Seems we have an agreement, now comes the hard part

Yonhap’s news channel announces a FTA has been agreed two by both parties (assuming my Korean understanding is correct). Most of my reading covers the fact that many sectors will be opened up on a very very long timetable. Cannot wait for the details.

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  1. Posted April 2, 2007 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    Here’s the WSJ article:

    http://online.wsj.com/article_.....56597.html

    Apparently an exchange of beef for rice - rats, no riceroni - and a mutual scuttling of auto tariffs were the big trade-offs.

    It’s way to early to ascertain, though, whether this is a “deal”. First of all, it remains actually to be drafted and signed; and anyone who has negotiated with a Korean knows an awful lot can happen between expressions of pious intent and signature of a contract - not to mention that even signed contracts are typically treated by Koreans as just the opening of “real” negotiations - something that the Korean side may have miscalculated here, because the nature of the current US “fast-track” procedure precludes any further negotiation. Second, I think there’s a fair chance that the negotiators here - on both sides - are really just declaring victory and passing the ball and the buck to their respective legislatures. Finally, my guess it that this deal will not find approval with either.

  2. wjk your flag
    Posted April 2, 2007 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    반면 약값은 오히려 오를 가능성이 높다. 미국의 신약 특허기간이 연장되면서 값싼 복제약의 판매가 지연될 수 있고 전문의약품의 대중광고 허용으로 제약회사들의 마케팅 비용이 크게 늘면서 약값 상승요인으로 작용할 가능성이 높기 때문이다.

    http://news.chosun.com/site/da.....00636.html

    박재구 (gibigibi) 찬성하기 1 반대하기 6
    약값이 크게 오른다 병원비도 크게 오른다 건강보험료도 크게 오른다 돈없는 사람은 죽는다 이게 법이다 FTA법 … (04/02/2007 14:19:49)

  3. iwshim your flag
    Posted April 2, 2007 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    Halleluiah!

    14 years hear and things getter better one step at a time!

  4. railwaycharm your flag
    Posted April 2, 2007 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Sperwer, right you are. They even come after you once the contract is finished. They will find every nickel in your vapor-trail.

  5. austin your flag
    Posted April 2, 2007 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Places like Russia, China, and Korea are run by shifty dudes who flaut agreements, and can’t be trusted. Why why why. would anyone want to enter into an agreement with such people. Look at Warren Buffet, world’s shrewdest investor. Does he invest with dodgy people? No way. Waste of time money and effort.

  6. Posted April 2, 2007 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Berkshire Hathaway owns 4% of POSCO.

  7. Posted April 2, 2007 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    What about law? Will it open up the legal business?

  8. Posted April 2, 2007 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Don’t hold your breath. Legal market has received no mention so far. There is no lobby in the US to open Korea’s legal market. The momentum would have to come from within, from Korean companies, accounting firms, investment banks, securities companies,etc that demand access to foreign law firms. That, or for the ROK government would have to aknowledge that an open legal market is a necessary part of realizing its financial hub strategy. You already know how well that’s going…

  9. wjk your flag
    Posted April 2, 2007 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Mr. Linkd, is healthcare in South Korea getting more expensive?

    Thanks.

  10. babarian your flag
    Posted April 2, 2007 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    According to chosun.com(Korean edition) the legal service market is to be opened to American lawyers over 5 years in 3 stages.

  11. Posted April 2, 2007 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Nope. There’s plenty of competition here to keep prices down. Free trade may result in higher prices for medicine, though. Have to see the details.

  12. Posted April 2, 2007 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    For American lawyers to join Korean firms or for American firms to open up here as independents?

  13. Posted April 2, 2007 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    According to a poll reported in The Chosun Daily [http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200703/200703300025.html]

    Some 80 percent of Korea’s top 30 companies said they would switch to foreign law firms from their domestic ones if the law market was fully open here. Seventeen companies said the main reason for wanting to switch is unsatisfactory service, while four companies cited expensive fees.

    The article goes on to claim that “Korea’s law market will open gradually starting at the end of this year when foreign lawyers will be allowed to perform some services here.”

    Don’t hold your breath; I know some who tried starting fourteen years ago when Korea was supposed to open its market - they went into respiratory arrest.

    The “opening” to which the article refers is one that Korea was supposed already to have made under WTO and, if you look at the details, isn’t an opening at all - it’s the entrance to a cul d’sac. I’ll leave it to Brendon or another of the local cigar store white men to retail the detail; I’m sorry, but beyond this, I won’t be bothered with it any more.

  14. R. Elgin your flag
    Posted April 2, 2007 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    Does any lawyer herein think that opening up the legal services market would improve Korean society on the whole (in the long run)?

    I’m curious.

  15. babarian your flag
    Posted April 2, 2007 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Those who talk down on Korea on every opportunity are like those losers who keep complaining about their jobs, but cannot find better ones.

    Anyway, Linkd, the article in Chosun doesn’t say much, but this is the rough translation.

    ” American law firmws can open offices in Korea and advise on American and international laws when the FTA takes effect(after ratification by Parliaments of both countries). Within 2 years after ratification, Americans can cooperate with Korean firms; within 5 years American and Korean firms can set up joint firms, and American firms can hire Korean lawyers.”

  16. Posted April 2, 2007 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    Don’t tell me - I’m no lawyer. But those ambulance chasers up at chinalaw (#7) may want to digest your translation, seasoned with Sperwer’s generous grain of salt.

  17. cm your flag
    Posted April 2, 2007 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    Despite the predictable negativity here, I think this definitely is one step forward for Korea. One of the very few things that Roh Mu Hyun should be lauded for. A credit should be given to where it is due. Of course, there’s lot of obstacles that must be hurdled yet. But as the Chili-Korea FTA shows, it could be done. FTA with the US will vanquish the morally bankrupt Japanese economic model and finally put S.Korea on the road to economic reforms.

  18. R. Elgin your flag
    Posted April 2, 2007 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    I hope so “cm” for that would be great. Korea needs better than China, even with all of its money.

  19. Posted April 2, 2007 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    I think this definitely is one step forward for Korea.

    If Congress is foolish enough to let them get away with it, it certainly is a deal that disproportionately advantages Korea. Whether such continuation of the breast feeding of this 50+ year old whingeing infant is a step forward - well?

  20. sumo294 your flag
    Posted April 3, 2007 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Looks like it will go through. I can hardly believe Roh will get credit for FTA. Up is down and left is right. What the heck, how could the idiot get something right? Did his son manage to convince the idiot on FTA? Why did the URI party agree?

  21. Wedge your flag
    Posted April 3, 2007 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    #20–Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

  22. cm your flag
    Posted April 3, 2007 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Sperwer, Korea’s market is small compared to Japan and China. But Korea’s FTA will be important for the United States because Bush intends to open up all of Asia to Free Trade - including Japan and China who will now be feeling the pressure to strike up their own trade deals with the US.

  23. michael your flag
    Posted April 3, 2007 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    Now that the details are coming out it sounds like Korea got a better deal than the U.S. For example, U.S. beef tariffs are removed over 15 years; a lot of agricultural products were left out, and others have long tariff fadeouts; large parts of the service industry remain closed; it sneaks Kaesong into the deal, which is criminal, etc.

    Also, it wouldn’t be surprising if Korea still kept U.S. cars out using nontariff regulatory barriers and the Uri Nara, buy Korean cheerleading that has worked well until now.

    These FTAs are so piecemeal anyway that they shouldn’t be called “free.” The Financial Times had an editorial to day about the FTA that questioned the wisdom of bliateral agreements over multilateral ones, which is a good question.

  24. cm your flag
    Posted April 3, 2007 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    “a lot of agricultural products were left out, and others have long tariff fadeouts; large parts of the service industry remain closed; ”

    That’s a matter of interpretation, is the cup half full or half empty.

    “it sneaks Kaesong into the deal, which is criminal, etc.”

    No it doesn’t. Kaesong will be discussed later as promised to the Koreans, but that doesn’t mean the US will ever allow it.

    “Also, it wouldn’t be surprising if Korea still kept U.S. cars out using nontariff regulatory barriers and the Uri Nara, buy Korean cheerleading that has worked well until now.”

    Sales of European and Japanese cars have exponentially increased every year - even non luxury makes. Why aren’t there any American makes doing even half as good? Is it all because of non tariff barriers?

  25. dogbertt your flag
    Posted April 3, 2007 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Sales of European and Japanese cars have exponentially increased every year - even non luxury makes.

    It’s true. Going from 1000 units sold one year to 2000 sold the next year is an exponential difference. Viva the free market!

  26. Wedge your flag
    Posted April 3, 2007 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    This should be called the MTA, as in managed trade agreement, because there’s very little free about it. And this whole us vs. them drama played out in the Korean press is completely ludicrous, as if keeping evil American rice out is actually good for uri nara.

    Newsflash: Keeping your markets protected is not good for you in the long run. You have the highest food prices in THE WORLD. This is not about giving it up to Uncle Sam, it’s about reaching the next level of economic development.

  27. michael your flag
    Posted April 3, 2007 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    The cup is nearly empty for Korea. It has the food prices of Switzerland without the Swiss income level. The chaebol families use the Uri Nara cheerleading to protect their market and the faux leftists here who have a knee-jerk reaction against anything involving the U.S. fall in line behind them in keeping the market closed.

    This agreement as Wedge said is about managed trade, not free trade.

  28. snow your flag
    Posted April 3, 2007 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    Since it appears that Korea got a good deal out of this, probably better than what the US got, it is a step in the right direction for Korea. Socialist isolationism will get them nowhere and even Roh knows this.

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