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	<title>Comments on: Marmot&#8217;s Open Thread #4</title>
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		<title>By: sewing</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/14/marmots-open-thread-4/#comment-79174</link>
		<dc:creator>sewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We're only up by one game now.  C'mon, guys, you can do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re only up by one game now.  C&#8217;mon, guys, you can do it!</p>
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		<title>By: JiMong</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/14/marmots-open-thread-4/#comment-79162</link>
		<dc:creator>JiMong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time Flies, TGIF Everyone! 

Let's pray for those victims and their families and friends over the weekend.

And hope the Canucks beat the Stars this time!!
Go Canucks! Go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time Flies, TGIF Everyone! </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s pray for those victims and their families and friends over the weekend.</p>
<p>And hope the Canucks beat the Stars this time!!<br />
Go Canucks! Go!</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/14/marmots-open-thread-4/#comment-79149</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sewing wrote:

&lt;i&gt;"How about replacing each long “Comment deleted because…” boilerplate entry with just a short sentence and a link to an updated post, setting out the evolved moderation policy that has emerged?"&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, that has been suggested by several commenters.  We all know the rules by now even if not all of us follow them all the time.  I don't even think a reason needs to be given.  Just delete it and be done with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sewing wrote:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;How about replacing each long “Comment deleted because…” boilerplate entry with just a short sentence and a link to an updated post, setting out the evolved moderation policy that has emerged?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Yes, that has been suggested by several commenters.  We all know the rules by now even if not all of us follow them all the time.  I don&#8217;t even think a reason needs to be given.  Just delete it and be done with it.</p>
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		<title>By: sewing</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/14/marmots-open-thread-4/#comment-79127</link>
		<dc:creator>sewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well over 400 comments on one of the V-Tech threads alone...surely that's a Marmot's Hole record?

Anyhow, it's good to see some of the comments on some of the longer V-Tech threads get weeded out, but a suggestion for Oranckay:

How about replacing each long "Comment deleted because..." boilerplate entry with just a short sentence and a link to an updated post, setting out the evolved moderation policy that has emerged?

As things are, the "deleted" comments seem longer than the non-deleted comments, so it's harder to keep track of the dialogue than if the deleted comments were deleted entirely, or just replaced by short sentences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well over 400 comments on one of the V-Tech threads alone&#8230;surely that&#8217;s a Marmot&#8217;s Hole record?</p>
<p>Anyhow, it&#8217;s good to see some of the comments on some of the longer V-Tech threads get weeded out, but a suggestion for Oranckay:</p>
<p>How about replacing each long &#8220;Comment deleted because&#8230;&#8221; boilerplate entry with just a short sentence and a link to an updated post, setting out the evolved moderation policy that has emerged?</p>
<p>As things are, the &#8220;deleted&#8221; comments seem longer than the non-deleted comments, so it&#8217;s harder to keep track of the dialogue than if the deleted comments were deleted entirely, or just replaced by short sentences.</p>
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		<title>By: dogbertt</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/14/marmots-open-thread-4/#comment-78279</link>
		<dc:creator>dogbertt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyone care to comment on the Columbine redux over at Va. Tech that happened this morning? I thought after 9-11, Americans forswore this kind of senselessness and madness. Terrible tragedy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why yes, H. Kim, "Americans" have forsworn it.

Unfortunately, murderous immigrants such as Chou Vang and Sung Hi Cho have not.

Guess your pitiful attempt at a dig against white Americans backfired, eh?

Maybe now the insidious myth of the "model minority" will be tossed in the garbage where it belongs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anyone care to comment on the Columbine redux over at Va. Tech that happened this morning? I thought after 9-11, Americans forswore this kind of senselessness and madness. Terrible tragedy.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why yes, H. Kim, &#8220;Americans&#8221; have forsworn it.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, murderous immigrants such as Chou Vang and Sung Hi Cho have not.</p>
<p>Guess your pitiful attempt at a dig against white Americans backfired, eh?</p>
<p>Maybe now the insidious myth of the &#8220;model minority&#8221; will be tossed in the garbage where it belongs.</p>
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		<title>By: Occidentalism</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/14/marmots-open-thread-4/#comment-78025</link>
		<dc:creator>Occidentalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For pointing out a very likely suspect, some foolish commenter on the Marmots Hole called me &#8220;racist&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For pointing out a very likely suspect, some foolish commenter on the Marmots Hole called me &#8220;racist&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/14/marmots-open-thread-4/#comment-78020</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dogbert:

Unfortunately, there isn't much we can do about our gun problem because

1) the Second Amendment has been grossly misinterpreted for a long time

2) there are so many guns everywhere

Nevertheless, tighter restrictions on who can own what kind and how many would certainly not make America less safe.  The problem is political.  Anytime the government attempts to put any kind of restriction, the NRA and gun lovers across America scream and throw money at gun law opponents while reciting cutesy quotes about people killing people (with guns!) and peeling guns from cold, dead hands.  You may argue about whether America has a gun culture, but clearly there is a strong mindset that gun control laws are "unAmerican."

I agree that someone bent on murder is going to find the means, but the difference between the US and countries that have long had strict gun control laws is the means available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dogbert:</p>
<p>Unfortunately, there isn&#8217;t much we can do about our gun problem because</p>
<p>1) the Second Amendment has been grossly misinterpreted for a long time</p>
<p>2) there are so many guns everywhere</p>
<p>Nevertheless, tighter restrictions on who can own what kind and how many would certainly not make America less safe.  The problem is political.  Anytime the government attempts to put any kind of restriction, the NRA and gun lovers across America scream and throw money at gun law opponents while reciting cutesy quotes about people killing people (with guns!) and peeling guns from cold, dead hands.  You may argue about whether America has a gun culture, but clearly there is a strong mindset that gun control laws are &#8220;unAmerican.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree that someone bent on murder is going to find the means, but the difference between the US and countries that have long had strict gun control laws is the means available.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone care to conjecture on what status Jun Doo Hwan's 2nd son is in the Los Angeles area with his former tv star/movie star wife and the new baby girl between them, nesting in southern California in a well to do suburban LA neighborhood?

Hmm.  Student?  Permanent resident?  US citizen?

How?  Why?  What?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone care to conjecture on what status Jun Doo Hwan&#8217;s 2nd son is in the Los Angeles area with his former tv star/movie star wife and the new baby girl between them, nesting in southern California in a well to do suburban LA neighborhood?</p>
<p>Hmm.  Student?  Permanent resident?  US citizen?</p>
<p>How?  Why?  What?</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/14/marmots-open-thread-4/#comment-78014</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Michael Jackson is in discussions about creating a 50-foot robotic replica of himself to roam the Las Vegas desert, according to reports." 

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/41620594

Tee-hee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Michael Jackson is in discussions about creating a 50-foot robotic replica of himself to roam the Las Vegas desert, according to reports.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/41620594" rel="nofollow">http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/41620594</a></p>
<p>Tee-hee!</p>
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		<title>By: dogbertt</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/14/marmots-open-thread-4/#comment-78011</link>
		<dc:creator>dogbertt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;lastly, let me tell you something as a fellow american: i grew up in an america that was almost all white. i prefer to keep it that way&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is the second time I've read something similar you've written.

No sarcasm intended, but why do you feel that way?

And, I will answer your question.  I cannot say that any group is entirely unassimilable into the U.S., but I do believe that rates of assimilation vary widely.  Those groups would be ones having an inordinate amount of ethnic/racial/cultural pride, those who have the choice of residing in nearly monocultural enclaves in the U.S., and those who simply view their stay in the U.S. as a way to make money, have their children avoid military service back home, or other reason that makes their residence in the U.S. a matter of convenience above all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>lastly, let me tell you something as a fellow american: i grew up in an america that was almost all white. i prefer to keep it that way</p></blockquote>
<p>This is the second time I&#8217;ve read something similar you&#8217;ve written.</p>
<p>No sarcasm intended, but why do you feel that way?</p>
<p>And, I will answer your question.  I cannot say that any group is entirely unassimilable into the U.S., but I do believe that rates of assimilation vary widely.  Those groups would be ones having an inordinate amount of ethnic/racial/cultural pride, those who have the choice of residing in nearly monocultural enclaves in the U.S., and those who simply view their stay in the U.S. as a way to make money, have their children avoid military service back home, or other reason that makes their residence in the U.S. a matter of convenience above all.</p>
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