Well, if it makes Imus feel any better, perhaps he can get a job doing training films for the Bundeswehr [BBC]. See Youtube video here.
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So did it help him fire that MG3 any better?
The best part of the BBC article is the following:
“Clearly these folks don’t know anything about African-Americans or the Bronx,” said Bronx borough president Adolfo Carrion Jnr, who recently returned from a trip to Germany to promote tourism to the district.”
Tourism in the Bronx? Maybe a Yankees Game or the Zoo, if you’re going to be in town for a LONG time. Hah!
No one that knows anything about The Bronx would write “the Bronx”. I was born and raised in The Bronx.
It’s now going through another transformation with the New Yankee Stadium construction. There’s a lot of history, especially in apartment building designs and parks. But yes, I agree, I don’t see foreigners touring the area.
The Germans have it wrong. It would not be an African-American, it would be a South American.
Intersting thing, even to this day, a lot of the buildings around the new Yankee Stadium are still owned by Italians and Jews.
We have it all wrong; Pravda has it all right;
http://english.pravda.ru/opini.....ts/89728-0
Hey, but at least Pravda links to pics of Daisy Fuentes.
I think a lot of credit has to go to the German soldier who video taped this, presumbably covertly with the intention of reporting it.
I also think a lot of the blame has to go to America. That’s right. America.
Those guys got the whole idea and background and scene from where?
American movies.
Now, let’s ask why the Bronx is the Bronx in 2007 vs, say 1954. Hmm?
White flight !
What is white flight? Well, it turned East St. Louis into a slum. The city of Detroit into a slum, the city of Compton into a slum, the city of Newark into a slum, etc. It’s functional apartheid practiced by white people in America. That’s what it is.
White people have a hard time living with Native Americans, too.
They give them worthless land and they criticize the morals of the Indians for using it for casinos. I mean, it’s land located and suitable not for farming, industry, office space, or tourism. What else are they supposed to do with it? I once visited a casino-less Indian land in Arizona/California, and it was like a 3rd world country for crying out loud.
Instead of calling the great, great grandfather a great explorer, pioneer, settler, brave farmer in the prairies, benevolent plantation owner, etc, how about an honest land stealer, Native American killer, racist, slave owner, labor immigrant from Europe, etc?
I mean, people here look at Latin American labor immigrants like bugs.
Hate me for saying it, but Americans fear the inner city.
Koreans don’t fly away from their Seoul apt’s just because there’s a dal-dong-nae near by. You probably couldn’t even tell, if the dude was walking amongst them in clean clothes. In the ROK, people still live in Seoul, and what would be Bronx, Brooklyn, and Queens are worth astronomical money landwise, versus what would equate to American suburbs such as Suwon, Kwa Chun, Boon Dang, etc.
I’m sorry for touching nerves, but the suburbia versus inner city trend in America is just disturbing.
Kang Nam should be a ghetto if it was America. Everyone should be commuting with their nice cars from Suwon.
i’d safely bet that what you say in that video did/does/will happen in the ROK army too.
Ya, ji geum nuh neun…
Where would that ROK guy get his ideas from?
Americans. American movies.
Quiz for fellow Marmoters:
How many logical fallacies can you identify in the string of multiple posts by wjk?
Holy Schiesse, the Bronx borough president’s name is “Adolfo”.
“….How many logical fallacies can you identify in the string of multiple posts by wjk?”
I’m not inclined to try, since I don’t want to give myself a headache, but I must say I greatly admire how wjk was able to turn a vastly amusing Bundeswehr training film into a comprehensive indictment of US society. Let’s overlook any possible fallacies and give wjk an “A” for comprehensive creativity.
But I really do think, wjk, that we have to give credit to the Bundewehr for thinking this one up for themselves. I know Federal Republic of Germany Luftwaffe persnonel have trained with their US counterparts ever since the reconstitution of an independent FRG military (1955?), but as far as I know, since the very beginning German Bundeswehr troops have been trained by only their own training establishment. After all, it’s not as though they lacked for extremely experienced Army personnel of their own, back at that time.
In 1978 our battalion (based in Germany) trained at the German infantry school, but under the supervision of our own officers/NCO’s. We did get to see a German army training film, on combat in forests and cities; at that time they were still using a WWII era training film, yes indeed my friends it wwas one of their own, right from the glory days!
Coal bucket helmets, potato masher grenades, etc. etc; sehr gemutlich. No Nazi insignia or politics of course, it was strictly techical military tactics. And I have to say that their school was very good.
No imported US Army training films for them! “Vielen dank” very much.
I guess the old WWII films must have finally worn out, and unsere freunde must have needed aappropriate target subjects for a new one. When that happens — hey, who ya gonna call?
Can’t use the traditional enemies of the Reich. Not the Brits, cause you know the BBC is gonna get the story. Certainly not the French and the Poles, cause they’ll scream bloody murder and maybe cut off trade.
And certainly not the Russkies! They’d be liable to send somebody to sidle slyly up to the unsuspecting filmmaker, maybe serve him a samovar of tasty polonium tea.
Yes, there can be only logical choice, for the thinking German of 2007. Just consult the national opinion polls, und alles werden klar.
I think I’ll email the link to Fox news channel, should be fun to watch if they run with it. I imagine an enterprising BBC reporter was aware of the US obsession with the Imus story, then he saw this item somewhere in German media and ran with it.
Give that BBC reporter an “E” for expert marksmanship (or however the British Army measures that skill, out on the rifle range).
And say hey Willy Mays — who (whom?) is the ROK Army using for target practice in their training films these days?
It’s gotta be on Youtube, right? Sorry, I’m not computer-savvy enough to go search for myself.
Probably some vaguely Japanese looking chap. Still, I’m hoping for the grinning Alfred E Neumann type portrait of President Bush. By God, if that can’t inspire a new ROK recruit to grunt enthusiastically, as he thrusts his bayonet forward — I don’t know what will.
at that time they were still using a WWII era training film, yes indeed my friends it was one of their own, right from the glory days!
I would bet they felt rather nostalgic watching that film!
you’re not gonna say that white flight doesn’t exist, right?
A dude in Staten Island told me a lot of the Italians used to be in Brooklyn. Then, they moved to Staten Island.
I asked him why, and it was basically because colored people moved in.
White flight overseas.
South Africa.
Ever met a white guy talking in some accent that’s not British, and not American yet surely different? I’ve met a lot of South African whites in America. I don’t have to ask them why they moved in the 90s. I mean, you could watch a documentary of South Africa after Nelson Mandela and get your own answer.
They went everywhere. Mostly where whites are. Europe, US, Canada, etc.
That said, Nobel Peace Prize was, is, and will be a political prize. Mandela deserves the prize for bringing justice to South Africa. However, I think he did a bad job in stabilizing race relations afterward. Massive, massive white flight.
white flight created an interesting political situation in America. Entire voting districts became populated by minority races, enabling these minorities to get elected to the US House of Representatives. But, also interestingly, virtually none in the US Senate. If you call what, 2,3, 1 out of 50 in Senate pretty significant, then I’d say that’s not anywhere near representative of the whole US population % wise.
#14 Netizen Kim:
“I would bet they felt rather nostalgic watching that film!”
Actually, to give you a serious answer, I didn’t detect any such sentiment among the young officer and his soldiers (two squads worth?) who served as demonstrators for us in the preliminary training.
I remember watching them with interest as it was an unusual opportunity to interact with German troops (this was (and probably still is) suprisingly rare among US Army troops stationed in Germany, as both military establishments trained almost exclusively amongst themselves. There is no parallel to the “KATUSA” program for US Army in Germany).
They were well-disciplined, in fact I credited them for better discipline than we had in our unit at that time. Young German officer was extremely formal and (I thought) excessively polite in his orders and directives to his soldiers.
Everything was on an exacting schedule, start at this time and finish at this one. Nothing unmilitary about that of course, still I knew at the time that the German Army was unionized, and I thought I could observe indicators of this.
A scheduled exercise was going to be definitely finished at xxxx (1600 or whenever it was), regardless of how well things were going, since that was the scheduled “knock-off” time for the duty day.
If we Americans wanted to stay on our own and keep working, no problem, but there wasn’t going to be any overtime for the Germans.
It’s a good deal, n.k., when all you have to do is train to fight on only your home turf. There wasn’t any question in the 1970’s that the German Army would ever have to deploy anywhere than to their own eastern border, to defend the boundaries of the FRG.
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Well the Bundeswehr is itself a very colorful organization. Heck even the former Chilean dictator Pinochet called the Bundeswehr a bunch of long haired drug smoking hippies. Despite Pinochet’s comments the Bundeswehr is a very dedicated and capable army and I have to admit its soldiers look a lot sharper than the soldiers of the ROK Army.
Anyways, swearing among servicemen/women is a common occurence in any military. So although some people might get offended with the language in the video, one shouldn’t put too much meaning into it.