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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s OK&#8230; I hate boy-bands, too</title>
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		<title>By: mins0306</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/10/its-ok-i-hate-boy-bands-too/#comment-74000</link>
		<dc:creator>mins0306</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering the fact that two of Shinhwa members are Korean American, that their songs are a ridiculous mix of Korean and English, and that the audience are hard core KWP loyalists, I won't be surprised if Shinhwa helped prove to the KWP that the US is 'corrupting' the 'pure' and 'sacred' Korean culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the fact that two of Shinhwa members are Korean American, that their songs are a ridiculous mix of Korean and English, and that the audience are hard core KWP loyalists, I won&#8217;t be surprised if Shinhwa helped prove to the KWP that the US is &#8216;corrupting&#8217; the &#8216;pure&#8217; and &#8217;sacred&#8217; Korean culture.</p>
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		<title>By: sanshinseon</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/10/its-ok-i-hate-boy-bands-too/#comment-73938</link>
		<dc:creator>sanshinseon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, Schlotzkeys had the most delicious sandwitches, i dug them deeply at Jonggak-yeok when i worked downtown.  But they had no clue how to sell to the K-bizman lunch crowd, and folded...  :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, Schlotzkeys had the most delicious sandwitches, i dug them deeply at Jonggak-yeok when i worked downtown.  But they had no clue how to sell to the K-bizman lunch crowd, and folded&#8230;  <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: captbbq</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/10/its-ok-i-hate-boy-bands-too/#comment-73930</link>
		<dc:creator>captbbq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, thank you very much Robert for posting that (the the reader who sent it). It's new to me and I have to say, never have I imagined watching one of these boy bands would be so entertaining!

On a more disturbing note, no matter how much I hear South Koreans proclaiming those in the North  to be their brothers, they obviously can't market towards them very well at all, and I'm not just going  off this video. In fact, I'm quite certain I could do a better job. They've been lieing to themselves about the North for too long.

This is just as bad as other foreign companies who failed to understand the South Korean market or hire a good Korean marketing consultant first, before coming here (Schlotzkeys comes to mind).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, thank you very much Robert for posting that (the the reader who sent it). It&#8217;s new to me and I have to say, never have I imagined watching one of these boy bands would be so entertaining!</p>
<p>On a more disturbing note, no matter how much I hear South Koreans proclaiming those in the North  to be their brothers, they obviously can&#8217;t market towards them very well at all, and I&#8217;m not just going  off this video. In fact, I&#8217;m quite certain I could do a better job. They&#8217;ve been lieing to themselves about the North for too long.</p>
<p>This is just as bad as other foreign companies who failed to understand the South Korean market or hire a good Korean marketing consultant first, before coming here (Schlotzkeys comes to mind).</p>
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		<title>By: terrible dan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/10/its-ok-i-hate-boy-bands-too/#comment-73917</link>
		<dc:creator>terrible dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, it doesn't surprise me all that much that an audience composed mainly of middle-aged men wasn't rocking out in their seats, but the perturbed look on the girls' faces does say a lot about Shinhwa's market appeal up North. As for whether the Northerners didn't like it because it was too far from "traditional" Korea, my opinion  is that culture is still in the process of being created- and South Korea certainly has a unique pop sensibility. When I think of things in Korea that give me the warm fuzzies, one of them is the sound of upbeat K-pop at eardrum-shredding volume...I also think "YMCA" by the Village People would SLAY in the North.

Also, for the sake of transparency, I should mention that the moment I heard the Shinhwa song I recognized it, and remembered some of the lyrics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, it doesn&#8217;t surprise me all that much that an audience composed mainly of middle-aged men wasn&#8217;t rocking out in their seats, but the perturbed look on the girls&#8217; faces does say a lot about Shinhwa&#8217;s market appeal up North. As for whether the Northerners didn&#8217;t like it because it was too far from &#8220;traditional&#8221; Korea, my opinion  is that culture is still in the process of being created- and South Korea certainly has a unique pop sensibility. When I think of things in Korea that give me the warm fuzzies, one of them is the sound of upbeat K-pop at eardrum-shredding volume&#8230;I also think &#8220;YMCA&#8221; by the Village People would SLAY in the North.</p>
<p>Also, for the sake of transparency, I should mention that the moment I heard the Shinhwa song I recognized it, and remembered some of the lyrics.</p>
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		<title>By: seouldout</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/10/its-ok-i-hate-boy-bands-too/#comment-73915</link>
		<dc:creator>seouldout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One must consider that one driving tenet of North Korea’s cultural legitimacy is that the North considers itself the true cultural representation of what it is to be Korean...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All those years of accordion lessons and I never knew it was a traditional Korean instrument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>One must consider that one driving tenet of North Korea’s cultural legitimacy is that the North considers itself the true cultural representation of what it is to be Korean&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>All those years of accordion lessons and I never knew it was a traditional Korean instrument.</p>
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		<title>By: dokdoforever</title>
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		<dc:creator>dokdoforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 04:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing crowd reaction.  It's as if we sent Van Halen in a time machine back to the 1800s, ala Back To The Future.  Next time, let's ask Marilyn Manson to perform in Pyongyang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing crowd reaction.  It&#8217;s as if we sent Van Halen in a time machine back to the 1800s, ala Back To The Future.  Next time, let&#8217;s ask Marilyn Manson to perform in Pyongyang.</p>
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		<title>By: agadan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/10/its-ok-i-hate-boy-bands-too/#comment-73894</link>
		<dc:creator>agadan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 03:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a wonderful video if only for the surreality of it all. As an aside, I wonder if Eric (the American) asked permission to go to Pyeongyang from the US government. If not, won't the State Dept. have something to say about this. As I understand it, it's illegal for Americans to go to NK without specific permission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a wonderful video if only for the surreality of it all. As an aside, I wonder if Eric (the American) asked permission to go to Pyeongyang from the US government. If not, won&#8217;t the State Dept. have something to say about this. As I understand it, it&#8217;s illegal for Americans to go to NK without specific permission.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/10/its-ok-i-hate-boy-bands-too/#comment-73892</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 03:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One must consider that one driving tenet of North Korea's cultural legitimacy is that the North considers itself the true cultural representation of what it is to be Korean, thus they are very reluctant to embrace any such South Korean music since it would considered tainted by Western influences, much the same way certain Party-sponsored students &lt;strike&gt;stooges&lt;/strike&gt; criticized Christmas celebrations in China as being "non-Chinese".  Naturally, the on-line Chinese community largely rejected this party-sponsored stance as being unrealistic and no fun.  "Iceberg" may have a good point since people like to have fun, no matter where they live.

My commentary may not be completely correct but I would bet I'm fairly close to some thinking that one finds up north.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One must consider that one driving tenet of North Korea&#8217;s cultural legitimacy is that the North considers itself the true cultural representation of what it is to be Korean, thus they are very reluctant to embrace any such South Korean music since it would considered tainted by Western influences, much the same way certain Party-sponsored students <strike>stooges</strike> criticized Christmas celebrations in China as being &#8220;non-Chinese&#8221;.  Naturally, the on-line Chinese community largely rejected this party-sponsored stance as being unrealistic and no fun.  &#8220;Iceberg&#8221; may have a good point since people like to have fun, no matter where they live.</p>
<p>My commentary may not be completely correct but I would bet I&#8217;m fairly close to some thinking that one finds up north.</p>
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		<title>By: Iceberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iceberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, those women were eating it up.  Pause the video with eleven seconds remaining to see a good summary of how much they liked it.  That's exactly the look that I have when I see these boy-bands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, those women were eating it up.  Pause the video with eleven seconds remaining to see a good summary of how much they liked it.  That&#8217;s exactly the look that I have when I see these boy-bands.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think they didn't like it, I think it was more like, 

What is that?

All women like boybands.  I bet the women liked it, except they were reluctant to show emotion.

So, did the North Korean men start howling when Hyori had her turn?  Probably the same stone faced reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think they didn&#8217;t like it, I think it was more like, </p>
<p>What is that?</p>
<p>All women like boybands.  I bet the women liked it, except they were reluctant to show emotion.</p>
<p>So, did the North Korean men start howling when Hyori had her turn?  Probably the same stone faced reaction.</p>
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