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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/19/marmots-open-thread-8/#comment-82613</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 21:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"“Chindian” is a mythological creature, like a chimera, which originated in the North American press at about the time when xenophobia (ie the thing that many expats seem to believe is unique to Korea) about US service and manufacturing jobs being offshore outsourced to India and China was at it’s height. "&lt;/i&gt;

"Chindian" is no mythological creature.  Real Chindians exist in Malaysia and Singapore; they are people of mixed Chinese and Indian heritage.  The word "Chindian" carries no negative connotation in that meaning.  There have been mixed Indian-Chinese on the Malayan peninsula far longer than the West has been outsourcing, so the Chinese-Indian person usage probably predates the Western outsourcing usage and the latter may well have borrowed it from the former.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;“Chindian” is a mythological creature, like a chimera, which originated in the North American press at about the time when xenophobia (ie the thing that many expats seem to believe is unique to Korea) about US service and manufacturing jobs being offshore outsourced to India and China was at it’s height. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Chindian&#8221; is no mythological creature.  Real Chindians exist in Malaysia and Singapore; they are people of mixed Chinese and Indian heritage.  The word &#8220;Chindian&#8221; carries no negative connotation in that meaning.  There have been mixed Indian-Chinese on the Malayan peninsula far longer than the West has been outsourcing, so the Chinese-Indian person usage probably predates the Western outsourcing usage and the latter may well have borrowed it from the former.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhesus</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/19/marmots-open-thread-8/#comment-82612</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 20:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...xenophobia...about US service and manufacturing jobs being offshore outsourced to India and China."

앗!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;xenophobia&#8230;about US service and manufacturing jobs being offshore outsourced to India and China.&#8221;</p>
<p>앗!</p>
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		<title>By: Netizen Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/19/marmots-open-thread-8/#comment-82607</link>
		<dc:creator>Netizen Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 20:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Here’s some more head-up-the-ass reporting from the Chosun Ilbo: Korean Students in U.S. Under Threat From ‘Chindians’&lt;/i&gt;

"Chindian" is a mythological creature, like a chimera, which originated in the North American press at about the time when xenophobia (ie the thing that many expats seem to believe is unique to Korea) about US service and manufacturing jobs being offshore outsourced to India and China was at it's height. It is unfortunate that this monstrous and unattractive word has creep its way to the Korean press. I personally would prefer to read more about stupid foreigner tricks of Canadamerican English teachers myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Here’s some more head-up-the-ass reporting from the Chosun Ilbo: Korean Students in U.S. Under Threat From ‘Chindians’</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Chindian&#8221; is a mythological creature, like a chimera, which originated in the North American press at about the time when xenophobia (ie the thing that many expats seem to believe is unique to Korea) about US service and manufacturing jobs being offshore outsourced to India and China was at it&#8217;s height. It is unfortunate that this monstrous and unattractive word has creep its way to the Korean press. I personally would prefer to read more about stupid foreigner tricks of Canadamerican English teachers myself.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 00:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm generally sympathetic to unions but yeah, get rid of the Korean teachers' union and the country will be far better off for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m generally sympathetic to unions but yeah, get rid of the Korean teachers&#8217; union and the country will be far better off for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ut videam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ut videam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 00:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They’re competing for education resources in the U.S. their own country’s gov’t is too incompetent to provide...&lt;/blockquote&gt;Would that it were mere incompetence! Their own country's government (at least in ROK's case) &lt;em&gt;refuses&lt;/em&gt; to provide it because 1) they espouse an utterly ridiculous notion of egalitarianism, and 2) they're in bed with the teachers' union, which makes the NEA and AFT in the US look like Cub Scouts by comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They’re competing for education resources in the U.S. their own country’s gov’t is too incompetent to provide&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Would that it were mere incompetence! Their own country&#8217;s government (at least in ROK&#8217;s case) <em>refuses</em> to provide it because 1) they espouse an utterly ridiculous notion of egalitarianism, and 2) they&#8217;re in bed with the teachers&#8217; union, which makes the NEA and AFT in the US look like Cub Scouts by comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's some more head-up-the-ass reporting from the Chosun Ilbo: Korean Students in U.S. Under Threat From ‘Chindians’

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200705/200705220013.html

How about if the NY Times had a headline that said U.S. Students Under Threat From 'Kapanese" or 'Joreans' and arbitrarily, demeaningly lumped two nationalities together in a headline? 

They're competing for education resources in the U.S. their own country's gov't is too incompetent to provide, and whining is too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some more head-up-the-ass reporting from the Chosun Ilbo: Korean Students in U.S. Under Threat From ‘Chindians’</p>
<p><a href="http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200705/200705220013.html" rel="nofollow">http://english.chosun.com/w21d.....20013.html</a></p>
<p>How about if the NY Times had a headline that said U.S. Students Under Threat From &#8216;Kapanese&#8221; or &#8216;Joreans&#8217; and arbitrarily, demeaningly lumped two nationalities together in a headline? </p>
<p>They&#8217;re competing for education resources in the U.S. their own country&#8217;s gov&#8217;t is too incompetent to provide, and whining is too much.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually I think I heard that 14 day bullet supply story from someone else before.  A Vietnam War Veteran, from the ROK army.

Isn't that irrelevant with war in the peninsula, though?

The North's food supply.  Will that last a month?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually I think I heard that 14 day bullet supply story from someone else before.  A Vietnam War Veteran, from the ROK army.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that irrelevant with war in the peninsula, though?</p>
<p>The North&#8217;s food supply.  Will that last a month?</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baduk, where'd you get the data on bullets lasting 14 days worth only?  Are you saying that was deliberately planned by either Kim Dae Jung or Roh Moo Hyun?

Ok, then explain why Kim Dae Jung brought about an aircraft carrier for the ROK Navy.  He shouldn't do that if his goal was to weaken the ROK so the Norks can gobble it up.  Must be just an elaborate plan to give that aircraft carrier to Kim Jong Il, so he can use it to attack South Korea.

Ok, explain to my why Roh Moo Hyun is responsible for the Aegis fleet and the Jae Ju naval base and the purchase of modified, upgraded F-15s.  I see !  These will eventually end up in North Korea one way or the other, and the Jae Ju location will be eventually used to spread Juche to Japan.

those cunning bastards.

Who's selling the weapons to North Korea?  Let's see..

Is it Russia?  Is it China?  Both should be bombed if true.

I don't think DaeWoo is shipping K type rifles to North Korea.  That, I think I can bet on.

Is North Korea producing all their weapons within their borders? Gosh, they must be really self sufficient.

By the way, what happenned to the luxury import ban that Bush put on after the Dong Dong 1,2,3 were fired towards the East Sea (East Sea, you Japanese people.  East Sea.  Go check old maps of Hamel, maps drawn by Europeans in the 15th, 16th centurys, they all pretty much say Sea of Coree, etc)

?

Was that scrapped with the supposed April deal that the North still hasn't honored?

That, 

would be a shame.

Because all they got out of the deal was the usual South Korean aid that was coming anyway and money that was theirs to begin with in Macao.

By the way, wouldn't it be child's play for the ROK to assasinate Kim Jung Nam in Macao?

Why don't they do it and see what happens, although I understand Kim's eldest is no longer in the range for successor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baduk, where&#8217;d you get the data on bullets lasting 14 days worth only?  Are you saying that was deliberately planned by either Kim Dae Jung or Roh Moo Hyun?</p>
<p>Ok, then explain why Kim Dae Jung brought about an aircraft carrier for the ROK Navy.  He shouldn&#8217;t do that if his goal was to weaken the ROK so the Norks can gobble it up.  Must be just an elaborate plan to give that aircraft carrier to Kim Jong Il, so he can use it to attack South Korea.</p>
<p>Ok, explain to my why Roh Moo Hyun is responsible for the Aegis fleet and the Jae Ju naval base and the purchase of modified, upgraded F-15s.  I see !  These will eventually end up in North Korea one way or the other, and the Jae Ju location will be eventually used to spread Juche to Japan.</p>
<p>those cunning bastards.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s selling the weapons to North Korea?  Let&#8217;s see..</p>
<p>Is it Russia?  Is it China?  Both should be bombed if true.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think DaeWoo is shipping K type rifles to North Korea.  That, I think I can bet on.</p>
<p>Is North Korea producing all their weapons within their borders? Gosh, they must be really self sufficient.</p>
<p>By the way, what happenned to the luxury import ban that Bush put on after the Dong Dong 1,2,3 were fired towards the East Sea (East Sea, you Japanese people.  East Sea.  Go check old maps of Hamel, maps drawn by Europeans in the 15th, 16th centurys, they all pretty much say Sea of Coree, etc)</p>
<p>?</p>
<p>Was that scrapped with the supposed April deal that the North still hasn&#8217;t honored?</p>
<p>That, </p>
<p>would be a shame.</p>
<p>Because all they got out of the deal was the usual South Korean aid that was coming anyway and money that was theirs to begin with in Macao.</p>
<p>By the way, wouldn&#8217;t it be child&#8217;s play for the ROK to assasinate Kim Jung Nam in Macao?</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t they do it and see what happens, although I understand Kim&#8217;s eldest is no longer in the range for successor.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
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		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 22:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Kim DaeJung who sent hugh amount of money through Huyndai corporation, KJI developed nuke weapons.  These will be used in killing South Koreans as soon as the Chinese gives OK.

The permission will come after the Olympic next year.  

With the money SKs keep pumping to NK, KJI is buying oil, food and weapons.  He knows once the war starts, he will need these.

Just imagine.  The money SKs sent to KJI comes back as bullets that will kill SKs.  

Yes, NKs are preparing for a war.  They have been at it for last fifty years.  

And, talking about bullets.  SK army has bullets for only 14 days of fighting.  After 14 days, SK military has no bullets left to use.  Unless the US provide bullets, SKs have no option left but to surrender.

The lightness of trusting in SK military and politicians!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Kim DaeJung who sent hugh amount of money through Huyndai corporation, KJI developed nuke weapons.  These will be used in killing South Koreans as soon as the Chinese gives OK.</p>
<p>The permission will come after the Olympic next year.  </p>
<p>With the money SKs keep pumping to NK, KJI is buying oil, food and weapons.  He knows once the war starts, he will need these.</p>
<p>Just imagine.  The money SKs sent to KJI comes back as bullets that will kill SKs.  </p>
<p>Yes, NKs are preparing for a war.  They have been at it for last fifty years.  </p>
<p>And, talking about bullets.  SK army has bullets for only 14 days of fighting.  After 14 days, SK military has no bullets left to use.  Unless the US provide bullets, SKs have no option left but to surrender.</p>
<p>The lightness of trusting in SK military and politicians!</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
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		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 21:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the faintest case of KJI using the money for the good purpose, feeding his people for example, you still helping the horrible dictator to prolong his days of oppressing people.

Isn't this just thing these student activists are accusing the US having done to SouthKorea?  They wrongly accuse the US helped Chun to gain power and prolong military dictatorship.

Hell, SouthKoreans and some misinformed KAs are doing this to NK people.  You are helping KJI to prolong his dictatorship over innocent NK people by giving him money.

Don't give money to this dictator who is playing a god to NK people.  His father was a god and now he is a god.  And, he is busy grooming his son to be a god in North Korea.

Kim family has been the worsest curse to Korean people.  Kim IlSung started the Korean War that killed millions.  If someone else has been in his place, that person may not have started a war.  Not Kim.  He didn't think twice about killing his fellowmen in the name of Communism.

Kim Jongil now has the power.  He spends money on special food, cars and women.  The world-class playboy who is a parasite.  

You want to send the money to this scum so that he can buy more sushi, RollsRoyce  and prostitutes, let alone developing next generation nuke weapon and guidance missle system?

You are crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the faintest case of KJI using the money for the good purpose, feeding his people for example, you still helping the horrible dictator to prolong his days of oppressing people.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this just thing these student activists are accusing the US having done to SouthKorea?  They wrongly accuse the US helped Chun to gain power and prolong military dictatorship.</p>
<p>Hell, SouthKoreans and some misinformed KAs are doing this to NK people.  You are helping KJI to prolong his dictatorship over innocent NK people by giving him money.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t give money to this dictator who is playing a god to NK people.  His father was a god and now he is a god.  And, he is busy grooming his son to be a god in North Korea.</p>
<p>Kim family has been the worsest curse to Korean people.  Kim IlSung started the Korean War that killed millions.  If someone else has been in his place, that person may not have started a war.  Not Kim.  He didn&#8217;t think twice about killing his fellowmen in the name of Communism.</p>
<p>Kim Jongil now has the power.  He spends money on special food, cars and women.  The world-class playboy who is a parasite.  </p>
<p>You want to send the money to this scum so that he can buy more sushi, RollsRoyce  and prostitutes, let alone developing next generation nuke weapon and guidance missle system?</p>
<p>You are crazy.</p>
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