I’m pretty sure the Holy Roman Empire did hold all of current German territory at least for 100 years, if not more.”

WJK:

It was me who said that, and I am German, after all. You and Pawi sure have got a point.

I know that my statement was provocative - and it was meant to be provocative. My point, in the Korea-related context, was to make fun of the Korean obsession with their 5,000 year-long history.

As for the Holy Roman Empire, yes indeed, you are right, it comprised most of what constitutes modern Germany (+ Austria, Switzerland, Czechia, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Eastern France, Northern and Central Italy…). The official administrative language was Latin, while (medieval) German was used by the majority of the population for their day-to-day business.

So, yes, it is possible to regard the Holy Roman Empire as a precursor of the modern Federal Republic of Germany of today, but frankly, I have my doubts about this classification.

Moreover, the Empire went into decline as from the middle of the 1200s, effectively dying a protracted death over 550 years, until it was formally disbanded in 1806, at the request of Napoleon Bonaparte, who had crowned himself French emperor in 1804 and did not cherish the thought of there being another emperor on the same continent (Europe).

He did not feel quite as strongly about the existence of the Chinese or of the Japanese Emperor, since they were simply too far away from him to come into view…

won’t you elaborate, wkj? i’ve been wondering why the taiwanese would intentionally distort korean history.

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Now, they’ve been all sinicized.

This action by Taiwan is not totally unrelated to the Chaing Bai mountain incident in 2007.

It’s basically retaliation.

Word I hear is that (from playing dumb-dumb with my mainland Chinese peers) Kuo Min Tang Han Chinese actually now support a gradual ultimate subjugation towards mainland China. The minor tribes, however, who still hold some politcal sway in the current administration want the other way. An independent Taiwan, recognized as a separate state, just like it was before Nixon. Times change a lot of things. The Kuo Ming Tang wants to eventually crawl under the Communists.

Ultimately, we are all related to either Adam & Eve or a single-celled organism in a primordial soup.

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I’m pretty sure the Holy Roman Empire did hold all of current German territory at least for 100 years, if not more.

By your definition, then, Chinese history started when Han united China, then Chinese history stopped when Han fell. Right?

Then, there were more than enough breaks when the Hans were split amongst not only themselves, but were contending with the Khitans, Mongols, Manchus for at least 500 years totaled together, and straight up subjugation under the Mongols and Khitans for a total of at least 500 years.

Han Chinese should be more honest about their history intead of stealing some other nations’ history, and calling it theirs by using mass numbers.

Japanese history. It started when Toyotomi Hideyoshi united Japan around 1500. Has to be, right?

Before that and after that, Japan surely was of constant internal war. Can’t deny it. How can you argue they even spoke the same language amongst themselves? If they even considered themselves the same kind? Certianly Hokaido and Okinawa thought of themselves as totally separate and having nothing to do with the Honshu residents. Why else would the Emperor of Japan promise the Okinawans citzenships to the Empire around 1850? And of Hokaido and Sakhalin Ainus? This is why I try to understand Japan. Gotta know your enemy pretty well. Credit that to Han Chinese, Sun Tzu. If I bother you, because I speak totally straight up truth,

Ask why Taiwan tried to pull this cute little, “Korean history started with Unified Shilla.”

Okay, Pawi, you’ve got a point here.