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		<title>By: ponta.</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/29/and-from-the-japanse-right/#comment-76305</link>
		<dc:creator>ponta.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abe is politically damn.

But it is surprising that Koreans have been turning a blind eye on their own problem while nitpicking JPM, leaving Korean comfort women during Korean War/around A town ignored, calling these women" western whores"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abe is politically damn.</p>
<p>But it is surprising that Koreans have been turning a blind eye on their own problem while nitpicking JPM, leaving Korean comfort women during Korean War/around A town ignored, calling these women&#8221; western whores&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: globalvillageidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/29/and-from-the-japanse-right/#comment-76296</link>
		<dc:creator>globalvillageidiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 03:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abe's comments are questionable at best and they don't help things.  Ageed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abe&#8217;s comments are questionable at best and they don&#8217;t help things.  Ageed.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 03:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>globalvillageidiot, yes Japan apologized.....but for what?

Japan apologized that many people of the nations in Asia suffered in WWII in part because of the actions of the Japanese.  There was no acknowledgement that the Japanese set up forced sexual slavery of Korean women to service Japanese soldiers.  None that I am aware of.  To be honest, I am not 100% on this and am open to acknowledge if it did happen.

When the Korean comfort women specifically WERE mentioned, the prime minister (the current one at that) said they were prostitutes.

So I still stand by what I said that as it relates to the comfort women: I have heard no apology for the specific installation by the Japanese of the sex slavery institution for the "amusement" of Japanese soldiers by innocent Korean girls who were NOT prostitutes.  And certainly Abe's comments don't help Japan's past claims of remorse that other countries suffered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>globalvillageidiot, yes Japan apologized&#8230;..but for what?</p>
<p>Japan apologized that many people of the nations in Asia suffered in WWII in part because of the actions of the Japanese.  There was no acknowledgement that the Japanese set up forced sexual slavery of Korean women to service Japanese soldiers.  None that I am aware of.  To be honest, I am not 100% on this and am open to acknowledge if it did happen.</p>
<p>When the Korean comfort women specifically WERE mentioned, the prime minister (the current one at that) said they were prostitutes.</p>
<p>So I still stand by what I said that as it relates to the comfort women: I have heard no apology for the specific installation by the Japanese of the sex slavery institution for the &#8220;amusement&#8221; of Japanese soldiers by innocent Korean girls who were NOT prostitutes.  And certainly Abe&#8217;s comments don&#8217;t help Japan&#8217;s past claims of remorse that other countries suffered.</p>
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		<title>By: globalvillageidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/29/and-from-the-japanse-right/#comment-76291</link>
		<dc:creator>globalvillageidiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"You cannot say Japan apologized when even the current Japanese prime minister calls these former comfort women “prostitutes."

They've apologized numerous times, and in addition to the fund you mentioned, made rather large reparation payments in 1965, if I'm not mistaken.  You might think the apologies or fund (s) were insufficient considering the severity of Japanese actions during the occupation but they did occur.

Does one politician's actions mean apologies never happened?  I don't care much for Abe's views on history (or at least how he plays politics with history) and I don't believe the Japanese have atoned for their mistakes as much as the Germans for theirs, but how can you say that they haven't apologized in the past.  It is a fact that they have.

Instead of seeking to deny or minimize the apologies that have been given, why not focus on the revisionism at hand?  I think Koreans and Chinese have good reason to question how history is being revised in Japan at the moment, but denying Japanese apologies - or worse, demanding apologies they are never intending to accept - makes them look insincere about the issue.

Again, I'm not denying the Japanese did terrible things during the occupation.  They did.  They have also not handled the past with their neighbors as well as they could/should have.  However, to claim they haven't apologized is also bad history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You cannot say Japan apologized when even the current Japanese prime minister calls these former comfort women “prostitutes.&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve apologized numerous times, and in addition to the fund you mentioned, made rather large reparation payments in 1965, if I&#8217;m not mistaken.  You might think the apologies or fund (s) were insufficient considering the severity of Japanese actions during the occupation but they did occur.</p>
<p>Does one politician&#8217;s actions mean apologies never happened?  I don&#8217;t care much for Abe&#8217;s views on history (or at least how he plays politics with history) and I don&#8217;t believe the Japanese have atoned for their mistakes as much as the Germans for theirs, but how can you say that they haven&#8217;t apologized in the past.  It is a fact that they have.</p>
<p>Instead of seeking to deny or minimize the apologies that have been given, why not focus on the revisionism at hand?  I think Koreans and Chinese have good reason to question how history is being revised in Japan at the moment, but denying Japanese apologies - or worse, demanding apologies they are never intending to accept - makes them look insincere about the issue.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not denying the Japanese did terrible things during the occupation.  They did.  They have also not handled the past with their neighbors as well as they could/should have.  However, to claim they haven&#8217;t apologized is also bad history.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ponta,

Among your many points that I disagree with, I will, at this time, only address two.

Japan said it was sorry that countries in Asia suffered in WWII.  That is not acknowledgement that it institutionalized sexual slavery of Korean and other women and forced them to have sex with Japanese soldiers.  And setting up a private fund was an insult to the former comfort women; many of them felt that to take money out of that fund is like taking money for a job well done.

What the Korean comfort women want is the Japanese prime minister to get in front of the entire Diet....and acknowledge that the government set up the system of sex slaves for the Japanese soldiers in Manchuria....and to pay restitution PUBLICLY and acknowledge that the money is being paid because Japan committed crimes against humanity against these Korean women.

You cannot say Japan apologized when even the current Japanese prime minister calls these former comfort women "prostitutes."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ponta,</p>
<p>Among your many points that I disagree with, I will, at this time, only address two.</p>
<p>Japan said it was sorry that countries in Asia suffered in WWII.  That is not acknowledgement that it institutionalized sexual slavery of Korean and other women and forced them to have sex with Japanese soldiers.  And setting up a private fund was an insult to the former comfort women; many of them felt that to take money out of that fund is like taking money for a job well done.</p>
<p>What the Korean comfort women want is the Japanese prime minister to get in front of the entire Diet&#8230;.and acknowledge that the government set up the system of sex slaves for the Japanese soldiers in Manchuria&#8230;.and to pay restitution PUBLICLY and acknowledge that the money is being paid because Japan committed crimes against humanity against these Korean women.</p>
<p>You cannot say Japan apologized when even the current Japanese prime minister calls these former comfort women &#8220;prostitutes.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ponta.</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponta.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 19:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ＪＫ
Thanks.

The historian I mentioned is Hata ikuo, who was one of the two historians the UN reporter called upon when she wrote the report. You might refer to the article by Japan times I linked. Hata and Yoshimi is two representative researcher on this issue.
The title of the book is "comfort women and sex at war zone"(there might be better translation)
The statistics is the yearly statistics by Korean 
government-general. 

I don't dismiss the testimonies of ex-comfort women as such. I just pointed out some of their testimonies are inconsistent.
And there is not eyewitness to prove Japanese military systematically kidnapped women to make them prostitutes.

Suppose 50 years later Korean prostitutes in the US testified she was kidnapped and made prostitutes. "The US government was involved"
Asked what kind of involvement,  she answers, "the government knew there was trafficking and the government was turning an blind eye on the brothels;besides, I was kidnapped by what looked like the US police, and I had to live miserable lives." Asked where she was working , she answer she was working at P, where there was no brothel. It is possible that painful experience distorted the memory. It is also possible she just misremember and there is still other possibilities.
There is four such testimonies out of 19 testimonies which were collected by the organization to support them. Other 15 testimonies were such that they were deceived by pimps. There are records the US police regulated illegal pimps. Should we conclude the US police systematically kidnapped Korean women to make them prostitutes though there in no other evidence to bake it up? Has the US  systematically issued working visa to divert the Korean labor force to make them  prostitutes in the US just because some people claims the US is a country that  "segregate" AA, that must have happened?


Note I am not saying the situation is the same. Japan army's involvement was much deeper. Japan licenced brokers, they transferred women, they set up the house for the brothels for Japanese soldiers and some women had to live unbearable lives under this system just as Korea registered comfort women, set up the brothels for the UN/US soldiers during Korean War and around A-town and some women lived unbearable lives. However you evaluate the testimonies, it is a fact such was the case.

Japan acknowledged it, apologized and set up the fund.

 

.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ＪＫ<br />
Thanks.</p>
<p>The historian I mentioned is Hata ikuo, who was one of the two historians the UN reporter called upon when she wrote the report. You might refer to the article by Japan times I linked. Hata and Yoshimi is two representative researcher on this issue.<br />
The title of the book is &#8220;comfort women and sex at war zone&#8221;(there might be better translation)<br />
The statistics is the yearly statistics by Korean<br />
government-general. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t dismiss the testimonies of ex-comfort women as such. I just pointed out some of their testimonies are inconsistent.<br />
And there is not eyewitness to prove Japanese military systematically kidnapped women to make them prostitutes.</p>
<p>Suppose 50 years later Korean prostitutes in the US testified she was kidnapped and made prostitutes. &#8220;The US government was involved&#8221;<br />
Asked what kind of involvement,  she answers, &#8220;the government knew there was trafficking and the government was turning an blind eye on the brothels;besides, I was kidnapped by what looked like the US police, and I had to live miserable lives.&#8221; Asked where she was working , she answer she was working at P, where there was no brothel. It is possible that painful experience distorted the memory. It is also possible she just misremember and there is still other possibilities.<br />
There is four such testimonies out of 19 testimonies which were collected by the organization to support them. Other 15 testimonies were such that they were deceived by pimps. There are records the US police regulated illegal pimps. Should we conclude the US police systematically kidnapped Korean women to make them prostitutes though there in no other evidence to bake it up? Has the US  systematically issued working visa to divert the Korean labor force to make them  prostitutes in the US just because some people claims the US is a country that  &#8220;segregate&#8221; AA, that must have happened?</p>
<p>Note I am not saying the situation is the same. Japan army&#8217;s involvement was much deeper. Japan licenced brokers, they transferred women, they set up the house for the brothels for Japanese soldiers and some women had to live unbearable lives under this system just as Korea registered comfort women, set up the brothels for the UN/US soldiers during Korean War and around A-town and some women lived unbearable lives. However you evaluate the testimonies, it is a fact such was the case.</p>
<p>Japan acknowledged it, apologized and set up the fund.</p>
<p>.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 17:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the source, ponta?  Please write it in English.  I hope it's not another right-wing Japanese source.

And why do you so easily accept sources by right-wing Japanese writers who weren't in Korea during the colonization and dismiss eyewitness accounts by Koreans of what they experienced under the Japanese?  You even dismiss claims by former Japanese soldiers of what they did to innocent Chinese and Korean women.  Please explain that. Wouldn't those KOrean and Japanese eyewitnesses know mroe about what happened than the writers of your sources who weren't even there??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the source, ponta?  Please write it in English.  I hope it&#8217;s not another right-wing Japanese source.</p>
<p>And why do you so easily accept sources by right-wing Japanese writers who weren&#8217;t in Korea during the colonization and dismiss eyewitness accounts by Koreans of what they experienced under the Japanese?  You even dismiss claims by former Japanese soldiers of what they did to innocent Chinese and Korean women.  Please explain that. Wouldn&#8217;t those KOrean and Japanese eyewitnesses know mroe about what happened than the writers of your sources who weren&#8217;t even there??</p>
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		<title>By: ponta.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found the statistics of the brokers of the official brothels(公娼）in Korea  by Korea governor-general's office.


the broker
year     1927  1931 1937 1941
Japanese  162   269  203  211
Korean   2598  2320 3097 3744
(page 40 慰安婦と戦場の性　秦郁彦）

This is the statistics of the licensed brokers, so I guess there were more private brokers.

Coupled with the argument I have given, I think it is not unreasonable to suppose that most of the brokers in Korea were Koreans.
Of course that does not change the fact Japan is mostly to blame, though.

BTW, when there is a law to the effect that woman 
would be mobilized to the factories, and there are 
records that women were in fact mobilized to the factory, the burden of proof that Japan diverted the labor required by the law is on the people who insist it.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found the statistics of the brokers of the official brothels(公娼）in Korea  by Korea governor-general&#8217;s office.</p>
<p>the broker<br />
year     1927  1931 1937 1941<br />
Japanese  162   269  203  211<br />
Korean   2598  2320 3097 3744<br />
(page 40 慰安婦と戦場の性　秦郁彦）</p>
<p>This is the statistics of the licensed brokers, so I guess there were more private brokers.</p>
<p>Coupled with the argument I have given, I think it is not unreasonable to suppose that most of the brokers in Korea were Koreans.<br />
Of course that does not change the fact Japan is mostly to blame, though.</p>
<p>BTW, when there is a law to the effect that woman<br />
would be mobilized to the factories, and there are<br />
records that women were in fact mobilized to the factory, the burden of proof that Japan diverted the labor required by the law is on the people who insist it.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 11:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"It is amazing how Ponta, with absolutely no proof, evidence, witness statements, or cites whatsoever, tries to discount the veracity of my own Grandmother’s experience."


Yes, Ponta once questioned my own family members' experiences in Japan-controlled Korea at occidentalism.  When I said that they were forced to speak Japanese outside their homes and take on Japanese names and were NOT pleased about this, he called my own family members "collaborators."  Amazing that he questions any eyewitness accounts by Koreans of what happened in Korea under Japan....yet doesn't question writings by Japanese right-wing historical revisionists if it supports what he already has decided must be right about Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is amazing how Ponta, with absolutely no proof, evidence, witness statements, or cites whatsoever, tries to discount the veracity of my own Grandmother’s experience.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, Ponta once questioned my own family members&#8217; experiences in Japan-controlled Korea at occidentalism.  When I said that they were forced to speak Japanese outside their homes and take on Japanese names and were NOT pleased about this, he called my own family members &#8220;collaborators.&#8221;  Amazing that he questions any eyewitness accounts by Koreans of what happened in Korea under Japan&#8230;.yet doesn&#8217;t question writings by Japanese right-wing historical revisionists if it supports what he already has decided must be right about Japan.</p>
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		<title>By: ponta.</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponta.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>, many parents made their daughter to avoid it
→many parents made their daughter marry to avoid it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>, many parents made their daughter to avoid it<br />
→many parents made their daughter marry to avoid it.</p>
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