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		<title>By: The Marmot&#8217;s Hole &#187; Calls for gentler, kindler blogosphere: NYT</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/05/new-comment-section-sheriff-in-town/#comment-77219</link>
		<dc:creator>The Marmot&#8217;s Hole &#187; Calls for gentler, kindler blogosphere: NYT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are calling for civil rules of engagement (HT to DPRK Studies). This is an issue we&#8217;ve attempted to deal with [Marmot&#8217;s Hole], although some are apparently still dissatisfied [Have a Nice Day in Seoul!] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are calling for civil rules of engagement (HT to DPRK Studies). This is an issue we&#8217;ve attempted to deal with [Marmot&#8217;s Hole], although some are apparently still dissatisfied [Have a Nice Day in Seoul!] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Pan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/05/new-comment-section-sheriff-in-town/#comment-75437</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Pan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, fair enough.  Thanks for the quick response!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, fair enough.  Thanks for the quick response!</p>
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		<title>By: oranckay</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/05/new-comment-section-sheriff-in-town/#comment-75436</link>
		<dc:creator>oranckay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Pan -

As noted, the comment section to the post in question is not closed permanently. It was closed temporarily, and it was closed temporarily shortly after your comment because I was authoring my "moderator comment" at the same time you wrote your comment. 

Hopefully, more appropriate discussion may continue when comment section for that post is reopened. 

I am generally going to make a point of not giving clarification, but as I've written here and there (on Marmot's) on the subject, untangling long off topic tit-for-tat arguments and games of who-called-who-what-first is just too much work  to do unpaid and it probably not possible anyway, and furthermore it is expected that there will be collateral damage. That is, people who do nothing but contribute to healthy discussion will also fall victim to moderation actions, and if I/we take action like this from time to time it is going to be because of overall tone, not because of a single individual or comment, because that would be simple: we'd just delete. We're sorry (really) but for now the social atmosphere is more important than individual justice, so please don't take anything personally. Hopefully when we open the thread again you will have already set things in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Pan -</p>
<p>As noted, the comment section to the post in question is not closed permanently. It was closed temporarily, and it was closed temporarily shortly after your comment because I was authoring my &#8220;moderator comment&#8221; at the same time you wrote your comment. </p>
<p>Hopefully, more appropriate discussion may continue when comment section for that post is reopened. </p>
<p>I am generally going to make a point of not giving clarification, but as I&#8217;ve written here and there (on Marmot&#8217;s) on the subject, untangling long off topic tit-for-tat arguments and games of who-called-who-what-first is just too much work  to do unpaid and it probably not possible anyway, and furthermore it is expected that there will be collateral damage. That is, people who do nothing but contribute to healthy discussion will also fall victim to moderation actions, and if I/we take action like this from time to time it is going to be because of overall tone, not because of a single individual or comment, because that would be simple: we&#8217;d just delete. We&#8217;re sorry (really) but for now the social atmosphere is more important than individual justice, so please don&#8217;t take anything personally. Hopefully when we open the thread again you will have already set things in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Pan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/05/new-comment-section-sheriff-in-town/#comment-75435</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Pan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oranckay, I would like to ask if I was off-topic or perhaps at all involved in the decision to close comments on &lt;a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/26/parents-sold-their-daughters-abe-aide/#comment-75429" rel="nofollow"&gt;this thread.&lt;/a&gt;  I don't think I was, but since the thread was closed only a few moments after I posted a comment, I have to wonder.

I'm not going to protest either way, I just would like some clarification so I can better know how much to say in comments, and where it needs to be turned into it's own post on my own blog.

PP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oranckay, I would like to ask if I was off-topic or perhaps at all involved in the decision to close comments on <a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/26/parents-sold-their-daughters-abe-aide/#comment-75429" rel="nofollow">this thread.</a>  I don&#8217;t think I was, but since the thread was closed only a few moments after I posted a comment, I have to wonder.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to protest either way, I just would like some clarification so I can better know how much to say in comments, and where it needs to be turned into it&#8217;s own post on my own blog.</p>
<p>PP</p>
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		<title>By: oranckay</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/05/new-comment-section-sheriff-in-town/#comment-75038</link>
		<dc:creator>oranckay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello shakuhachi,

Thank you for your concerns and ideas. I've given this a little thought. And while I wouldn't mind corresponding with _you_, I think I need to make a policy of not pussing myself in a position where I (and other future moderators) are asked to defend decisions or face "why me and not him" types of questions, because I'd feel bad for not responding and people might be offended when they don't get answers. 

One way to keep oneself out of that kind of trouble is to be avoid being contactable by email. It would be nice and maybe even helpful for people to be able to "flag" inappropriate comments but opening up a user hotline is not the answer, since I already lead several lives already. However, I'm going to be posting an email address anyway: guessthispart@fastmail.jp. I use this _only_ to log in to MSN Messenger and don't check the inbox. As a matter of fact I think I have it set so all mail is rejected. 

I use this address to let people get a piece of me online, in realtime, as if to stop me for a minute in the hallway. I use this email address for the same purpose at another forum (one about frame design for mamachari, if you can believe that) and it has served me well by making sure that conversations either happen or they don't, and there are not piles "work" left for me that I would never get to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello shakuhachi,</p>
<p>Thank you for your concerns and ideas. I&#8217;ve given this a little thought. And while I wouldn&#8217;t mind corresponding with _you_, I think I need to make a policy of not pussing myself in a position where I (and other future moderators) are asked to defend decisions or face &#8220;why me and not him&#8221; types of questions, because I&#8217;d feel bad for not responding and people might be offended when they don&#8217;t get answers. </p>
<p>One way to keep oneself out of that kind of trouble is to be avoid being contactable by email. It would be nice and maybe even helpful for people to be able to &#8220;flag&#8221; inappropriate comments but opening up a user hotline is not the answer, since I already lead several lives already. However, I&#8217;m going to be posting an email address anyway: <a href="mailto:guessthispart@fastmail.jp">guessthispart@fastmail.jp</a>. I use this _only_ to log in to MSN Messenger and don&#8217;t check the inbox. As a matter of fact I think I have it set so all mail is rejected. </p>
<p>I use this address to let people get a piece of me online, in realtime, as if to stop me for a minute in the hallway. I use this email address for the same purpose at another forum (one about frame design for mamachari, if you can believe that) and it has served me well by making sure that conversations either happen or they don&#8217;t, and there are not piles &#8220;work&#8221; left for me that I would never get to.</p>
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		<title>By: shakuhachi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/05/new-comment-section-sheriff-in-town/#comment-74929</link>
		<dc:creator>shakuhachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oranckay, could you send me your email address? Mine is occidentalism@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oranckay, could you send me your email address? Mine is <a href="mailto:occidentalism@gmail.com">occidentalism@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: lucia</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/05/new-comment-section-sheriff-in-town/#comment-74856</link>
		<dc:creator>lucia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for this new policy on comments section. Maybe I will comment more often after that. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for this new policy on comments section. Maybe I will comment more often after that. <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Arghaeri</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/05/new-comment-section-sheriff-in-town/#comment-73833</link>
		<dc:creator>Arghaeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 06:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>122&#62; smart-alecky, irreverant, but surely not off topic! It highlights the concern that this place will become too highbrow &#38; ultimately boring.

Even if you get 100% of UN Secratary Generals interested it only increase the readership by 1. Meanwhile the existing readership....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>122&gt; smart-alecky, irreverant, but surely not off topic! It highlights the concern that this place will become too highbrow &amp; ultimately boring.</p>
<p>Even if you get 100% of UN Secratary Generals interested it only increase the readership by 1. Meanwhile the existing readership&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: dlatn</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/05/new-comment-section-sheriff-in-town/#comment-73688</link>
		<dc:creator>dlatn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[&lt;a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/07/comment-moderation-policy-update-1/" rel="nofollow"&gt;DELETED. Reason: Off Topic, Inappropriate Language&lt;/a&gt;]

&lt;strike&gt;no, you cunts asked for it...






and whitey gave it to you in spsdes


eat it up&lt;/strike&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[<a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/07/comment-moderation-policy-update-1/" rel="nofollow">DELETED. Reason: Off Topic, Inappropriate Language</a>]</p>
<p><strike>no, you cunts asked for it&#8230;</p>
<p>and whitey gave it to you in spsdes</p>
<p>eat it up</strike></p>
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		<title>By: sewing</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/05/new-comment-section-sheriff-in-town/#comment-73680</link>
		<dc:creator>sewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, shouldn't there be a policy against excessively smart-alecky comments as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, shouldn&#8217;t there be a policy against excessively smart-alecky comments as well?</p>
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