Comments on: Seems we have an agreement, now comes the hard part http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/ Korea... in Blog Format Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:32:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: snow http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76331 snow Tue, 03 Apr 2007 09:51:47 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76331 Since it appears that Korea got a good deal out of this, probably better than what the US got, it is a step in the right direction for Korea. Socialist isolationism will get them nowhere and even Roh knows this. Since it appears that Korea got a good deal out of this, probably better than what the US got, it is a step in the right direction for Korea. Socialist isolationism will get them nowhere and even Roh knows this.

]]> By: michael http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76292 michael Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:43:29 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76292 The cup is nearly empty for Korea. It has the food prices of Switzerland without the Swiss income level. The chaebol families use the Uri Nara cheerleading to protect their market and the faux leftists here who have a knee-jerk reaction against anything involving the U.S. fall in line behind them in keeping the market closed. This agreement as Wedge said is about managed trade, not free trade. The cup is nearly empty for Korea. It has the food prices of Switzerland without the Swiss income level. The chaebol families use the Uri Nara cheerleading to protect their market and the faux leftists here who have a knee-jerk reaction against anything involving the U.S. fall in line behind them in keeping the market closed.

This agreement as Wedge said is about managed trade, not free trade.

]]> By: Wedge http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76290 Wedge Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:31:58 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76290 This should be called the MTA, as in managed trade agreement, because there's very little free about it. And this whole us vs. them drama played out in the Korean press is completely ludicrous, as if keeping evil American rice out is actually good for uri nara. Newsflash: Keeping your markets protected is not good for you in the long run. You have the highest food prices in THE WORLD. This is not about giving it up to Uncle Sam, it's about reaching the next level of economic development. This should be called the MTA, as in managed trade agreement, because there’s very little free about it. And this whole us vs. them drama played out in the Korean press is completely ludicrous, as if keeping evil American rice out is actually good for uri nara.

Newsflash: Keeping your markets protected is not good for you in the long run. You have the highest food prices in THE WORLD. This is not about giving it up to Uncle Sam, it’s about reaching the next level of economic development.

]]> By: dogbertt http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76289 dogbertt Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:30:31 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76289 <blockquote>Sales of European and Japanese cars have exponentially increased every year - even non luxury makes.</blockquote> It's true. Going from 1000 units sold one year to 2000 sold the next year is an exponential difference. Viva the free market!

Sales of European and Japanese cars have exponentially increased every year - even non luxury makes.

It’s true. Going from 1000 units sold one year to 2000 sold the next year is an exponential difference. Viva the free market!

]]> By: cm http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76286 cm Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:07:08 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76286 "a lot of agricultural products were left out, and others have long tariff fadeouts; large parts of the service industry remain closed; " That's a matter of interpretation, is the cup half full or half empty. "it sneaks Kaesong into the deal, which is criminal, etc." No it doesn't. Kaesong will be discussed later as promised to the Koreans, but that doesn't mean the US will ever allow it. "Also, it wouldn’t be surprising if Korea still kept U.S. cars out using nontariff regulatory barriers and the Uri Nara, buy Korean cheerleading that has worked well until now." Sales of European and Japanese cars have exponentially increased every year - even non luxury makes. Why aren't there any American makes doing even half as good? Is it all because of non tariff barriers? “a lot of agricultural products were left out, and others have long tariff fadeouts; large parts of the service industry remain closed; ”

That’s a matter of interpretation, is the cup half full or half empty.

“it sneaks Kaesong into the deal, which is criminal, etc.”

No it doesn’t. Kaesong will be discussed later as promised to the Koreans, but that doesn’t mean the US will ever allow it.

“Also, it wouldn’t be surprising if Korea still kept U.S. cars out using nontariff regulatory barriers and the Uri Nara, buy Korean cheerleading that has worked well until now.”

Sales of European and Japanese cars have exponentially increased every year - even non luxury makes. Why aren’t there any American makes doing even half as good? Is it all because of non tariff barriers?

]]> By: michael http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76281 michael Tue, 03 Apr 2007 01:37:04 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76281 Now that the details are coming out it sounds like Korea got a better deal than the U.S. For example, U.S. beef tariffs are removed over 15 years; a lot of agricultural products were left out, and others have long tariff fadeouts; large parts of the service industry remain closed; it sneaks Kaesong into the deal, which is criminal, etc. Also, it wouldn't be surprising if Korea still kept U.S. cars out using nontariff regulatory barriers and the Uri Nara, buy Korean cheerleading that has worked well until now. These FTAs are so piecemeal anyway that they shouldn't be called "free." The Financial Times had an editorial to day about the FTA that questioned the wisdom of bliateral agreements over multilateral ones, which is a good question. Now that the details are coming out it sounds like Korea got a better deal than the U.S. For example, U.S. beef tariffs are removed over 15 years; a lot of agricultural products were left out, and others have long tariff fadeouts; large parts of the service industry remain closed; it sneaks Kaesong into the deal, which is criminal, etc.

Also, it wouldn’t be surprising if Korea still kept U.S. cars out using nontariff regulatory barriers and the Uri Nara, buy Korean cheerleading that has worked well until now.

These FTAs are so piecemeal anyway that they shouldn’t be called “free.” The Financial Times had an editorial to day about the FTA that questioned the wisdom of bliateral agreements over multilateral ones, which is a good question.

]]> By: cm http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76280 cm Tue, 03 Apr 2007 01:33:18 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76280 Sperwer, Korea's market is small compared to Japan and China. But Korea's FTA will be important for the United States because Bush intends to open up all of Asia to Free Trade - including Japan and China who will now be feeling the pressure to strike up their own trade deals with the US. Sperwer, Korea’s market is small compared to Japan and China. But Korea’s FTA will be important for the United States because Bush intends to open up all of Asia to Free Trade - including Japan and China who will now be feeling the pressure to strike up their own trade deals with the US.

]]> By: Wedge http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76277 Wedge Tue, 03 Apr 2007 01:07:30 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76277 #20--Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day. #20–Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

]]> By: sumo294 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76273 sumo294 Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:53:51 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76273 Looks like it will go through. I can hardly believe Roh will get credit for FTA. Up is down and left is right. What the heck, how could the idiot get something right? Did his son manage to convince the idiot on FTA? Why did the URI party agree? Looks like it will go through. I can hardly believe Roh will get credit for FTA. Up is down and left is right. What the heck, how could the idiot get something right? Did his son manage to convince the idiot on FTA? Why did the URI party agree?

]]> By: Sperwer http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76241 Sperwer Mon, 02 Apr 2007 12:32:24 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/02/seems-we-have-an-agreement-now-comes-the-hard-part/#comment-76241 <blockquote>I think this definitely is one step forward for Korea.</blockquote> If Congress is foolish enough to let them get away with it, it certainly is a deal that disproportionately advantages Korea. Whether such continuation of the breast feeding of this 50+ year old whingeing infant is a step forward - well?

I think this definitely is one step forward for Korea.

If Congress is foolish enough to let them get away with it, it certainly is a deal that disproportionately advantages Korea. Whether such continuation of the breast feeding of this 50+ year old whingeing infant is a step forward - well?

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