Oh, btw, I almost this is probably they don’t like guys (from the previous link):

“There was one group on the base treated well: the canines. “The drill
instructors’ dogs were given food that was supposed to be ours,” Mr. Jung
says. “The superiors didn’t even inform me when my father died; but when
a dog died we had to conduct a ceremony and bow in front of a shrine to
it.” In fact, as a team leader, Mr. Jang kept a dog. Once he tied one of
his trainees to a dog’s house for a week because the hungry man had taken some of the dog’s food.”

I’ve seen some of their h2h combat demos. They’re really tough guys.

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/rok/hid.htm

“Headquarters Intelligence Detachment: “The military unit from hell”"

“Unsurprisingly, attempts at self-mutilation or suicide were made. Mr.
Kim remembers how another mate, Min Byung-jin, pierced his own eye with a
nail when he could no longer bear the conditions. And in the early days a
senior agent told him about a trainee who jumped off a 150-meter cliff
during a mountain march — according to the story, as he jumped, he cried
out: “Bastards, live well! I’m going!” As it turns out, the story has
been confirmed; the man was named Lee Hyo-jong, and the suicide took
place in May 1973.”

“If you survived the training, dangerous missions awaited you. Mr. Kim
recalls a mission that took place inside the Demilitarized Zone and near
the Imjin River in April 1984, when a team member, Jang Young-gook, got
blown up by a mine.”

“”With my own hands I had to clean up areas that were plastered
with the beating victims’ flesh and blood,”"

“He says his head would feel like bubble gum after he took a beating: “Your scalp
is so soft that you can stick your finger in and make a dent. Your hair
just falls out.”"

“Indeed, Mr. Jang and Mr. Jung haven’t fared well since leaving the
army unit. Both have trouble dealing with people, and bounce from job to
job, many of them menial labor. Mr. Jang is married, Mr. Jung is not.
“The problem is that we were made to forget everything that has meaning
in society,” Mr. Jang explains. “We were made to be beasts ready to bite
anyone. There is no law for us. If we don’t like something we use our
fists first.”"

Sad, but true. Same with things like chopping off fingers. Regardless of the issue, or who may be in the right, these are the images that stick with people.

Anyway, I’ve always had the impression that protests here are more about “me” - the protesters - than actually trying to win over the audience.

I was going to ask why thinking that collaborators are dogs doesn’t make the HID “far left”, but then I clicked on the HID link. Didn’t expect to be able to read the Korean, but I was interested to see the picture showing the mass demonstration with the giant flags of US and ROK together. So — I guess that’s what makes the HID “far right”(?)

Gets pretty confusing, trying to keep track of Korean internal politics without a scorecard. And how about the Taft-Katsure agreement? Does the HID see fit to provide Theodore Roosevelt and his Secretary of War William Howard Taft with their own labeled heads?

After getting some grief from the girlie over my book referring to Koreans eating dogs (in an unfavorable way so she says), it made me squeal like a child getting a peak into the cookie jar when I read……

They have a dog in the fight.

Actually, it would be ‘Le Cirque des têtes de chiens’.