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	<title>Comments on: Cheondogyo Central Temple, Insadong neighborhood</title>
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		<title>By: The Marmot&#8217;s Hole &#187; Changdeokgung Palace and Environs</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/09/cheondogyo-central-temple-insadong-neighborhood/#comment-116284</link>
		<dc:creator>The Marmot&#8217;s Hole &#187; Changdeokgung Palace and Environs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a more complete write-up on the temple, see this post from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Marmot&#8217;s Hole &#187; Deoksugung Palace</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/09/cheondogyo-central-temple-insadong-neighborhood/#comment-102374</link>
		<dc:creator>The Marmot&#8217;s Hole &#187; Deoksugung Palace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;colonial&#8221; architect Nakamura Yoshihei (who, if you don&#8217;t remember, designed the Cheondogyo Central Temple and the East Hall and West Hall of Choong Ang High School), was built in two short years between [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;colonial&#8221; architect Nakamura Yoshihei (who, if you don&#8217;t remember, designed the Cheondogyo Central Temple and the East Hall and West Hall of Choong Ang High School), was built in two short years between [...]</p>
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		<title>By: robert neff</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert neff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 15:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great posting with excellent photographs and the history.  I always enjoy these and I learn so much from them....

I did, however, take some issue with the phrase "its roots in the nationalistic (some might say xenophobic) Donghak Peasant Rebellion of 1894."

I went to the link you provided on the Donghak Peasant Rebellion and noted some seemingly glaring omissions.  The Donghak Peasant Rebellion - from my reading - was partially based upon Western religious beliefs mixed up with native beliefs.  The Rebellion was quite extensive but, especially in the beginning, was centered in the southern provinces...particularly Cholla.  It is claimed to be anti-foreign in nature, but there are claims that Japanese members of the Amur Dragons or Black Dragons may have participated - assisting the Korean rebels.  This was not the first nor the last time Japanese citizens took part in Korean internal politics and insurrections - Cheju in 1901 is another example.

This Donghak Rebellion is partly to blame (providing the excuse) for the Sino-Japanese war.  I might add that despite Ms. Shaw's claim that the Russo-Japanese war was the first incident of a sneak attack upon naval units by the Japanese - I feel that the attack upon the Chinese ships outside of Ansan prior to war being declared makes this the first.

Sorry for running on......

Great Pictures Robert...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great posting with excellent photographs and the history.  I always enjoy these and I learn so much from them&#8230;.</p>
<p>I did, however, take some issue with the phrase &#8220;its roots in the nationalistic (some might say xenophobic) Donghak Peasant Rebellion of 1894.&#8221;</p>
<p>I went to the link you provided on the Donghak Peasant Rebellion and noted some seemingly glaring omissions.  The Donghak Peasant Rebellion - from my reading - was partially based upon Western religious beliefs mixed up with native beliefs.  The Rebellion was quite extensive but, especially in the beginning, was centered in the southern provinces&#8230;particularly Cholla.  It is claimed to be anti-foreign in nature, but there are claims that Japanese members of the Amur Dragons or Black Dragons may have participated - assisting the Korean rebels.  This was not the first nor the last time Japanese citizens took part in Korean internal politics and insurrections - Cheju in 1901 is another example.</p>
<p>This Donghak Rebellion is partly to blame (providing the excuse) for the Sino-Japanese war.  I might add that despite Ms. Shaw&#8217;s claim that the Russo-Japanese war was the first incident of a sneak attack upon naval units by the Japanese - I feel that the attack upon the Chinese ships outside of Ansan prior to war being declared makes this the first.</p>
<p>Sorry for running on&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Great Pictures Robert&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Western Confucian</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/05/09/cheondogyo-central-temple-insadong-neighborhood/#comment-81526</link>
		<dc:creator>The Western Confucian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 11:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Chinese and bricks

I remember reading that early Nineteenth Century philosopher Jeong Yak-yong "Dasan" was condsidered a reformer for suggesting that foreign ideas, bricks from China among them, be allowed to enter the Hermit Kingdom. This might explain why Chinese masons were needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Chinese and bricks</p>
<p>I remember reading that early Nineteenth Century philosopher Jeong Yak-yong &#8220;Dasan&#8221; was condsidered a reformer for suggesting that foreign ideas, bricks from China among them, be allowed to enter the Hermit Kingdom. This might explain why Chinese masons were needed.</p>
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		<title>By: sanshinseon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanshinseon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 09:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've heard that the Cheondogyo Central Temple has a lot of number-symbolism in its design, like those windows and the brickwork -- reasons for every detail -- does anybody know any of those?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard that the Cheondogyo Central Temple has a lot of number-symbolism in its design, like those windows and the brickwork &#8212; reasons for every detail &#8212; does anybody know any of those?</p>
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		<title>By: seoulmilk</title>
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		<dc:creator>seoulmilk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 08:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow.  thanks robert.  as i work near the area, you explained many of my curiosities i had about the buildings mentioned in your post.  thanks!

what's the price range for min's club?  i've heard the food is not worth the price range.  anyway, there seems to be lot of nice cars parked outside.  at one point, due to my failing eyes, i saw the small sign as "men's club" and seeing the nice cars parked outside, i assumed it was like some geisha-type house for businessmen when i first saw it two years ago.

as for insadong, why does the city allow cars during the weekdays???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow.  thanks robert.  as i work near the area, you explained many of my curiosities i had about the buildings mentioned in your post.  thanks!</p>
<p>what&#8217;s the price range for min&#8217;s club?  i&#8217;ve heard the food is not worth the price range.  anyway, there seems to be lot of nice cars parked outside.  at one point, due to my failing eyes, i saw the small sign as &#8220;men&#8217;s club&#8221; and seeing the nice cars parked outside, i assumed it was like some geisha-type house for businessmen when i first saw it two years ago.</p>
<p>as for insadong, why does the city allow cars during the weekdays???</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 08:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't Korean women who married Chinese citizens still forced to give up their nationality just a few short years ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but weren&#8217;t Korean women who married Chinese citizens still forced to give up their nationality just a few short years ago?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Koehler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 07:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the Chinese were brought in to do the work because Korea at the time lacked the masonry skills required.

That being said, Korea &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; have a larger resident Chinese population back then.  Many of the original Chinese &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Chinese_in_Korea" rel="nofollow"&gt;left for the United States and Taiwan&lt;/a&gt; during the 60s and 70s at the "encouragement" of President Park Chung-hee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the Chinese were brought in to do the work because Korea at the time lacked the masonry skills required.</p>
<p>That being said, Korea <i>did</i> have a larger resident Chinese population back then.  Many of the original Chinese <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Chinese_in_Korea" rel="nofollow">left for the United States and Taiwan</a> during the 60s and 70s at the &#8220;encouragement&#8221; of President Park Chung-hee.</p>
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		<title>By: dokdoforever</title>
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		<dc:creator>dokdoforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 06:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Robert.  I pass by the Nonghyup regularly and had wondered what had been there before.  You've pointed out that many of the Catholic Cathedrals, and the Cheondogyo Central Temple too, were constructed by Chinese laborers.  Is this because they were the only skilled brick layers around, or because they were cheaper than Koreans?  Were the Chinese long time residents, or just brought in for the job? It sounds as if there was a sizable Chinese community here at the time.  I wonder what happened to them after liberation - maybe off to Taiwan or the mainland?  I wonder if there is much remaining (buildings,for instance) of the Chinese legacy on the peninsula.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Robert.  I pass by the Nonghyup regularly and had wondered what had been there before.  You&#8217;ve pointed out that many of the Catholic Cathedrals, and the Cheondogyo Central Temple too, were constructed by Chinese laborers.  Is this because they were the only skilled brick layers around, or because they were cheaper than Koreans?  Were the Chinese long time residents, or just brought in for the job? It sounds as if there was a sizable Chinese community here at the time.  I wonder what happened to them after liberation - maybe off to Taiwan or the mainland?  I wonder if there is much remaining (buildings,for instance) of the Chinese legacy on the peninsula.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Koehler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 05:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note: the architect behind the Cheondogyo Central Temple also designed the &lt;a href="http://www.discoverdalian.com/vintage/slides/movie.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Bank of Chosen building&lt;/a&gt; in Dalian, China (one of the coolest cities I've ever visited)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note: the architect behind the Cheondogyo Central Temple also designed the <a href="http://www.discoverdalian.com/vintage/slides/movie.htm" rel="nofollow">Bank of Chosen building</a> in Dalian, China (one of the coolest cities I&#8217;ve ever visited)</p>
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