Comments on: The Year of the MacPig http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/ Korea... in Blog Format Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:23:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Sonagi http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82204 Sonagi Fri, 18 May 2007 12:28:09 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82204 <i>"it’s my understanding that korean instant ramyeon is very high in trans fatty acids, but i haven’t found statistics. anyone?"</i> Can't give you stats, but I can tell you since the ramyon is fried in refined vegetable oil, then it is probably high in not only trans-fats but cancer-causing acrylamides formed when high carbohydrate foods are fried or roasted at high temperatures. During the manufacturing process, ramyon noodles are fried in refined vegetable oil bleached to cover up the rancid smell. Some Koreans boil the noodles in one pan of water, and then transfer the noodles to another pan of water to make the broth. It is thought that harmful chemicals on the noodles leach into the cooking water. <i>"I’ve also heard that soy is bad for us."</i> Natural soy products like tofu and miso are fine. It's a soy derivative called soy protein isolate that has been linked to certain cancers. Soy protein isolate is found in many low-carb, high protein foods like energy bars. Many fake meat vegetarian products contain not only soy protein isolate but also MSG, hidden in other additives like yeast extract. “it’s my understanding that korean instant ramyeon is very high in trans fatty acids, but i haven’t found statistics. anyone?”

Can’t give you stats, but I can tell you since the ramyon is fried in refined vegetable oil, then it is probably high in not only trans-fats but cancer-causing acrylamides formed when high carbohydrate foods are fried or roasted at high temperatures. During the manufacturing process, ramyon noodles are fried in refined vegetable oil bleached to cover up the rancid smell. Some Koreans boil the noodles in one pan of water, and then transfer the noodles to another pan of water to make the broth. It is thought that harmful chemicals on the noodles leach into the cooking water.

“I’ve also heard that soy is bad for us.”

Natural soy products like tofu and miso are fine. It’s a soy derivative called soy protein isolate that has been linked to certain cancers. Soy protein isolate is found in many low-carb, high protein foods like energy bars. Many fake meat vegetarian products contain not only soy protein isolate but also MSG, hidden in other additives like yeast extract.

]]> By: snow http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82202 snow Fri, 18 May 2007 10:09:00 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82202 "since self-regulation is a utopian crack pipe dream" R.Elgin, self-regulation isn't the point, it's about people learning for themselves and taking care of their own health. As Wedge says, we don't need more 'help' from the nanny state. Customers pushing fast food joints to provide better quality and cut trans fats and such is much better than regulation. Encourage people to educate themselves and to take responsibility for their own health choices. “since self-regulation is a utopian crack pipe dream”

R.Elgin, self-regulation isn’t the point, it’s about people learning for themselves and taking care of their own health. As Wedge says, we don’t need more ‘help’ from the nanny state. Customers pushing fast food joints to provide better quality and cut trans fats and such is much better than regulation. Encourage people to educate themselves and to take responsibility for their own health choices.

]]> By: R. Elgin http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82198 R. Elgin Fri, 18 May 2007 09:33:37 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82198 The food culture in Korea is quite old, thus I do not think about Koreans getting heart problems from diet. Perhaps inactivity and smoking are the real problems, based upon what I've read in studies done in England. I do see some Korean parents feeding their kids western-style slop and that worries since that implies a lack of food education or a potential breakdown of the food culture, which is cheaper and mostly healthier than what passes for "food culture" in America (for example). One of America's greatest problems is a food industry that has helped to create the general state of disease and is slow to change since self-regulation is a utopian crack pipe dream. Any regulating in Korea should probably be performed on smoking since that is a killer of national budgets as well as of people. The food culture in Korea is quite old, thus I do not think about Koreans getting heart problems from diet. Perhaps inactivity and smoking are the real problems, based upon what I’ve read in studies done in England. I do see some Korean parents feeding their kids western-style slop and that worries since that implies a lack of food education or a potential breakdown of the food culture, which is cheaper and mostly healthier than what passes for “food culture” in America (for example). One of America’s greatest problems is a food industry that has helped to create the general state of disease and is slow to change since self-regulation is a utopian crack pipe dream.

Any regulating in Korea should probably be performed on smoking since that is a killer of national budgets as well as of people.

]]> By: Wedge http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82192 Wedge Fri, 18 May 2007 08:58:41 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82192 Let's bring on a nanny state in Korea and take the decision-making process away from the people and put it into the hands of bureaucrats. Obviously, the people can't be trusted to make their own food choices. Let’s bring on a nanny state in Korea and take the decision-making process away from the people and put it into the hands of bureaucrats. Obviously, the people can’t be trusted to make their own food choices.

]]> By: peninsular aborigine http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82187 peninsular aborigine Fri, 18 May 2007 08:37:05 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82187 wjk #4, "houston fatsos will beat the ramyun fatso in girth" True. But the ramyun guy has to worry about subcutaneous fat - many Koreans are obese and they don't even know it. Subcutaneous fat (think diabetes) is the Achilles' heel of the svelte Asian figure. wjk #4, “houston fatsos will beat the ramyun fatso in girth”

True. But the ramyun guy has to worry about subcutaneous fat - many Koreans are obese and they don’t even know it. Subcutaneous fat (think diabetes) is the Achilles’ heel of the svelte Asian figure.

]]> By: SomeguyinKorea http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82167 SomeguyinKorea Fri, 18 May 2007 04:48:02 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82167 And yet people aren't dying from eating soy. Some people also claim that canola oil is dangerous to humans because insects won't eat the rapeseed plant that it comes from (based on their logic, then we poison ourselves every time we take antibiotics). http://www.aces.edu/dept/extcomm/newspaper/feb23b01.html And yet people aren’t dying from eating soy. Some people also claim that canola oil is dangerous to humans because insects won’t eat the rapeseed plant that it comes from (based on their logic, then we poison ourselves every time we take antibiotics).

http://www.aces.edu/dept/extco.....23b01.html

]]> By: raven http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82101 raven Thu, 17 May 2007 10:03:00 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82101 Regarding 14, I'm not a great expert on soya beans, but I thought that soya beans had only been eaten in a fermented form in East Asia for centuries. There is something in the raw bean that makes them unsuitable for human consumption; however, about 50 years ago - perhaps around the time of the Second World War(?), someone/some company in the US developed a way of treating soya so it could be used in human foodstuffs - hence the explosion in its use since then. Although there is some controversy over how good it is for you (as well as the environment). Regarding 14, I’m not a great expert on soya beans, but I thought that soya beans had only been eaten in a fermented form in East Asia for centuries. There is something in the raw bean that makes them unsuitable for human consumption; however, about 50 years ago - perhaps around the time of the Second World War(?), someone/some company in the US developed a way of treating soya so it could be used in human foodstuffs - hence the explosion in its use since then. Although there is some controversy over how good it is for you (as well as the environment).

]]> By: wjk http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82093 wjk Thu, 17 May 2007 08:16:24 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82093 wow, so that's how they do it. You're getting vege fat/ppc in Korean burgers. Makes sense. Beef is too expensive. Thanks, chiamatt. I think soy is bad depending on what genes you have. People in that region where you're sitting have been having it as part of the diet without much problems for generations. wow, so that’s how they do it. You’re getting vege fat/ppc in Korean burgers. Makes sense. Beef is too expensive. Thanks, chiamatt.

I think soy is bad depending on what genes you have.

People in that region where you’re sitting have been having it as part of the diet without much problems for generations.

]]> By: snow http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82082 snow Thu, 17 May 2007 06:59:25 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82082 I've also heard that soy is bad for us. Does that mean that down the road we can sue because of the influence of the vegetarian agenda on us meat-lovers? I’ve also heard that soy is bad for us. Does that mean that down the road we can sue because of the influence of the vegetarian agenda on us meat-lovers?

]]> By: chiamattt http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82080 chiamattt Thu, 17 May 2007 06:44:19 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/17/the-year-of-the-macpig/#comment-82080 Because beef IS so expensive, around 60% of a McDonald's burger patty is soy bean. 100% beef is the name of the company that prints the paper wrapper....or so I have heard. Because beef IS so expensive, around 60% of a McDonald’s burger patty is soy bean.

100% beef is the name of the company that prints the paper wrapper….or so I have heard.

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