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		<title>By: gordsellar</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/21/enough-of-this-crap/#comment-71998</link>
		<dc:creator>gordsellar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it was a little discomfiting. As if just shrugging your shoulders, or being internationally misanthropic, or other reactions natural to me are just inconceivable. I still took the test, though. I think 84% is a little high, and the text accompanying that result was laden with the kind of attitude you mention: something about having 'em all figured out, which I'm farther from believing now than ever before!

That's one thing about these online quizzes and gags I see about Korea. They're usually so, I don't know, persistently disdainful, and it's a drag. It's like grumpy expat 2.0 stopped holding boring bitchfest/bullshit-about-them parties and went online. Or maybe it's the same bunch, and they're just older, less connected, and lonely but still here and bitching by bandwidth instead? I dunno.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it was a little discomfiting. As if just shrugging your shoulders, or being internationally misanthropic, or other reactions natural to me are just inconceivable. I still took the test, though. I think 84% is a little high, and the text accompanying that result was laden with the kind of attitude you mention: something about having &#8216;em all figured out, which I&#8217;m farther from believing now than ever before!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s one thing about these online quizzes and gags I see about Korea. They&#8217;re usually so, I don&#8217;t know, persistently disdainful, and it&#8217;s a drag. It&#8217;s like grumpy expat 2.0 stopped holding boring bitchfest/bullshit-about-them parties and went online. Or maybe it&#8217;s the same bunch, and they&#8217;re just older, less connected, and lonely but still here and bitching by bandwidth instead? I dunno.</p>
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		<title>By: sanshinseon</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/21/enough-of-this-crap/#comment-71872</link>
		<dc:creator>sanshinseon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, sewing, i'm sure with you on that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, sewing, i&#8217;m sure with you on that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sewing</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/21/enough-of-this-crap/#comment-71666</link>
		<dc:creator>sewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sanshinseon, gbnhj:

It was silly of me to write what I wrote about that quiz, although I did find it somewhat amusing.  I certainly couldn't reduce my own interactions with Koreans to such simple stereotypes.  I must admit, however, that I do see traces of my own evolution from a certain naïve romanticism to a more clear-eyed realism, but I certainly don't share that kind of embittered cynicism that the quiz's author implicitly considers virtuous.  And I still grow teary-eyed when I think of all the beautiful, ancient, pine-clad mountain temples I have visited in Korea (but perhaps the tears are partly because of the steep climbs involved).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanshinseon, gbnhj:</p>
<p>It was silly of me to write what I wrote about that quiz, although I did find it somewhat amusing.  I certainly couldn&#8217;t reduce my own interactions with Koreans to such simple stereotypes.  I must admit, however, that I do see traces of my own evolution from a certain naïve romanticism to a more clear-eyed realism, but I certainly don&#8217;t share that kind of embittered cynicism that the quiz&#8217;s author implicitly considers virtuous.  And I still grow teary-eyed when I think of all the beautiful, ancient, pine-clad mountain temples I have visited in Korea (but perhaps the tears are partly because of the steep climbs involved).</p>
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		<title>By: gbnhj</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/21/enough-of-this-crap/#comment-71595</link>
		<dc:creator>gbnhj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was my take on it, too, sanshinseon - it was sometimes funny, but its author seems to head down paths of frustration or negativity that are typically travelled on only by those who are new to the country, don't know how to react, or simply don't feel comfortable living here.

For example, #3 doesn't offer the choice of 'doing nothing, even though you know that it's not unique to Korea, simply because little is really gained from doing anything, although something could be lost'. However, for someone who wishes to avoid arguement or ill-feeling, or possibly losing money through lost contacts, this is really the choice to make.

While not suggesting anyone pander to ignorance, I don't see the point in becoming 'that guy who's really up on his seasonal weather, and who's a bit of an ass about it'. As sanshinseon mentioned, there's really nothing positive about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was my take on it, too, sanshinseon - it was sometimes funny, but its author seems to head down paths of frustration or negativity that are typically travelled on only by those who are new to the country, don&#8217;t know how to react, or simply don&#8217;t feel comfortable living here.</p>
<p>For example, #3 doesn&#8217;t offer the choice of &#8216;doing nothing, even though you know that it&#8217;s not unique to Korea, simply because little is really gained from doing anything, although something could be lost&#8217;. However, for someone who wishes to avoid arguement or ill-feeling, or possibly losing money through lost contacts, this is really the choice to make.</p>
<p>While not suggesting anyone pander to ignorance, I don&#8217;t see the point in becoming &#8216;that guy who&#8217;s really up on his seasonal weather, and who&#8217;s a bit of an ass about it&#8217;. As sanshinseon mentioned, there&#8217;s really nothing positive about it.</p>
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		<title>By: sanshinseon</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/21/enough-of-this-crap/#comment-71565</link>
		<dc:creator>sanshinseon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 06:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quiz was kinda funny.  It has a limited range of possible non-Korean reactions to Korea; half the time my own reaction wasn't on there.  Certain ridicule-points are way over-used, some of the premises are way-exaggerated.  Cynical with no balancing warmth or positive perspective; "just a joke" but gets unfunny halfway through.  Reads like it was written by someone who really despises the nation and its people, like Gerry Beavers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quiz was kinda funny.  It has a limited range of possible non-Korean reactions to Korea; half the time my own reaction wasn&#8217;t on there.  Certain ridicule-points are way over-used, some of the premises are way-exaggerated.  Cynical with no balancing warmth or positive perspective; &#8220;just a joke&#8221; but gets unfunny halfway through.  Reads like it was written by someone who really despises the nation and its people, like Gerry Beavers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wedge</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/21/enough-of-this-crap/#comment-71537</link>
		<dc:creator>Wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26: Performance art? That's it, there isn't supposed to be any meaning. It's a collage of pointless phrases.

Reminds of the time in college when a guy claimed he had discovered the meaning to the lyrics in Yes tunes. "Dude, you really have to stop dropping acid."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26: Performance art? That&#8217;s it, there isn&#8217;t supposed to be any meaning. It&#8217;s a collage of pointless phrases.</p>
<p>Reminds of the time in college when a guy claimed he had discovered the meaning to the lyrics in Yes tunes. &#8220;Dude, you really have to stop dropping acid.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sewing</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/21/enough-of-this-crap/#comment-71515</link>
		<dc:creator>sewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just thinking the same thing as caliboy888, per jd's comment # 10.

By the way, Woody, that quiz is so funny!  It's got the whole range of possible non-Korean reactions to Korea.  Wow.  Everything from dewy-eyed romanticism, to pining for a unified nation, to head-scratching bewilderment, to clear-headed cynicism, and everything in between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just thinking the same thing as caliboy888, per jd&#8217;s comment # 10.</p>
<p>By the way, Woody, that quiz is so funny!  It&#8217;s got the whole range of possible non-Korean reactions to Korea.  Wow.  Everything from dewy-eyed romanticism, to pining for a unified nation, to head-scratching bewilderment, to clear-headed cynicism, and everything in between.</p>
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		<title>By: caliboy888</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/21/enough-of-this-crap/#comment-71514</link>
		<dc:creator>caliboy888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this is really a piece of performance art. It's kinda like a Jackson Pollock with words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this is really a piece of performance art. It&#8217;s kinda like a Jackson Pollock with words.</p>
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		<title>By: sewing</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/21/enough-of-this-crap/#comment-71512</link>
		<dc:creator>sewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antti (17): Oranckay is going for the minimalist approach.  His blog is profound in its utter simplicity!  That, or it's a picture of a polar bear in a snowstorm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antti (17): Oranckay is going for the minimalist approach.  His blog is profound in its utter simplicity!  That, or it&#8217;s a picture of a polar bear in a snowstorm.</p>
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		<title>By: bluejives</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/21/enough-of-this-crap/#comment-71506</link>
		<dc:creator>bluejives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;He does have that Nick Nolte mug shot thing going on.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, he looks like a washed-up version of Will Ferrell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>He does have that Nick Nolte mug shot thing going on.</i></p>
<p>Actually, he looks like a washed-up version of Will Ferrell.</p>
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