Comments on: Dead deer sex http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/ Korea... in Blog Format Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:06:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: The Marmot’s Hole » Well, At Least the Corpse was Human http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-117822 The Marmot’s Hole » Well, At Least the Corpse was Human Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:39:33 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-117822 [...] is just sick… although I’m debating whether it’s as sick as the dude who had sex with a dead deer. (Oh, the news you learn from [...] [...] is just sick… although I’m debating whether it’s as sick as the dude who had sex with a dead deer. (Oh, the news you learn from [...]

]]> By: The Marmot’s Hole » Oh deer… http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75541 The Marmot’s Hole » Oh deer… Wed, 28 Mar 2007 05:54:09 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75541 [...] can’t figure out what’s more disturbing—a man humping a dead deer [Marmot’s Hole] or his lawyer quoting “The Princess Bride” in his motion to [...] [...] can’t figure out what’s more disturbing—a man humping a dead deer [Marmot’s Hole] or his lawyer quoting “The Princess Bride” in his motion to [...]

]]> By: Ledtim http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75537 Ledtim Wed, 28 Mar 2007 05:31:22 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75537 http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1116061deer1.html So he found a dead deer in a ditch. And decided to have sex with it. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/a.....deer1.html

So he found a dead deer in a ditch. And decided to have sex with it.

]]> By: H. Kim http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75472 H. Kim Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:44:54 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75472 <blockquote>We humans don’t ask their opinions on anything else we do with animals... </blockquote> I agree that consent cannot be an issue with regards to carrion. However, with regards to living animals, I don't think the issue is or was "consent" per se. In his case, it was inhumane treatment of an animal, as he did have a prior conciction for "felony mistreatment of an animal" for a horse he killed for the purpose of copulation. <blockquote>. But I just don’t see why it should be a crime, and why the Deer Humper™ goes on a list of sex offenders.</blockquote> Let's put it this way: While seemingly harmless, having sex with a dead deer or other carrion could become "gateways" for further and increasingly reprobate acts. Afterall, he's only getting probation and "evaluation as a sex offender" at a psychiatric facility, so it seems he's NOT being listed as a "sex offender" and appears to gotten off easily, no pun attended.

We humans don’t ask their opinions on anything else we do with animals…

I agree that consent cannot be an issue with regards to carrion. However, with regards to living animals, I don’t think the issue is or was “consent” per se. In his case, it was inhumane treatment of an animal, as he did have a prior conciction for “felony mistreatment of an animal” for a horse he killed for the purpose of copulation.

. But I just don’t see why it should be a crime, and why the Deer Humper™ goes on a list of sex offenders.

Let’s put it this way: While seemingly harmless, having sex with a dead deer or other carrion could become “gateways” for further and increasingly reprobate acts.

Afterall, he’s only getting probation and “evaluation as a sex offender” at a psychiatric facility, so it seems he’s NOT being listed as a “sex offender” and appears to gotten off easily, no pun attended.

]]> By: Brendon Carr http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75467 Brendon Carr Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:38:37 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75467 Consent is not, and cannot, be an issue when the matter concerns activity with a carcass. Dead animals cannot give consent for any activity, let alone sex with humans. Neither, for that matter, can living animals. But why should they have to? We humans <b>don't ask their opinions on anything else</b> we do with animals -- including marching them off to the slaughterhouse to be made into food, <i>delicious foooood</i> and fashion products, daubing makeup in their eyes, and making little dogs wear ridiculous sweaters. So let's let it alone that the act of sex with the carcass of an animal is "non-consensual". And I will agree that it's completely morally wrong, which is why I won't be inviting that guy over for supper. But I just don't see why it should be a crime, and why the Deer Humper™ goes on a list of sex offenders. Consent is not, and cannot, be an issue when the matter concerns activity with a carcass. Dead animals cannot give consent for any activity, let alone sex with humans. Neither, for that matter, can living animals. But why should they have to? We humans don’t ask their opinions on anything else we do with animals — including marching them off to the slaughterhouse to be made into food, delicious foooood and fashion products, daubing makeup in their eyes, and making little dogs wear ridiculous sweaters.

So let’s let it alone that the act of sex with the carcass of an animal is “non-consensual”. And I will agree that it’s completely morally wrong, which is why I won’t be inviting that guy over for supper. But I just don’t see why it should be a crime, and why the Deer Humper™ goes on a list of sex offenders.

]]> By: H. Kim http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75465 H. Kim Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:13:31 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75465 #20: <blockquote>What is the harm to me from that guy humping the dead deer over there in Wisconsin?</blockquote> I guess the same question could be raised for any non-consensual act of moral turpitude. #20 <blockquote>what is the harm to the citizens of Wisconsin?</blockquote> I think it's a public health issue. I mean, do we, as the residents of Wisconsin and elsewhere, really want that kinda person -- who's engaged in cross-species copulation/necrophilia -- to be in circulation? A person like that is not only endangering himself but also presents a clear and present danger to the public at large. The sooner we have him locked up, the better for everyone, including you. #20:

What is the harm to me from that guy humping the dead deer over there in Wisconsin?

I guess the same question could be raised for any non-consensual act of moral turpitude.

#20

what is the harm to the citizens of Wisconsin?

I think it’s a public health issue. I mean, do we, as the residents of Wisconsin and elsewhere, really want that kinda person — who’s engaged in cross-species copulation/necrophilia — to be in circulation?

A person like that is not only endangering himself but also presents a clear and present danger to the public at large. The sooner we have him locked up, the better for everyone, including you.

]]> By: Arghaeri http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75456 Arghaeri Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:17:22 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75456 "most probably under the understanding that it was a private and consensual act". Can it be consensual if one party is dead? “most probably under the understanding that it was a private and consensual act”.

Can it be consensual if one party is dead?

]]> By: littlebrownasian http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75455 littlebrownasian Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:18:07 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75455 Hmm...and it all started with a hamster... Hmm…and it all started with a hamster…

]]> By: Brendon Carr http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75448 Brendon Carr Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:51:47 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75448 At least from my libertarian perspective, we should be separating the <i>morality</i> of copulation with a dead animal from the <b>legality</b> of such act. I don't like it -- wouldn't do it, wouldn't want to hang around with anyone who does it -- but can't see the government interest in stopping others from doing it. I don't smoke, or eat shellfish. Should my preferences dictate what others may or may not do? If so, why? If not, why not? What makes my perspective any less valid or valuable than anyone else's? What is the harm to me from that guy humping the dead deer over there in Wisconsin? Except if he's doing it in the street or something, what is the harm to the citizens of Wisconsin? At least from my libertarian perspective, we should be separating the morality of copulation with a dead animal from the legality of such act. I don’t like it — wouldn’t do it, wouldn’t want to hang around with anyone who does it — but can’t see the government interest in stopping others from doing it. I don’t smoke, or eat shellfish. Should my preferences dictate what others may or may not do? If so, why? If not, why not? What makes my perspective any less valid or valuable than anyone else’s?

What is the harm to me from that guy humping the dead deer over there in Wisconsin? Except if he’s doing it in the street or something, what is the harm to the citizens of Wisconsin?

]]> By: James http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75433 James Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:12:26 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/22/dead-deer-sex/#comment-75433 [<a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/07/comment-moderation-policy-update-1/" rel="nofollow">DELETED. Reason: Off Topic.</a>] [DELETED. Reason: Off Topic.]

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