com/ar.....p;rel_no=1

  44. wjk your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 5:01 am | Permalink

    elvislovechild,

    I think you are incredibly short sighted.

    I know there are those who romantically verse the Constitution as some sort of inflexible reference, but it has never been so absolutely inflexible, especially in WAR TIME.

    Did you realize this is WAR TIME?

    Did you forget that George W. Bush is a WAR TIME president?

    Yes, let’s do some recall of past war time Presidents.

    Was it okay for US colonists to send money to Britain during the Revolutionary war, without defying the colonial govt and those who wrote the constitution?

    Was it okay for people to send money to the Confed govt during the Civil War, say from New York to Georgia, without breaking laws?

    Did you think people wired money and shipped weapons to Germany during WW1 and WW2?

    How about sending mail and money to Japan during WW2?

    Did any US citizen travel to Beijing during the Korean War, barring the possiblity that they were official diplomats?

    Hanoi Jane Fonda’s visit to North Vietnam, was that legal? Or was it an act of blatant treason, forgiven and forgotten because it was a populist move?

    Would you say that sending mail, wiring money, making phone calls, traveling to an enemy state would be a freedom?

    I would you say that a restriction of that sort of freedom has always been present, especially during…WAR TIME.

    How was your visit to the Soviet Union or Cuba during 1980?

    What? There was no way to go there?

    I guess the Cold War was in effect.

    Bush is doing nothing out of the ordinary from tradition and the Constitution.

    In fact, you can do whatever you want, as much as reasonably possible.

    You can travel to Pakistan, marry a Pakistan native, send money to Pakistan, go visit Afghanistan and do whatever you want.

    The only caveat is, you’ll be wire tapped, you’ll be under surveilance, your bride will have to wait more than a year to enter the US, and they’ll be watching how you spend money, what you do with identified terror groups, etc.

    Only, and only if they have proof that you did something really really fucked up to screw over your own country, the US, FBI comes in the middle of the night.

    Got it?

    It’s fair.

    Nothing different from the old.

    Did some people call the US a fascist state during the Cold War?

    I think it was better than the Soviet Union. Even way more fascist.

  45. jdog2050 your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    AL QAEDA DOES NOT EXIST–

    http://www.torrentspy.com/torr.....Nightmares

  46. michael your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    LOL Koreans discover break dancing…. It’s about 25 years old for feck’s sake! Next up, that exciting dance craze the Jitterbug!

  47. dogbertt your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    Fila Korea pulls Paris Hilton ads:

    http://de.news.yahoo.com/01062.....ilton.html

  48. wookinponub your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Did I miss something? I thought the action in Iraq hasn’t been a ‘declared’ war, and thus the need for some ’special powers’.

  49. michael your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    “Fila Korea pulls Paris Hilton ads”

    Ich dachte Koreaner gemochte nude weiße Mädchen

  50. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    B-girls in lingerie and short short skirts is so early 90’s. Let me guess, Homey D. Clown is set to make an appearance (actually, I’d be willing to see the show if that ever happened).

  51. crazyasian your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    michael, get a clue. b-boy competitions are extremely popular in the uk, continental europe and japan…there are even some american competitors and they were not teens during the 80s.

  52. michael your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    I had a clue already in the 1980s when I went to Radio in downtown L.A. when break dancing just started–it was a novelty then and really tiresome now.

    Anyway, saw this story on Tsukiji fish market in Japan, not too well written but long, with a lot of info (for example, I didn’t know Rev. Moon was in the fish distribution business).

    http://www.vanityfair.com/cult.....ntPage=all

  53. bumfromkorea your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone like Lee Juck’s music, or am I like, the only fan in this whole wide world? (Everyone I know hates him… :-()

  54. seoulmilk your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    going to law school this fall. any advice?

  55. bumfromkorea your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Don’t go to law school (Oh snap!). Sorry… The opportunity was just too perfect. (hey, who am I to talk… I’m going to med school ^^; )

  56. seoulmilk your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    haha…actually, everyone (lawyers) have all told me not to go. most seem unhappy in their profession. brendon? any advice?

  57. dogbertt your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    going to law school this fall. any advice?

    Yes. Go to a first-tier one.

  58. seoulmilk your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    unfortunately, i didn’t get into a first-tier. second-tier. so most lawyers have told me i will have a hard time finding a job, and will be stuck in a big debt for a long time. great!

  59. gbnhj your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    Michael,

    Years ago, in what seems now like another life, I used to deal with Happy World and Ocean World. Both were fine customers - no problems at all to relate.

    Incidentally, if you’re wondering about Moon’s connection to the fishing industry, I can tell you that fishing, and businesses connected with that industry, remain very cash-oriented - much more so than many other types of business. The product is sometimes hard to find, can be difficult to harvest, and ages rapidly - all elements which breed a ‘cash is king’ business environment.

    Now bring in the church, with all its donations. Coincidence? No answer to that, of course, but anyway, that’s what we always figured.

  60. michael your flag
    Posted June 4, 2007 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Hey gbnhj, that’s interesting to hear.

    That totally makes sense about the Moonies going for the fish business….

  61. Posted June 4, 2007 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Seoulmilk:

    Don’t; but if you must, keep your mind firmly fixed on how you can use your legal education to leverage yourself into a more interesting and rewarding line of work.

  62. Netizen Kim your flag
    Posted June 5, 2007 at 4:05 am | Permalink

    LOL Koreans discover break dancing…. It’s about 25 years old for feck’s sake! Next up, that exciting dance craze the Jitterbug!

    You’re just jealous because the only thing more ridiculous than Koreans doing stuff that black people invented is White people doing stuff that black people invented….

  63. Netizen Kim your flag
    Posted June 5, 2007 at 4:24 am | Permalink

    Incidentally, if you’re wondering about Moon’s connection to the fishing industry, I can tell you that fishing, and businesses connected with that industry, remain very cash-oriented - much more so than many other types of business. The product is sometimes hard to find, can be difficult to harvest, and ages rapidly - all elements which breed a ‘cash is king’ business environment.

    There’s something fishy about Moonie.

  64. Netizen Kim your flag
    Posted June 5, 2007 at 4:32 am | Permalink

    haha…actually, everyone (lawyers) have all told me not to go. most seem unhappy in their profession. brendon? any advice?

    oh great. just what the world needs, another highly-trained professional liar.

  65. wjk your flag
    Posted June 5, 2007 at 5:05 am | Permalink

    i’m not sure how law school works, but I know of someone who went to a non 1st tier law school, and passed the bar on his first try, and another who went to an ivy league one and passed on her 2nd try.

    both were California bars.

  66. Posted June 5, 2007 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    While in law school, sign up for a JAG opportunity in Navy. You will be set for life. And, Navy will pay for your tuition and give you $1500/mo to live on.

    Go Navy!

  67. michael your flag
    Posted June 5, 2007 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    “You’re just jealous” whines Nutizen….

    No, I insist it is far more entertaining to watch Koreans pretend to be African Americans in a society that has no African-American culture to speak of.

  68. McGenghis your flag
    Posted June 5, 2007 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    What are some good books about Korean Buddhism?

  69. seoulmilk your flag
    Posted June 5, 2007 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    what in the wide, wide world of sports is going on?

    http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070604......html?.v=5

  70. michael your flag
    Posted June 5, 2007 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    Who says Kansas has no cultcha: “1,683 guitarists play ‘Smoke on Water’”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....ter_record

  71. Posted June 5, 2007 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    Regarding #69, a little careful reading will reveal:

    the survey consisted of 19 separate categories. Hyundai had the top car in 5 of those categories. 5 was the highest number of category leaders of any car company. Kudos, yes.

    But overall, Hyundai corp was behind VW, Honda, Toyota and GM corp’s, and, among brand names, BMW, Infiniti, Benz, Mini and Jaguar were the top 5.

    Thus, the headline “Hyundai grabs lead in auto quality study” is inaccurate. Also, it’s more of a ‘customer satisfaction’ study than a ‘quality’ study, since the survey was of consumers, not engineers or professionals.

    http://www.strategicvision.com.....elease.pdf

  72. Posted June 5, 2007 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    McGhengis:

    If you have time to read one book about Korean Buddhism, it should be Robert Buswell’s “The Zen Monastic Experience: Buddhist Practice in Contemporary Korea” (Princeton 1992). Notwithstanding the title, it has more than a fair bit of historical background, as well.

  73. Posted June 5, 2007 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    > McGenghis
    > What are some good books about Korean Buddhism?

    Sperwer’s recommendation is good. Also, a very good overview of the development is provided in _Korea: a Religious History_ by Professor James Grayson of England; i use that in some of my classes. For temples, masters and stories, _Empty House_ by Chris Verebes rocks…

  74. hardyandtiny your flag
    Posted June 5, 2007 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Where are the yellow dust storms?

  75. Creo your flag
    Posted June 6, 2007 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    Something tells me this won’t be quite the news the “Aussie” was amongst Koreans.

    From the Korea Times

    06-05-2007 17:24
    Teenage Girl Forced to Sell Sex

    By Kim Rahn
    Staff Reporter

    The police Monday caught three people who imprisoned a 14-year-old girl in a motel for six months and forced her to prostitute herself with more than 800 men.

    The three people, including a 20-year-old woman and her boyfriend, 20, confined the middle schoolgirl, who had run away from home, in a motel in Gwangju from last November. They forced her to have sex with 800 men they encountered through Internet chatting over six months until May 22, according to the police.

    The girl had to have sex with more than five men a day. The three adults charged each client between 100,000 won and 200,000 won, raking in a total of 120 million won.

    The three people beat her up and burned the back of her hand with cigarettes whenever she begged them to let her go home, according to the police.

    She escaped from the motel to her uncle’s house in Jeonju, North Jeolla Province, and the three people who went there to kidnap her were arrested by the police.

    The police are investigating the 800 men who had sex with the girl, including professors, doctors, pharmacists and college students who were among the alleged clients.

    Some of those men purchased sex from the girl although they were aware that she was confined and beaten up _ two professors had sex with her a dozen times, while a pharmacist who was another “patron” brought ointment and rubbed it over her wounds when having sex, the police said.

    rahnita@koreatimes.co.kr

    I bet English teachers forced all 800 of them to do it!

  76. Creo your flag
    Posted June 6, 2007 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    And how come this stuff never makes the front page? Hmm…

  77. Ut videam your flag
    Posted June 6, 2007 at 12:10 am | Permalink

    Don’t worry, Netizen Kim and/or YoungRocco will find some way to blame this on filthy expats. :)

  78. Creo your flag
    Posted June 6, 2007 at 12:22 am | Permalink

    800 Koreans had sex with this girl and NOT ONE OF THEM called the police! Sick.

  79. Creo your flag
    Posted June 6, 2007 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    I mean to invite them…not help the girl.

  80. Ut videam your flag
    Posted June 6, 2007 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    “Allegations of improper conduct against Korean men in Korea refuse to go away.”

  81. robert neff your flag
    Posted June 6, 2007 at 12:45 am | Permalink

    One must wonder why the police did not arrest the owners of the Love Motel….oops, I mean the Inn. Surely they can’t claim to have been ignorant of the fact that a middle school girl was locked up in one of thier rooms for 6 months. Didn’t they find it at least a little strange that the room had more men going into it daily than the men’s restroom at an “all you can drink” Octoberfest?

    Of course, this will also be blamed not only on the decadent foreigners but also the internet which provided the key for this crime to take place - the true culprits will probably receive a fine - fully aware that they have done wrong as in the case of the teacher molesting (allegedly - but found guilty of) his young female students.

  82. Posted June 6, 2007 at 3:58 am | Permalink

    Yeah, and the Internet is a decadent foreign invention. Look over there! Expats!

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